Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest

Marlin · Feb 19, 2019

Oshha said:
[] [SEC/MAIN] Build New Shrine = (Target)
S: -2 Temp Econ, +1 Shrine (+1 Mystic per 3 Shrines),
M: -4 Temp Econ, +2 Shrines (+1 Mystic per 3 Shrines),
-Possible Targets: Greenbay (3/3), Rockbay (1/1), Sunrise Bay (1/1)

What would happen if we kept building shrines without a settlement to put them in? For example... Greenbay (12/3).

And then if we built settlements, would the settlement be built around the shrine, or a fair distance away?

Oshha · Feb 19, 2019

Marlin said:
What would happen if we kept building shrines without a settlement? For example... Greenbay (12/3).

That is one of those things you will need to do first before you find out the effects of doing it.

thefoolswriter · Feb 19, 2019

I know what will happen are goodness's will get

looseanon · Feb 19, 2019

Oshha said:
A few of the tribes took some of the Merntir with them when they fled east and Cerwyn is leading a band of Cateyes in pursuit, either to get their People back or to avenge them if they cannot.

Arthwyn will remember this...

Marlin · Feb 19, 2019

Oshha said:
That is one of those things you will need to do first before you find out the effects of doing it.

That actually might be worth doing. If only to have the goddesses power right in the face of those who scout the Arthwyd out.

Cultural goddess faith spread through observation of religous shrines maybe?

Kiba · Feb 19, 2019

jjffjhjf said:
Oh man, that's so much stuff that doesn't get us that coveted 3rd action. If we can just get that 3rd action going for us, we'd be in so much better of a situation.

Is there a way to increase our action economy without increasing workload on the QM?

E: I supposed integrating wall building and trails into establishing a new village is effectively increasing our action economy.

Marlin · Feb 19, 2019

~~Are we scheduled for a Golden Age soon?~~

Edit: Nevermind, that's a stupid question.

jjffjhjf · Feb 19, 2019

Kiba said:
Is there a way to increase our action economy without increasing workload on the QM?

QM has mentioned the potential to make any new settlement start with Shrines/Palisades/Trails. That would significantly improve action economy. It has the significant drawback of being limited to those things, so its not nearly as good, but well... The better is the enemy of the good and all. We don't know how to actually make that happen, but ensuring all of our current settlements have those things, and then building any new settlement with a shrine/palisade/trail, with the remaining two done the next turn, and that happening with every new settlement for a generation or two, might do it.

Getting new tech/discoveries also has the potential to help in this way, as with our more farming action, it now gives us +2 temp econ as opposed to the +1 it used to give, making it a more efficient task.

Further policies are apparently a thing that exist within the QM's system. Though we've not yet unlocked those. They apparently act as a kind of background action, that consistently takes resources away, but do things like continued mega-project support without us spending actions on it, though whether that would be something that increased QM's workload significantly or not I'm unsure.

I'm not aware of anything else we could do to improve our action economy beyond the basic 2 province system. Its possible some other combination of things would allow for merging of actions via repeated use. Such as, recruiting more sacred warriors and venerating the goddesses together multiple times or the like. Things that have the narrative potential for the People to decide they go together, and thereby merging them as an action in a similar way the shrines/palisades/trails could theoretically be merged with the settlement action. Though any such action type would likely have the costs of both actions combined. With all 3 infrastructure types being added to each settlement at once, that would significantly increase the cost of the action, but doing it alongside a more farming action might be viable? Certainly any such merging of action types would improve our action economy greatly. We'd likely have to do so by repeating the same combination of actions multiple times, though, not necessarily in a row. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part outside the idea of infrastructure being added to the settlement action.

Oshha · Feb 19, 2019

Vote is closed.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 199 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4956-5074]
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Task: Epic
[X][Epic] One of the priests proves to be naturally talented with the numbers and records. (Gain an Admin Hero)
No. of Votes: 20
[X][Epic] A genius rises amongst the People, outshine their peers with their intelligence. (Tech Hero)
No. of Votes: 18

taovkool
Alessandro1988
Bookreader
Decado
demonthese2211
DkArthas
Genji
jjffjhjf
Knight Draco
Legion0047
NúmenoreanNazgûl
pttpttrwttr
PurposefulZephyr
Random Member
Raptor580
Redciv3
sunrise
Wentley

[X][Epic] A young member of the People proves themselves to be charming and uniting. (Diplo Hero)
No. of Votes: 14

Raichu1972
Alessandro1988
Bookreader
Brogatar
Cariyaga
jamie96969
Knight Draco
LonelyWolf999
mrsean22
nkd1325
Pyre
Somebodynobody10
Star
Vocalend

[X][Epic] One of the People proves themselves to be an excellent crafter and storyteller. (Culture Hero)
No. of Votes: 10

Monk Penguin
065tdsa
buli-buli
Hallesworth49
Noxious
NúmenoreanNazgûl
One Autumn Leaf
Pyre
Random Member
Vocalend

[X][Epic] One of the priests proves themselves to be skilled with the teachings and magics of the goddesses. (Mystic Hero)
No. of Votes: 7

veekie
Citino
demonthese2211
DkArthas
Killer_Whale
Rockeye
wingstrike96

[X][Epic] Get a Heroic Heir to succeed Gwynlyn when she dies. (Get a Heroic Heir)
No. of Votes: 2

Knight Draco
Alessandro1988

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[X][Bonus] Gain Legacy Ancient Centre of Civilisation (Great Bay)
No. of Votes: 30
[X][Bonus] Gain Legacy Ancient Bastion of Civilisation (Great Bay)
No. of Votes: 9

thefoolswriter
Alessandro1988
demonthese2211
DkArthas
jjffjhjf
kilopi505
Knight Draco
NúmenoreanNazgûl
Redciv3

[X][Bonus] Upgrade a random Value
No. of Votes: 9

Raichu1972
Bookreader
Brogatar
jamie96969
jjffjhjf
mrsean22
Pyre
Random Member
Star

[X][Bonus] Put Sunrise Mountain Passage on automatic action track (Will gain +1 Progress each turn with no action cost, but you will still need to stat costs).
No. of Votes: 8

Random Member
Alessandro1988
buli-buli
demonthese2211
DkArthas
Killer_Whale
Knight Draco
Omegahugger

[X][Bonus] Gain two or more Innovations.
No. of Votes: 3

Marlin
pttpttrwttr
Pyre

——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: SEC
[X][SEC] Sunrise Mountain Passage
No. of Votes: 35
[X][SEC] Support Subordinate = Maradysh
No. of Votes: 26
[X][SEC] Create New Trails.
No. of Votes: 11

Marlin
buli-buli
Hallesworth49
nat_401
nkd1325
NúmenoreanNazgûl
Pyre
Redciv3
Skjadir
UlseDovThur
Vanguard_D

[X][SEC] War Party = Boarfolk Nomads
No. of Votes: 3

pttpttrwttr
Alessandro1988
Knight Draco

[X][SEC] Build Palisade = Greenbay
No. of Votes: 3

pttpttrwttr
demonthese2211
DkArthas

[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
No. of Votes: 2

Random Member
Killer_Whale

[X][SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlands)
No. of Votes: 2

Random Member
Killer_Whale

[X][SEC] Sacred Forest
No. of Votes: 2

Random Member
Omegahugger

[X][SEC] Stone Wall
No. of Votes: 2

Random Member
Omegahugger

[X][SEC] Support Subordinate = Merntir
No. of Votes: 2

LonelyWolf999
NúmenoreanNazgûl

[X][SEC] Study Metal.
No. of Votes: 1

pttpttrwttr

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Coastline)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Coastal Plains)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Cursed Forest)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Lowlands)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunset Mountains)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunrise Mountains)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Western Coast)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

[X][SEC] Explore Lands = (Northern Coast)
No. of Votes: 1

Random Member

——————————————————————————————————————————————Task: MAIN
[X][MAIN] Create New Trails.
No. of Votes: 1

kilopi505

Total No. of Voters: 52

Cariyaga · Feb 19, 2019

So, what do the Random God Numbers have for us today? Seven extra heroes? Spontaneous divinity among our people?

Raichu1972 · Feb 19, 2019

Cariyaga said:
So, what do the Random God Numbers have for us today? Seven extra heroes? Spontaneous divinity among our people?

Hopefully neither.
Heroes and divinity begin to lose their luster when you get them literally all the time, after all.

Oshha · Feb 19, 2019

Cariyaga said:
So, what do the Random God Numbers have for us today? Seven extra heroes? Spontaneous divinity among our people?

Somebody's action completely backfiring on them?

Random Member · Feb 19, 2019

Cariyaga said:
So, what do the Random God Numbers have for us today? Seven extra heroes? Spontaneous divinity among our people?

Some guy called Mag-Lyan, or something, shows up in a giant ship that's far more advanced than anything we have and wants to trade with us. And by trade he means "give me all your valuables or I'll slaughter you all".

nat_401 · Feb 19, 2019

I hope the Maradysh didn't kick off when their overlords, who killed so many of their fellows, just turned up and incidentally reminded them that they killed loads of their people not that long ago.

Edit: Oh dear, It's never a good thing when I'm rated insightful, I never have anything positive to say.

Star · Feb 19, 2019

We should had helped Merthyr .

Omegahugger · Feb 19, 2019

nat_401 said:
I hope the Maradysh didn't kick off when their overlords, who killed so many of their fellows, just turned up and incidentally reminded them that they killed loads of their people not that long ago.

They should at least have the decency to wait until we have are under attack from two other sources!

Random Member · Feb 19, 2019

Ah, anti-imperialist uprisings already? Too bad we're not in an era where those could be a bit more.... revolutionary.

Raichu1972 · Feb 19, 2019

Let's not do the whole "QM implies something bad and everyone descends into a salt spiral" thing again folks.
It got old the last few times y'all did it.

Random Member · Feb 19, 2019

Raichu1972 said:
Let's not do the whole "QM implies something bad and everyone descends into a salt spiral" thing again folks.
It got old the last few times y'all did it.

There's not enough salt until everyone turns into a Salt Pillar Man!

~ayayaya~

Knight Draco · Feb 19, 2019

Raichu1972 said:
Let's not do the whole "QM implies something bad and everyone descends into a salt spiral" thing again folks.
It got old the last few times y'all did it.

Smh, appreciate the tradition!

nat_401 · Feb 19, 2019

Random Member said:
Ah, anti-imperialist uprisings already? Too bad we're not in an era where those could be a bit more.... revolutionary.

Well the Midlanders worship a Goddess of Rebellion so if anywhere is going to quickly develop revolutionary theory's that's the place.

Omegahugger · Feb 19, 2019

Raichu1972 said:
Let's not do the whole "QM implies something bad and everyone descends into a salt spiral" thing again folks.
It got old the last few times y'all did it.

Something bad? If the Maradysh rebel, that means that not making them our vassals has retroactively become the correct action to take back then.

Through means I had no control over, I will get to be all smug and annoying for minutes.

Kiba · Feb 19, 2019

Vassals are headache, especially given our limited action economy.

Star · Feb 19, 2019

Omegahugger said:
Something bad? If the Maradysh rebel, that means that not making them our vassals has retroactively become the correct action to take back then.

Through means I had no control over, I will get to be all smug and annoying for minutes.

No matter wich action we took it won't change the core of the problem, that we killed quite a number of them (their warriors at least)

But on other hand they did attack us first, instead rebelling against their undead overlords.

Knight Draco · Feb 19, 2019

At least now we can strike them down and keep them down as they slowly assimilate our religion.
Meanwhile, considering the lowlander gods should be pretty weak given their situation (most of their people dead, barely any shrines to their name, and facing off against the giants of our pantheon.), makes me raise the question...
@Oshha is it possible for our gods to kill the lowlander gods?

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