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Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Minnesota
[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
KnownParadox
Not a sphere
- Location
- Canada
[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
- Location
- nz
[X] The Catclaw, Cerwyn (Good Admin/Heroic Martial/Average Diplo/Terrible Mystic/Terrible Tech/Above Average Culture)
[X] Do not name a successor. (No heir)
I want to set a precedent for the reigning leader having no direct say in their successor. Not a big one, but traits and values are combined patterns of behaviors.
Lead is a type of heavy metal poisoning, which weakens health over time as it builds up. Its a very slow killer, the Romans knowingly used lead compounds for makeup and sweeteners even though they knew it was poisonous, it takes decades to kill you so it was worth it.
Lead poisoning ONLY occurs from ingestion. A lead spike in your body isn't any more harmful than other types of spikes.
Lead is neither readily soluble in water, nor readily absorbed into the body, you can in fact, use lead plates to eat from, swallow slivers of lead scraped from your utensils, and you'd poop it right out.
So, what makes lead poisonous? Acid will react (slowly) with lead to form lead salts, which CAN be absorbed into the body. This means acidic or sweet foods, sauces and the weak acids found in rainwater will react and make it easier to absorb.
And of course, around a lead smelter theres going to be vaporized lead compounds from the metal vapor reacting with all sorts of crap, and then absorbed into the bloodstream via lungs
1) His power is drawn from the forest, and this far away he doesn't have the power to draw.
2) His power is drawn from his gods, and with his people dead theres not enough faith left to power much more than himself and the revenants.
3) The goddesses bitchslapped his power away from our dead so he can't animate them.
And yeah, its pretty normal as wars go, barring the undead abomination.
This way lies foolish behavior.
He's dead, he's gone, we burned the corpses.
We cannot reach the bloody forest with any kind of realistic force. Let it be. If they bring him back THEN we deal with him.
But if they can bring him back they can also do a whole lot of unpleasant things with that magic anyways.
I want to set a precedent for the reigning leader having no direct say in their successor. Not a big one, but traits and values are combined patterns of behaviors.
To clarify for people who don't know.
Lead is a type of heavy metal poisoning, which weakens health over time as it builds up. Its a very slow killer, the Romans knowingly used lead compounds for makeup and sweeteners even though they knew it was poisonous, it takes decades to kill you so it was worth it.
Lead poisoning ONLY occurs from ingestion. A lead spike in your body isn't any more harmful than other types of spikes.
Lead is neither readily soluble in water, nor readily absorbed into the body, you can in fact, use lead plates to eat from, swallow slivers of lead scraped from your utensils, and you'd poop it right out.
So, what makes lead poisonous? Acid will react (slowly) with lead to form lead salts, which CAN be absorbed into the body. This means acidic or sweet foods, sauces and the weak acids found in rainwater will react and make it easier to absorb.
And of course, around a lead smelter theres going to be vaporized lead compounds from the metal vapor reacting with all sorts of crap, and then absorbed into the bloodstream via lungs
I'd hazard three guesses:
1) His power is drawn from the forest, and this far away he doesn't have the power to draw.
2) His power is drawn from his gods, and with his people dead theres not enough faith left to power much more than himself and the revenants.
3) The goddesses bitchslapped his power away from our dead so he can't animate them.
And thus falls the elder evil
Though on the plus side we have a little time because we killed Urth in combat they're unlikely to challenge us directly since they know they'd die.
How would this work with the midlanders? Do they cleave to their traditional family structures or would our priests do some more pushing?
Epic Hero legacy?
And yeah, its pretty normal as wars go, barring the undead abomination.
Hmm, Goddess of War or Death?
This way lies foolish behavior.
He's dead, he's gone, we burned the corpses.
We cannot reach the bloody forest with any kind of realistic force. Let it be. If they bring him back THEN we deal with him.
But if they can bring him back they can also do a whole lot of unpleasant things with that magic anyways.
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
If the evil spirits also crit failed like urth did while we crit succeeded both times, would Urth have died permanently?
The evil spirits DID crifail like urth did. Both our hero and our goddesses crit succeeded. There is no reason to believe Urth is coming back.
- Location
- United States
If Urth somehow didn't perma die (maybe he had a phylactery somewhere or something), at the very least he got destroyed to the point where he won't be able to threaten us for quite some time.
Considering that he came around the time where the plentiful lowlands was just emptied of people and there were likely villages of dead corpses lying around and still was defeated (with the help of crits), it is unlikely that he will be able to assemble another force that strong for quite some time.
Considering that he came around the time where the plentiful lowlands was just emptied of people and there were likely villages of dead corpses lying around and still was defeated (with the help of crits), it is unlikely that he will be able to assemble another force that strong for quite some time.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Do not let the traitor pick our next leader! It'll be nothing but traitors all the way down!
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
But by letting the traitor picks traitors, at one point one of the future traitors will inevitably betray the other traitors and put a loyalist on the throne!
taovkool
Forever Gone
- Location
- The Library, Department of General Works
Uh, right. Again, who is the traitor you're referring here exactly? Not really seeing any in the story posts.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Evalyn would've brought a civil war if she was not peacefully given control of the Arthrynite government.
@Random Member thinks that not committing a military coup because you got what you wanted is not enough to make up for the fact that you were willing to do it in the first, and that wanting to wrest control from the regular rulers on the back of military might makes you a traitor. I don't fully agree with this assesment, but the logic is sound.
Of course, RM is also rather obviously and unashamedly against monarchies of any stripe, which probably doesn't endear Evalyn to him.
taovkool
Forever Gone
- Location
- The Library, Department of General Works
Okay, wow. That just doesn't make much sense.
@Random Member, you do realize we're barely at the beginning of our civ quest here right?
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
I.... do not see what being at the beginning, end or in the middle has to do with it?
- Location
- Space
Problem is that we don't know that and there is also a fact that in their eternal war Urth and Voryn could had killed each other by now.
And ad to the fact that they can make other hero immortal possibly.
And you do know that he can upgrade himself, that pretty much mean that he can become a genius over time, just like Vervov and we were bearley dealing with him even with two martial hero's and tech hero at out back, now imagine them attacking us when we have none.
And how is it foolish to deal with possible threat when it is weakened and i staying isolationist while waiting for the army of the the undead to come down after us and our values to compel us to war unprepared isn't.
You are basically just dismissing everything i said based on what? That we cannot reach them ,ignoring the fact that infrastructure can be build over time and hopping that we will be able to deal with him.
Even if we are not going to attack them we should still be prepared and have infrastructure in place for said attack in case of our values activating and compelling us to attack them. Basically better to be prepared for every situation then to rush in latter on.
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Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
Urth reviving is a good thing and should not be prevented. He's a source of conflict, and conflict drives progress.
Unending conflict not so much. There is definitely a point of diminish returns.
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Vote is still open.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 190 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4739-4944]
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[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 29
[X] Do not name a successor. (No heir)
No. of Votes: 21
[X] The Catclaw, Cerwyn (Good Admin/Heroic Martial/Average Diplo/Terrible Mystic/Terrible Tech/Above Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 4
Total No. of Voters: 54
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 190 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4739-4944]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 29
No. of Votes: 21
No. of Votes: 4
Total No. of Voters: 54
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Okay, I feel like writing so I'm closing the vote a bit early.
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 190 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4739-4944]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 29
[X] Do not name a successor. (No heir)
No. of Votes: 21
[X] The Catclaw, Cerwyn (Good Admin/Heroic Martial/Average Diplo/Terrible Mystic/Terrible Tech/Above Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 4
Total No. of Voters: 54
Vote Tally : Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest - Original | Page 190 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4739-4944]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
[X] Her daughter, Gwynlyn. (Excellent Admin/Above Average Martial/Good Diplo/Excellent Mystic/Below Average Tech/Average Culture)
No. of Votes: 29
No. of Votes: 21
No. of Votes: 4
Total No. of Voters: 54
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
Yey.
We get to have a post today (tom?)
We get to have a post today (tom?)
Ah, it's a bit of a shame that my favoured option didn't make the cut. Time to see how this plays out though. More importantly, let hope the curtains fall on the Epic Age. I think this is enough excitement for the time being ; v;
- Location
- United States
Let's hope that we can begin to make some headway into properly integrating the midlanders if this war is over.