When they have the time to use it. From what I understand the main benifit of the Stone magic is its precision and the level of detail that can be done, not that it is particularly quick. The silver weapons would be more dependable sense they won't simply shatter and crumble in the middle of a fight like stone will once it fails. I also think the Stone magic is very stamina intensive.
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Would silver arrow heads be neat for anything?
Is stone shattering particularly likely? We'd mainly be using it against cloth and flesh; it won't be having impacts with hard objects often.
Metal is much strong and easily shaped; arrows would have much less of a tendency to break on contact with significant resistance. However, the silver would have a tendency to deform on contact, which is arguably worse.
Innovative arrow designs would become feasible; think bodkin points. The easily shaped part is possibly circumvented with stone-shaping, but I don't think it likely due to the number of arrow you'd need to produce.
Edit: I can see a problem with the rarity of silver, though; stone would likely be much cheaper to use.
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When the people using them are holy warriors that when using their above average strength that is being enhanced by magic that makes them strong enough to pulp someone's chest with a punch like Evalyn did to Vervov? More likely than I would like.
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It isn't so much that magic isn't in low supply, but the ability to learn it is. In theory, any member of the People could learn it due to the nature of the Arthrynite goddesses, but in practice, only priests and now Catclaws and some Cateyes are able to devout their time to learn it. It is also seen as something sacred due to coming from the goddesses so it is seen as inappropriate for someone who doesn't do a sacred duty to learn magic. The fact that your sacred warriors have to spend time learning magic in addition to training up to a higher standard is why you have further of them compared to regular warriors.
That is another thing that needs to be taken into account as your warriors are able to use magic to mentally shape their stone weapons in between battles. Unfortunately, due to stone magic not being a thing in real life, it is hard to tell what sort of effects this would have when it comes to determining the effectiveness of stone versus metal.
That is something they could do, at least with the stone parts. If something happens to the lead, they can't do much about that.
It is about as quick as doing it the non-magic way and sometimes slightly quicker due to the ability to get better precision and detail. Also, it isn't that stamina intensive compared to other physically demanding tasks. If you don't try to do everything at once and spread out over a period of time, you can get it down without exhausting yourself too much. It would still leave you tired, but not anymore than mundane physically demanding job that leaves you tired.
Yes, but even then what they're hitting would tend to give way upon contact; the force would be mostly absorbed. Think the difference between dropping a glass on carpet and a hard stone floor.
Much more likely for the wood to snap than the stone to shatter.
Would a catclaw manufacturing all of their arrows be feasible?
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True, but there will be times when the stone weapons break and they will either need to be replaced or repaired and sense the stone magic isn't much quicker than the normal methods that will be a very time consuming task which isn't something the warriors are going to have a lot of when they are busy fighting and moving between fights.
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I'm going to be honest say that I don't know how long normal methods are, but a Catclaw can reliable replace their stone arrowheads and spearheads between battles if they have a day or two.
However, they can't use stone magic to replace their weapons in a fight.
Could we produce points like the following for our arrows?
There is also this. If the stone weapon breaks in the middle of a fight the person that was using it is in for a bad time. Silver weapons will become dented and deformed but it would take a lot of punishment before it became nonfunctional.
I would personally stick with stone arrow heads because the Stone magic would make it a simple task to make them nice and sharp.Could we produce points like the following for our arrows?
Real-life stone arrowheads for comparison.
Reddit post where people who knap stone as a hobby talk about how long it takes. It takes about an hour per head for a hobbyist who replied; in their estimation people who did it professionally could make an arrowhead in 15 minutes.
There is aerodynamics to consider; also, some designs are better at wounding/killing people or penetrating armor than was possible with real-life stone arrowheads. The kind of stone used for real-life arrowheads could shatter on impact, whereas with emtal even if the silver dents on contact it still penetrates.
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We went down the path of a small number of elite troops, so maybe that balances things out somewhat since we have to make comparatively little weaponry.
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Could we produce points like the following for our arrows?
Real-life stone arrowheads for comparison.
Yes.
No, but it hasn't been tried yet.
We have Native silver in our material list so I imagine we have a half way decent source of it.
Silver has to be manufactured and if you lose it you have to go all the way back to camp to get more. It's in limited supply, requires special facilities to make, and is cutting edge and likely poorly understood tech.
Stone is very easy to find, so you can easily get extra amounts and it is very feasible to replace in the field if all your warriors know stone shaping magic.
If I was a fighter, I might grab silver at first, probably lose it in a fight sooner or later, and fall back on stone because I don't want to waste time going all the way back to home base to get more.
Of course, I would also probably rely more on traps as opposed to weapons since these things don't seem smart for the most part, but eh.
Stone is very easy to find, so you can easily get extra amounts and it is very feasible to replace in the field if all your warriors know stone shaping magic.
If I was a fighter, I might grab silver at first, probably lose it in a fight sooner or later, and fall back on stone because I don't want to waste time going all the way back to home base to get more.
Of course, I would also probably rely more on traps as opposed to weapons since these things don't seem smart for the most part, but eh.
The thing is magic can change everything. If I remember correctly, there are a couple of mythical alloys that are relevant here:
corinthian bronze, a mythical copper, gold, silver alloy
electrum
orichalcum
corinthian bronze, a mythical copper, gold, silver alloy
electrum
orichalcum
Not really feasible for taking out the majority of an invading force, even in conducive terrain. Impossible if they're marching in through plains.
Can they during battle? For example, could a warrior with a spear reshape the tip of their spear after it enters the enemy, to make the wound worse?
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i am honestly not sure it, would come down to the stone used.
There are some stone variants that are really hard and dense so they could make pretty good mace and warhammer head.
We don´t even have to deal much with the downside of the heads breaking instead of denting as we can in theory repair the damage to the head after the battle.
Now the question is if silver has some qualitys that undead really don´t like and if so maybe a stone head with a thin silver layer around the dead.
I would personally use silver to cover a stone warhammer head to be more effective in crushing undead bone.
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In theory they could, but in practice, it is too tiring to be considered worth it by the Catclaws if they had more foes to fight.
Keep in mind that the warriors are not going to instantly jump to the most efficient form of fighting, that a lot of how they act in fights is going to depend on the situation that they find themselves in, and that they can very much be superstitious and come to a belief that silver helps them in some mystic way, even if it's not actually true. That is, be less concerned with the optimal way of using stuff and more concerned with how the warriors are going to react to this.
There are always pit traps, punji sticks and caltrops. It just depends on the type of undead. A shuffling zombie could easily be stopped by pit traps with spikes depending on its intelligence. The trap doesn't even need to kill if they cannot get out, the trap has done its job.