Broken Adventure
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Kalibrius
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You think! If she goes down that rabbit hole she'd drag london with her into the brand new madness
Ah, the Ruin wikia page has No-face. SO that's why we're here now, huh?
Alice is some sorta Land-God, type entity, isn't she? Her mental/soul-state seems to reflect on her local reality(London), so the worse it became, the more dilapidated and corrupt the city looked/became, huh? Now that Shadow is cleaning that mess up, it's become noticeable. Extremely so.
I do agree, I want to murder Bubmy in an incredibly gruesome manner also, because holy shit, you wrote him accurate enough that you just wanna strangle him for existing... Bumby's very existence offends me on a fundamental level, and if it offends me, it must make Adam want him super dead. It kinda shows in how even his Shadow fundamentally cannot stop trying to consume the Dollmaker, it even seems like it's instinctive at this point! The Cat is right though, Alice needs to do this herself, or her mental state will never properly recover, huh? Would also help to recover her memories, wouldn't it? It would make it really fresh in her mind too.
I can't help but wonder if Mr. Duncan the Fishmonger will be key to helping Alice in the physical world? After all, someone has been hurting the little ones. That's just plain not allowed. Some would say that it's unforgivable, after all...
Alice is some sorta Land-God, type entity, isn't she? Her mental/soul-state seems to reflect on her local reality(London), so the worse it became, the more dilapidated and corrupt the city looked/became, huh? Now that Shadow is cleaning that mess up, it's become noticeable. Extremely so.
I do agree, I want to murder Bubmy in an incredibly gruesome manner also, because holy shit, you wrote him accurate enough that you just wanna strangle him for existing... Bumby's very existence offends me on a fundamental level, and if it offends me, it must make Adam want him super dead. It kinda shows in how even his Shadow fundamentally cannot stop trying to consume the Dollmaker, it even seems like it's instinctive at this point! The Cat is right though, Alice needs to do this herself, or her mental state will never properly recover, huh? Would also help to recover her memories, wouldn't it? It would make it really fresh in her mind too.
I can't help but wonder if Mr. Duncan the Fishmonger will be key to helping Alice in the physical world? After all, someone has been hurting the little ones. That's just plain not allowed. Some would say that it's unforgivable, after all...
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I'm pretty sure they both are Adam. Maybe. I don't quite get Kingdom Hearts, but I'm pretty sure it's something like that.
Grandly, immensely, and dare I say, intentionally.
Even Ace has gone out of his way to clarify that SHADOW, is SHARD ADAM.
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Also, even regular Adam has never had restraint. The Heart is playing Waifu conscience for Adam, like every other Waifu conscience for Adam. Add to that, that Ace has said, not once, not twice, not even merely thrice; but four times in four separate updates that SHADOW IS SHARD ADAM, in plain English... it's getting to the point that anyone continuing this act of "confusion" is outing themselves as intentionally trying to rile people up, so, please stop flame baiting... Please. The only other excuse would be in the process of learning to read/write/speak English... most of those flame baiting this issue do not exhibit this symptom.
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She is a Princess of the heart with what is mostly likely Kingdomhearts or at least the heart of a world in her soul and probably slowly turns the city into Disneylondon, with Marry Popins and Peter Pan.
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Considering that this is turn of the Century (19th to 20th) for the setting? Somewhere between F-all and "OMG! IT'S THE RAPTURE! REPENT! REPENT FOR THE LORD HAS TAKEN HIS CHIOSEN AND LEFT US SINNERS TO ROT!" So~ society would collapse in... about a week since all the industry leaders would be missing, a good chunk of both the Police, and the criminal element. And pretty much no one would have a clue on how to actually run a business at a profit. So~ Shadow ofAdam (as spelt in the story, hint, hint) might have to figure out how to "automate" like before and set up the remaining population with their new jobs and putting poor Alice in charge of it all.
Kalibrius
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That doesn't sound like a good idea considering the issues
Mayhaps adam should pull a joker and steal a few 'hearts'
Nintendo universes are connected to the kh franchise through smash bros afterall so persona shenanigans should be possible, especially in jolly old london with alice involved who can pull a psychonaut it would be possible for our little bugger to steal the distortions in these darkened hearts should he desire to
Who knows he may gain a persona or become one?
It isn't the first time and eldritch entity became a persona like thanatos who is an example as well as other artificially placed personas
Due pardon my tangent but a question
Would alice the persona fit alice Liddell? Would alice count as a wildcard? Would she get personas representing the various inhabitants of wonderland? Would the shadow Ofadam be the aeon arcana? So many rabbit holes!
Edit Ps I'm curious but anyone want to just call our goofball of soot black darkness Ofadam? Ofadam is an interesting name overall even if it's one caused by compounding typos
Mayhaps adam should pull a joker and steal a few 'hearts'
Nintendo universes are connected to the kh franchise through smash bros afterall so persona shenanigans should be possible, especially in jolly old london with alice involved who can pull a psychonaut it would be possible for our little bugger to steal the distortions in these darkened hearts should he desire to
Who knows he may gain a persona or become one?
It isn't the first time and eldritch entity became a persona like thanatos who is an example as well as other artificially placed personas
Due pardon my tangent but a question
Would alice the persona fit alice Liddell? Would alice count as a wildcard? Would she get personas representing the various inhabitants of wonderland? Would the shadow Ofadam be the aeon arcana? So many rabbit holes!
Edit Ps I'm curious but anyone want to just call our goofball of soot black darkness Ofadam? Ofadam is an interesting name overall even if it's one caused by compounding typos
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to make him properly appreciate your disapproval this treatment also needs to be interspersed with periods in a sensory deprivation area. Alternatively Ancient Greek gods also had some fascinating ideas about punishment.
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Alice Liddell is a young girl, think 15-17 for age, that was made to forget where she first met 'Mr. Bumbly' because he hypnotized her into forgetting it. London is just going through growing pains of the industrial revolution, hence everything being run down in the area. Any more details on the background can be found in the games, plus Bumbly's actual business of sex slave creation.
Dude better hope Adam stays clueless.
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Oh, he will. Alice is his judge, jury, and executioner. The fire he tried to use to break her is eagerly waiting for it's final act.
The Gem is THE LIGHT, which he nabbed and kept shortly after Devouring The Darkness
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- Planet Earth
Hmm... places Darkness/Shadow-of-Adam could go by eating itself...
It could Become...
a Hollow(Bleach)
a Dementor/Inferi/Baku(Harry Potter)
a Tailed Beast(Naruto)?
a Book(Hocus Pocus)
a Reaper(Mass Effect)?
a Ghost/God(Pirates of the Caribbean)
a Demon/Angel(DOOM)
a Brother Moon(Dead Space)
a Chaos God/C'tan/Necron(W40K)
a Genie(Disney/Aladdin)?
a Demon/God(BtVS)?
a Homunculus/Truth(FMA)?
It could Become...
a Hollow(Bleach)
a Dementor/Inferi/Baku(Harry Potter)
a Tailed Beast(Naruto)?
a Book(Hocus Pocus)
a Reaper(Mass Effect)?
a Ghost/God(Pirates of the Caribbean)
a Demon/Angel(DOOM)
a Brother Moon(Dead Space)
a Chaos God/C'tan/Necron(W40K)
a Genie(Disney/Aladdin)?
a Demon/God(BtVS)?
a Homunculus/Truth(FMA)?
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I don't think so.
One that would apply though, a Wound from World Of Darkness/Werewolf.
It's a setting with a spirit world reflection of the real world. Everything is alive and has a spirit, a Wound. A place where something so horrific happened it scarred the very world with its emotional resonances. And just like a pleasant garden has spirits of plants, sunshine, growth, and perhaps even peace, the things that want to make their homes in a Wound are not things most sane people want to run into.
Kalibrius
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In order of resonance
A hollow would be fitting though considering the opposite personality day going on it wouldn't be good though I could imagine them manifesting as a vizard creature with their foci being little gem, and considering some of the older members of the setting they'd probably try and kill him due to being what the quincy were proposed to be, a destroyer of reishi most likely meaning the quinces would be trying to kill him and kill him on sight
Harry potter world may actually let him stay normal as well as raise a healthy dose of panic among wizards due to them realizing a heartless has appeared
Naruto, not a tailed beast but probably something the nara I think could summon up or as a shadow clone, reminds me of the story with the pure blood heartless Drich but that's a little off topic, and most likely again the bijuu and other older members would try and kill him on sight due to being a heartless
Book, nope if anything he'd probably be some sort of familiar if in worlds like witch and the hundred knight, disgaea, familiar of zero, etc
Mass effect, reaper most likely not but to reiterate reapers and the Ansari would probably try to kill him on principle upoun realizing they are a heartless
Pirates of the Caribbean would probably manifest as normal, featured in kh2 and 3 and things were normal for heartless and foreigners
Doom, both factions would be trying to kill him 'angels' and demons alike though ironically I think the doom slayer may accidentally befriend them due to shared proclivities
Dead space, the necromorphs would try and kill him since again heartless and the brother moons would be familiar with them due to age
Warhammer, oncemore adam would be a bane though a welcome one since as the ruin ie distaff counterpart to hashut in broken wonderland, he likes to eat such things, slaanesh would probably be the most tantalizing due to the most overt cruelty, even then the normal untainted factions are little better meaning they're on the menu too
Alladin, Genie would be aware of the heartless and probably recommend al to be cautious but adam would probably win them over since ofadam is like genie except simpler and little weirder
I do not know what BtVS stands for
World of darkness, ofadam would be attacked relentlessly since he'd probably register as 'beast' the guys who are forced to do bad stuff lest their mere prescence causes issues
Other settings of interest, randy Cunningham 9th grade ninja due to how the monsters are made, puella magi franchise due to the witches, the spirit hunters series ie deathmark and ng, hollowknight, nier, the Fate series ie fate apocrypha and fate grand order(ofadam is Beast material, mayhaps beast of hunger? He certainly has the love humanity requirement down but could count as a foreigner/alter ego/ avenger/pretender/any other relevant classes servant possibly), Okami(amaterasu and ofadam would definitely get along), legend of zelda
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2nd edit in short, if it's old enough to remember the bad old days or intimately tied to the world (broken alice discluded due to her situation overall) would probably be aggressive, yubaba probably wasn't around for the bad old days but the river spirit could've thankfully old man river wasn't reimplemented by the time adam arrived
Pss I could imagine after the kingdom hearts arc fate grand order would be a fitting place for adam in terms of the next shard pitstop
A hollow would be fitting though considering the opposite personality day going on it wouldn't be good though I could imagine them manifesting as a vizard creature with their foci being little gem, and considering some of the older members of the setting they'd probably try and kill him due to being what the quincy were proposed to be, a destroyer of reishi most likely meaning the quinces would be trying to kill him and kill him on sight
Harry potter world may actually let him stay normal as well as raise a healthy dose of panic among wizards due to them realizing a heartless has appeared
Naruto, not a tailed beast but probably something the nara I think could summon up or as a shadow clone, reminds me of the story with the pure blood heartless Drich but that's a little off topic, and most likely again the bijuu and other older members would try and kill him on sight due to being a heartless
Book, nope if anything he'd probably be some sort of familiar if in worlds like witch and the hundred knight, disgaea, familiar of zero, etc
Mass effect, reaper most likely not but to reiterate reapers and the Ansari would probably try to kill him on principle upoun realizing they are a heartless
Pirates of the Caribbean would probably manifest as normal, featured in kh2 and 3 and things were normal for heartless and foreigners
Doom, both factions would be trying to kill him 'angels' and demons alike though ironically I think the doom slayer may accidentally befriend them due to shared proclivities
Dead space, the necromorphs would try and kill him since again heartless and the brother moons would be familiar with them due to age
Warhammer, oncemore adam would be a bane though a welcome one since as the ruin ie distaff counterpart to hashut in broken wonderland, he likes to eat such things, slaanesh would probably be the most tantalizing due to the most overt cruelty, even then the normal untainted factions are little better meaning they're on the menu too
Alladin, Genie would be aware of the heartless and probably recommend al to be cautious but adam would probably win them over since ofadam is like genie except simpler and little weirder
I do not know what BtVS stands for
World of darkness, ofadam would be attacked relentlessly since he'd probably register as 'beast' the guys who are forced to do bad stuff lest their mere prescence causes issues
Other settings of interest, randy Cunningham 9th grade ninja due to how the monsters are made, puella magi franchise due to the witches, the spirit hunters series ie deathmark and ng, hollowknight, nier, the Fate series ie fate apocrypha and fate grand order(ofadam is Beast material, mayhaps beast of hunger? He certainly has the love humanity requirement down but could count as a foreigner/alter ego/ avenger/pretender/any other relevant classes servant possibly), Okami(amaterasu and ofadam would definitely get along), legend of zelda
Edit Pardon the word vomit
2nd edit in short, if it's old enough to remember the bad old days or intimately tied to the world (broken alice discluded due to her situation overall) would probably be aggressive, yubaba probably wasn't around for the bad old days but the river spirit could've thankfully old man river wasn't reimplemented by the time adam arrived
Pss I could imagine after the kingdom hearts arc fate grand order would be a fitting place for adam in terms of the next shard pitstop
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No.
Insisting to include derivative trash ero games that, at best, is hopeless revenge porn, on top of regular porn; and at worst is a masochist misogynists' wet dream tailoring to very twisted audience demands for more misery. There is no rhyme, nor reason to include that counter culture trash heap for anything other than self masturbatory gratification, and its fandom is second only to the War Hammer AnyK franchise in deluded fans that are self harming in their adulations of such filth.
Also, AceofFire has better tastes than that. So, hopefully he continues his trend of not giving in to peer pressure on where to take his story.
Damn, I haven't seen a fandom subjected to that level of trashing since the Steven Universe fandom drama.
I mean, at a glance, it looks like one of a billion of the same shitty phone game, but that's some hate ya got there.
Ha, Universe, heck Ranma 1/2, wishes they were that bad. (to justify the level of drama they got) Even Attack On Titans (or Worm) don't manage to get as bad. And frankly, if it wasn't for the fans the War Hammer franchise wouldn't either. But the Fate/Stay/Grand series... yeah, no. I've been exposed to enough details about its multiple continuity rehashing to know that the characters are banal as F, the story is derivative to distraction, it exalts the abusive, rapey, relationships. And it excuses the act of never getting better down to a universal law that precludes making things better even if the player/MC gets rid of a major villain/douche character. The entire thing vacillates between a porn pretending to be an ecchi, and not even hiding its a porno. It has a habit of forgetting that there was a plot, and when it remembers it tries to play it off like it's reminding the audience that there is one.
So, again, if it wasn't for the fandom, I'd only consider it a worse version of Attack On Titans. But just like War Hammer, the fans make it worse. They praise its mockery of society as ideals to aspire to, they exalt the psychological, physical, and on occasions the sexual abuse as actions to emulate. And even if they're trying to be ironic, given the sheer fervor of their adulations, I personally find it hard to believe that they don't actually believe in their praise of the actions of the depraved within the series.
But trying to tell people they need help, is unhelpful. Without any way to actually attack the problem that lets something like that appeal to those that desperately need therapy... I can only take out my disgust on the thing that enables such people to indulge their worst parts of themselves. The franchises that allow such indulgence. So yeah, my hate is less about how uninspiring the franchises are, and more about how much it encourages others to be worse than they can be if they but tried to be better people.
{Edit} Though, I suppose it's possible I've tended to encounter more the... less sociable fans of either War Hammer, or Fate etc. franchises. Which has soured my opinion of all fans of either franchises. But given how any fan of either franchise I've... had the misfortune to meet, tend to gush about how awesome either are/were; like they were utterly oblivious to the actual implications of, never mind the WoG statements regarding, the societal conditions, actions, and intentions of the setting, the characters, and organizations... I think I honestly wouldn't recognize a fan that was a well adjusted human being that didn't acknowledge that they were a fan. Largely in part because the only fans that I've met of either series, bragged about being fans of either series because of how horrible one or more components of either series was.
So, again, if it wasn't for the fandom, I'd only consider it a worse version of Attack On Titans. But just like War Hammer, the fans make it worse. They praise its mockery of society as ideals to aspire to, they exalt the psychological, physical, and on occasions the sexual abuse as actions to emulate. And even if they're trying to be ironic, given the sheer fervor of their adulations, I personally find it hard to believe that they don't actually believe in their praise of the actions of the depraved within the series.
But trying to tell people they need help, is unhelpful. Without any way to actually attack the problem that lets something like that appeal to those that desperately need therapy... I can only take out my disgust on the thing that enables such people to indulge their worst parts of themselves. The franchises that allow such indulgence. So yeah, my hate is less about how uninspiring the franchises are, and more about how much it encourages others to be worse than they can be if they but tried to be better people.
{Edit} Though, I suppose it's possible I've tended to encounter more the... less sociable fans of either War Hammer, or Fate etc. franchises. Which has soured my opinion of all fans of either franchises. But given how any fan of either franchise I've... had the misfortune to meet, tend to gush about how awesome either are/were; like they were utterly oblivious to the actual implications of, never mind the WoG statements regarding, the societal conditions, actions, and intentions of the setting, the characters, and organizations... I think I honestly wouldn't recognize a fan that was a well adjusted human being that didn't acknowledge that they were a fan. Largely in part because the only fans that I've met of either series, bragged about being fans of either series because of how horrible one or more components of either series was.
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rafuki22
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Calm down, chill, relax...
I think that there is a lot of exaggeration going on.
The same could be said from any other fandom and franchise, everything is just a matter of perspective.
Not to mention, calling somethig trash without even knowing it(I assume that none of you know that much about the Nasuverse)doesn't same very reasonable.
. . . We are talking about the same series where the planet is dying, its manifestation hates humanity, 9 out of every 10 mega organizations are trying to destroy the planet harder, and just because the writers didn't think they made it grim derp enough added exalted lite in the form of Mages and their organizations in which 10 out of 10 are trying to take all the planet's magic/power for themselves. Thrown into all that is this attempt at a light hearted slice of life typically centered around a neurologically damaged protagonist that has self flagellation issues, that for no discernable reason makes all the females within his age range wet for him, and not a few, rapey, adult males sprung. And despite acknowledging that no matter what said protag does, that the world doesn't/won't get better because of a universal law (in universe) that everything sucks; that the protag keeps on keeping on "in the hopes that one day things will get better" Then just when the writer's remembered it's supposed to be grim derp then decide to include that most of said girls hoping to ride the protag like a bronco, are hoping to do so, so that they can forget whatever abusive home life they have going on at where they live.
That Nasuverse? Because if you're talking about a different Nasuverse, then we're not talking about the same series.
Like I said, objectively it's only a slightly worse Attack On Titans. In terms of story, characters, and setting. It's the fans that I have issue with, the ones that defends the dredges of humanity and *shudders* admires some the worse characters in the series itself. The series is firmly in the not worth my time pile, and if it weren't for the fans that exalt all that is wrong with it as the greatest thing since cheese bread, I honestly wouldn't give it a second thought; it is that uninteresting.
Unfortunately, the fans, won't let it die the ignoble death it deserves, and it now has so many sequels and spin offs that just on marketing alone it's an annoyance. But the sheer reverence via word of mouth is what makes it contemptable. I hate the series for what it does to the public, not for what it is. Odd to hear, I know, but there you go.
That Nasuverse? Because if you're talking about a different Nasuverse, then we're not talking about the same series.
Like I said, objectively it's only a slightly worse Attack On Titans. In terms of story, characters, and setting. It's the fans that I have issue with, the ones that defends the dredges of humanity and *shudders* admires some the worse characters in the series itself. The series is firmly in the not worth my time pile, and if it weren't for the fans that exalt all that is wrong with it as the greatest thing since cheese bread, I honestly wouldn't give it a second thought; it is that uninteresting.
Unfortunately, the fans, won't let it die the ignoble death it deserves, and it now has so many sequels and spin offs that just on marketing alone it's an annoyance. But the sheer reverence via word of mouth is what makes it contemptable. I hate the series for what it does to the public, not for what it is. Odd to hear, I know, but there you go.
Kalibrius
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Just a suggestion, if nothing else, we all have options worth sharing and perspectives to give, you probably had bad experiences with the game while Those like me were drawn by the lore rather than the fan service
Ultimately I can only give a limited perspective on things since I focus on the academic and lore perspectives rather than art and character design
Hopefully no one else has had Similar horrible experiences
Ultimately I can only give a limited perspective on things since I focus on the academic and lore perspectives rather than art and character design
Hopefully no one else has had Similar horrible experiences
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