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I had a horrible thought. Is Adam Warehouse date raping the Jump Docs?

Think about how he acts. It's like he wants to go up to the girl, and mind wipes her just after they've started getting frisky. Of course, the girl has her own backstory/ background/ agenda. Adam Warehouse doesn't care about her though. He just wasn't his frisky moment and to get the most for his Jumper. Jump Doc pretend that Adam Warehouse didn't just use you and your sisters. Poor, poor Jump Docs for Adam Warehouse calling them ugly and worse and then trying to take advantage.

He better hope the Jump Docs call the Jump Chain cops on him!

I sort of see the Jump Docs as merely the method/interface the Jumper has for inserting into a reality. They don't exist until a Jumper looks to enter. Then they are automatically generated on what actually exists there. The process that is generating them though isn't something that Adam can see or influence. He keeps trying to hack everything though.

To be honest, the jumps didn't sound nearly that bad. Sarah counts as an end chain jumper. (So of course the vast set of jumps will bore her.) She started off with hundreds of jumps under her belt without the perks of that. Adam cheated as much as he could into giving her end chain perks right then.

She's been less than a dozen jumps and is ready for her spark. I'd laugh when Adam figures out that was actually a real thing that he hasn't been working on giving his Jumper. Of course, Adam will be, but I can do better than that.

It is sort of strange that he never fixed that first 1000 choice points per setting thing. That's actually a standard that he and Sarah haven't been getting.
 
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A Nobody?
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    • dracklor said:
    Hmm, since Adam's Shard very specifically does not have a Heart, he should be a Nobody.
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    But a Body and the energy from the Heart in the form of a Soul is needed to make a Nobody. One that could theoretically regrow a Heart at some point.

    Instead there was just a fraction of a fraction of something that in one universe is called a Soul, but in this universe is called a Heart.

    I'm pretty sure he shouldn't have turned into anything.

    Then again he shouldn't have eaten something that didn't exist in the first place. That's always been a questionable idea to begin with! My mother always said that you shouldn't eat anything that doesn't exist, or any location that hasn't been constructed yet.
     
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    • theaceoffire said:

    Mine.
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    And you meant that literally too. It's really odd to have a Shadow holding it's own Heart/Soul, in it's hands. And that tiny fragment, is still comparable to the Kingdom Hearts themselves.

    I bet, to drive in further how ridiculous Adam is, he's basically broken the balance of this... multiverse, by existing. Unless this is before the timelines of the series itself...

    This tiny Shadow(of Adam) can tank and ignore pretty much any attack I bet. If they can even hit something that decided to not get hit. When all else fails, he still has [Harvest] if he really wants to get rid of something. He's got all the cheat codes, including new forms of teleportation! Weird things happen when you eat a sentient piece of the Abyss.

    This series is chock-full of stupid evil sadistic Food though! No wonder Sadism lead right to it!
     
    So are we ever going back to Sarah and warehouse Adam or is this going to be a full arc?

    And how much if Disney are we doing? Because there are A LOT of Disney properties. Even if we only count the ones for children. Especially since toy story was revealed to be included in the newest game, which means modern and potentially even future settings can be included. Toy Adam? furry Adam? Sapient car Adam? All possible. Dozens of tv shows too.
     
    Oh this is going to be dusk to dawn quest level of interesting
    Who wants to bet the pure blood is going to become the darkling equivalent of eraqus of dusk to dawn
    Admittedly this depends when this is, the keyblade war the master of masters was a participant of, the union cross war, kingdom hearts proper or an entirely unrelated section?
     
    Adam's Shard is modeled after a Worm Shard.
    Worm Shards with enough power+DATA+secondary superpower processing nodes are large enough to be entire worlds unto themselves.
    The Gem Heart, which is noted in story to be a World's Heart, is the Heart of [The World of "Adam's Shard"].

    Adam's Shard [Consumed] The Darkness.

    This let The Darkness inside Adam's Shard, where The Darkness then overwhelmed [The World of "Adam's Shard"].

    This lack of a Heartless instigator causing this darkness resulted in [The World Of "Adam's Shard] to be cleanly precipitated into its primordial components, KH mythos style.

    KH mythos style says that all Worlds in KH were made out of Light and Darkness, and all Worlds may eventually dissolve back into the Light and Darkness that birthed it, permitting Worlds to undergo a cycle of self-reincarnation to reform themselves into something new.

    [The World Of "Adam's Shard"] essentially stumbled into this natural process by accident, preventing a Nobody from forming as Adam's Shard was evenly split into two portions: The Darkness births and stores the space, time, and continuity of a World's existence, plus The Light that births and stores the energy, purpose, and heart of a World's existence.

    Reincarnation allows for Worlds to dissolve, rearrange, add/subtract new/old data, and then regenerate their Chain Of Memories and Body in order to create a new reality/universe, or to heal from damage, or to perform self improvement, or to relieve boredom, or all of the above.

    An example of this process writ small: the procedure used to heal Sora was identical to how World's re-arrange and self-restore, albeit using the Realm Of Nothing to hack the KH debug menu cheat codes to make Sora "Count-As" a World for plan to work properly, especially as the damage to Sora in the first place was also caused by Realm Of Nothing derived malware.
     
    This latest chapter and all the comments and theories made me remember how bat-shit crazy KH is in terms of lore and reality mechanics.

    As for what Adam's Shard became:….. did you not see the 'average' shadow gremlin connect on a core conceptual level to a plane of reality. Then see something interesting, yoink it for himself, and proceed to fuck with things that have city sized hands. Followed by doing supportive commentary made possible by genuine obliviousness to the situation and views of others?? What else could that be but the Essence of Adam?
     
    theaceoffire said:
    Ironically, a LOT of the local medical data, techniques, and equipment was pretty advanced for this world, at least the stuff Sarah and Adam had stolen from the labs were. Then again, the horrors of the nazi camps progressed a lot of medical feilds as well, and THAT was also a shitshow.
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    Sorry, I was just catching up, and I can't let this go.

    The death and torture camps did not, in fact, advance medical science.

    Like, they were ostensibly doing research on how to revive people who were experiencing hypothermia, right? So you want to get a baseline of each victim's medical status: age, weight, sex, blood pressure, etc. Then you want to chill the victim by a particular amount by placing them in water at a specific temperature for a specific length of time. Next, you pick your treatments and record which treatment you're giving the victim in its specifics. Finally, you record victim outcomes.

    (Any vaguely ethical researcher would pick non-human animals with a similar mass-to-surface-area ratio to humans, of course, even if they were spurning modern ethical traditions. Rat studies are more likely to get approved, but rats have a lot more surface area for their mass, so they change temperature faster. This can alter your results significantly.)

    The Nazis didn't bother with any of that. They just chucked people in cold water (how cold?), left them for a while (how long?), and tried warming them up with various means. They didn't even record survival rates. They weren't concerned with spending lives to advance human knowledge, which would still be horrific. They just wanted to get paid to torture people in various ways.

    Even if the ethical considerations weren't at play, any modern researcher trying to analyze the data they recorded would give it up for useless.

    Even their non-invasive science was suspect. Their anthropological and genetic reports had to support the ideology of Germanic superiority. However, since a lot of that data was collected with a purpose other than torture, there was actual science to glean from it, even though it had to be independently confirmed.

    Meanwhile, they dealt blows to medical science in other areas. In the early 1900s, Germany was the place to go to get transgender medical care. First sex reassignment surgeries. First top surgeries. First hormone therapies. First attempted cross-sex reproductive organ transplants. The Nazis destroyed all that data. You know the images of Nazis burning books -- that's at least some of what they were burning.
     
    T_blazian said:
    This latest chapter and all the comments and theories made me remember how bat-shit crazy KH is in terms of lore and reality mechanics.

    As for what Adam's Shard became:….. did you not see the 'average' shadow gremlin connect on a core conceptual level to a plane of reality. Then see something interesting, yoink it for himself, and proceed to fuck with things that have city sized hands. Followed by doing supportive commentary made possible by genuine obliviousness to the situation and views of others?? What else could that be but the Essence of Adam?
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    If Adam didn't have plot armor he would have been crushed/eaten by the obviously stronger beings in the darkness...

    ...but he has all the plot armor so all is well.(How did he even dodge?Are the giants just dumb brutes incapable of catching a obviously out of place shadow?)

    I know that Adam is supposed to be OP, but i dislike how, sometimes, instead of Adam winning by being stronger and smarter, it looks like he wins because his enemies are suddenly less smart and competent than him.
     
    Movement?
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    • rafuki22 said:
    How did he even dodge?
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    If you go back and reread that section a little closer, there's a really important line that's easy to miss.

    theaceoffire said:
    It didn't move.

    It didn't need to.

    This was the D̷ar͢͞ḱ͡ń̡̨e͢ss͏̵͡, and the shadow was part of it.

    So it didn't vanish, nor did it teleport, nor did it move.

    For the shadow was already there, touching the pink gem.
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    Oh trust me, it's not supposed to work like this. In the video games a shadow in the middle of an attack would take time to sink into a two-dimensional form, take time to change position, could be forced out of its two dimensional form, and requires time to become three-dimensional again.

    This one however has a disturbingly dense amount of Darkness involved.

    It gained this power directly due to exploring the ability to connect abstract concepts that touch one another, and using that undefined pathway as a method of devouring itself into a new Realm.

    This particular shadow is so steeped in Darkness that the difference between it and other areas of the Darkness is damn close to negligible. Thankfully like any other new shadow and any other new Heartless, it's dumb as a bag of bricks and doesn't realize that it may be a tiny bit omnipresent at the moment.
     
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    • theaceoffire said:
    If you go back and reread that section a little closer, there's a really important line that's easy to miss.
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    I didn't miss it, i was thinking why the Titans didn't do the same.
    I am pretty sure there is something wrong with your explanation, but i am not enough of an expert in KH to refute you.
    Well, its your fic anyway, so continue, i am curious to see when and where he will end up.
     
    rafuki22 said:
    i was thinking why the Titans didn't do the same.
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    None of the heartless can do this, for they weren't formed with an ongoing and continuous connection directly to the concept of Darkness at a scale this large.

    In the video games themselves, there is no instantaneous movement for any of the characters. Even nobody's have to use special cloaks to protect themselves while physically traveling between the worlds using the shadow corridors, while other characters have to construct physical ships out of gummy blocks and travel outside of normal reality to physically journey elsewhere. The various summon portals and so forth are basically just opened Shadow corridors, and even the teleportation abilities of some enemies take a few moments to disappear and reappear.

    Omnipresence is a broken op power because in this particular case it works very much the same way as evade works in legend of Mana 2. At any moment this particular shadow is already in several places but only retroactively in the one that it wishes to be in... while carrying what it wish to have carried in the process.

    So yes it is incredibly overpowered, it would make all the video games unplayable if any normal heartless had the same skill.
     
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    theaceoffire said:
    So yes it is incredibly overpowered, it would make all the video games unplayable if any normal heartless had the same skill.
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    The implication of omnipresence, if you want to take it that way, is that it is impossible to miss you, no matter where or when you are, they will always hit you.

    Is like super-speed, cool right?
    Ups, bugs in the face, ups, friction and sonic booms, ups, nuclear explosions behind you.
    Like many powers, they need secondary powers to be useful...
    ...but he alredy has them, so i am just ranting.

    And i don't think that it would be unplayable, keyblades are pretty bs from what i heard, not even taking magic into account(if they can interact with nothingness and time in someway, umbrakinetic omnipresence shouldn't be that far off).
     
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    rafuki22 said:
    The implication of omnipresence, if you want to take it that way, is that it is impossible to miss you, no matter where or when you are, they will always hit you.
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    Not omnipresence in the sense of always being everywhere, so much as in the way of the catboy nazi from Hellsing, Schrodinger. He's -potentially- anywhere, but consciously chooses to observe himself in whatever position he wants to be in, thus putting himself in that position at that time..
     
    28th00 said:
    Truly, being Adam is Chaos.
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    If that was the case every world that Adam visited would have ended worse, Adam is Order, if his great amounts of research and micro/macro management indicates something.
    Adam only looks like chaos because he is breaking the previous status quo very hard and very fast.
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    And yet, somehow things will get better when the dust settles.
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    Because of plot armor.
    In another multiverse, made by the collective imagination of a significant number of pessimistic human members of sufficientvelocity that have read this story, Adam is having a bad time.
     
    rafuki22 said:
    If that was the case every world that Adam visited would have ended worse, Adam is Order, if his great amounts of research and micro/macro management indicates something.
    Adam only looks like chaos because he is breaking the previous status quo very hard and very fast.

    Because of plot armor.
    In another multiverse, made by the collective imagination of a significant number of pessimistic human members of sufficientvelocity that have read this story, Adam is having a bad time.
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    So, here's the thing.

    His methods are fairly chaotic, and he's clearly just winging it. Never mind "Adventure", his middle name is "It seemed like a good idea at the time." But overall he's a force for Order. Why?

    Change is inherently destabilizing, even positive change still upsets whatever balance you had.

    Think of it like renovating your house. While the construction is happening, living there is a shit show, there's extra dust and mess, you can't use part of your house properly, it's noisy, and it won't be whatever you've been used to dealing with even when its done.

    But after all that, it is better.
     
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