- Location
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Very, very disturbed.
Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]
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To be fair, it's less whitewashing and more that most everyone, myself included, didn't really like the more, say, visceral aspects of war. And we prefer melodrama than see Kongou waddles through the guts on her enemies, blankly stared ahead.
Also, half of the fanbase were from HP section, which meant about half of us more interested in civil (melo)drama than gritty war action, so there's that.
- Location
- Northish
I would think about making a go for the guard's gun at that point. Better dead than a meat puppet.
- Location
- Somewhere
They're abyssals. It's not likely he could use it, or if he could that any man portable weapon of that time period could present enough threat to Tosa that she'd have to kill him.
Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
- Location
- United States
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- Plural/They/He/Her
I just tend to avoid writing Abyssals in general, mostly because it's not the kind of thing I generally want to write.
On the other hand, when I do write it, you get stuff like the Demons (AbySeydlitz, for instance) and they aren't exactly nice. The alternative is Jellyfish, who (not just because she's Sara >.>) is less 'MURDER DEATH KILL' and more 'leave me alone before I kill you'. Kinda like Hoppou, really.
Which reminds me....
*hops over to snip thread*
On the other hand, when I do write it, you get stuff like the Demons (AbySeydlitz, for instance) and they aren't exactly nice. The alternative is Jellyfish, who (not just because she's Sara >.>) is less 'MURDER DEATH KILL' and more 'leave me alone before I kill you'. Kinda like Hoppou, really.
Which reminds me....
*hops over to snip thread*
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Considering most of the examples I read were like Gibraltar or Miss "Aren't I nice to only hold onto most of the Atlantic" Taylor-expie?
I stand by my statements. Maybe you did it better, but I am very unimpressed by your 'colleagues' work.
Soap Opera melodrama, maybe. Or Harem comedy, given how Harry gets shipgirls dumped in his lap.
I think SH means the same thing Land did: blowing his brains out.
But if the gun part doesn't work, he does have that knife. Unless not even a knife cuts unless it's held by an Abyssal.
True, you're not much of a... cosmic/eldritch horror guy. You tend to take your drama and emotional trauma straight from the tap of humanity.
Harry Leferts
Suave Shadow Cabal Kaiju
Gibraltar is a shipgirl version of an Installation though...
And so is Halifax who when being jostled awake sort of tossed Kentucky and Illinois out of the spiritual realm to try and get them to let her sleep... and then later smothered Wisky in her chest as only a fifteen foot tall woman with huge tits can.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
And that is supposed to mean something? Like, trying to lump all this stuff together is not helping you here.
Admiral_Corgi
The Admiral of the PT Boats
- Location
- The Strange land of Florida
The first half of this new update was cute as cute can be. And Mutsu, Pickle Juice isn't that bad now, unless the pickles are expired, then yeah it's bad. Trust me I know, anyways its good for stopping leg cramps... at least for us Humans. Dunno about boats though.
The second half though... oh boy where the fuck do I begin here? Perhaps at the beginning, and maybe hope my sanity keeps it together to complete the analysis and put forth the new Theories I have and state which ones have been almost all but directly confirmed.
Ah yes, the POV of the those unlucky enough to be a POW of the Abyssals. I remember what happened to that unlucky zoomie (and the others) that had been held captive by Abyssmark's Sister.
This here though, this here tells me several things besides the obvious. Captain Aaron here must've been a POW of Tosa for sometime now, though exactly for how long is yet not known, maybe. And its apparent that they've tried to interrogate him before in the past if his statement of not telling them anything is anything to go by. Though it could be just his military training acting here but the details to me anyways hint that he's done this before, but the manner of his waking tells me it perhaps wasn't in this bunker complex. I do find it very doubtful that this woulda been his first time given that he's come to know that skeletal figure as the guard. Confusion, and perhaps terror at the figures around him would send even officers into a state of panic upon the first meeting. Unless Aaron truly has nerves of steel, unlikely... but if that is so... then perhaps it may yet help explain why what happens latter on happens...
This line here, this one line... its telling. He knows about her, now whether it was from the guards(highly unlikely) or past contact experience. Perhaps as a ship Captain that had prior evaded/had-contact with Tosa in the past; perhaps as part of the forces that have kept the Philippines from being under abyssal control?; remains to be seen. But regardless of the means, he not only knows her name but her appearance as well.
The visual imagine the first half of this alone pains is...unsettling, to say the least. But the second half, when Tosa speaks to Aaron, my first and immediate thoughts were that this was some bizzar kind of interrogation technique. But then as I thought about it, a different thought. A, theory, to why she asks him to bathe came to my mind. I'll expand on that in a little bit. There are details here that I must comment and theorize on before my racing, and rapidly unraveling mind is completely consumed by the Typhoon of thoughts, Theories and implications that are battering it presently.
This small exchange here, is more evidence I believe that Aaron here has been Interrogated before by either Tosa herself before or her minions at the least. It is either that or Tosa has other plans... and I dare say even, feelings for the man. Why though I'm not sure I could pinpoint... and to be honest, I fear exploring that path of thought. Trying to think like one of those monsters for a prolong period of time is no good for one's sanity.
Though the way Tosa approached him, like she was trying to appeal to him... I can't help but think that this isn't a behavior she'd normally do, I saw nothing that carried the usual malice and hatred that I've seen with every other appearance Tosa has made in the story. We don't know much about this Captain Mike Aaron, and I fear we won't ever learn his whole story, but something tells me that man did something to earn Tosa's (twisted) admiration, whether it was fearlessness, not breaking under interrogation, Skill in carrying out actions against her despite very likely being heavily outmatched and inflicting some kind of hindrance, or all the prior in addtion to several other factors. What ever the means, the result here is the same. Tosa has come to see this captain as strong, and therefore someone to desire, love even... if such a word was twisted into a false-simile of itself .
Aaron, I must say you have Brass Balls and Nerves of Steel to be able to keep talking and continue the name, rank and serial number routine with something like Tosa coming into your personal space. Unfortunately, it may be because of this quality is why she's garnered this... feeling for you. You unlucky sonuvabitch . This is doubly confirmed when Tosa calls him, 'my love', I cannot fathom what one must do to earn the 'love' from an entity of hatred and destruction such as Tosa, but being the recipient of such a thing can not and will not bode well for the recipient.
We also get a real good size comparison of Tosa to a normal human. And dear god, combined with everything else given the mental picture is very disturbing for those of us who have... vivid visualization of what we read. The very fact that Tosa very delibertly stroked his cheek with a talon, and in a motion gentle enough to not cut said cheek? Oh dear, that is bad. Because it doesn't take a genius to see what she's getting ready to do... Though I do believe there's more to it than that. Much more, and I shudder to think what exactly it is that is on the menu for tonight. And I do not believe it is him, if it were, Tosa wouldn't have bothered with any of this. No, She has a more insidious plan for Aaron I believe, and I can not help but think back to when we saw from the POV of the Empress, her aid...
Something tells me, Tosa here, is about to make an aid of her own. And all this we see here, is the prep work for that process. The assumed cleanliness of the room? The lack of the normal decay and rot associated with abyssal made/occupied buildings with this one room? The fact the pool of water Tosa was in was far too clear, I dare say perfectly clear and devoid of the blood, viscera and fuel oil normally associated with pools of water occupied by an abyssal, in addition to Tosa's nude state and her... insistence that Aaron goes to a similar unclothed state as well? I think the reason for all that is that its all to ensure some kind of, I will say, magical (unholy?) process isn't interfered with. Afterall there's been hints that close contact with an abyssal causes something to happen to those that have that contact. Like the one Navy Pilot, whom lost his foot (or was it leg?) to a abyssal destroyer during blood week. Ya'll remember how he felt pain or a discomfort of some sort when he was near shipgirls? Maybe what is about to happen with Aaron has some (distant perhaps) relation to that. okay time to finish this all up before I completely go mad from the implications/realizations
THIS HERE. This whole exchange here, makes me firmly believe that the next time we see Captain Aaron... or rather more likely, what use to be him. He'll be the same kind of entity that the Empress's aid is. His reaction to Tosa's question about not dining with her dressed like that. Its clear that what she said to him was not what he had been expecting at all. And how that... perfume-laded water... dripping off of Tosa and onto him. Yes part of me thinks that the winces he makes from each drop is due to how cold said water is. Part of me also thinks that its something else too... something darker. Like perhaps continued exposure to that water and Tosa will change him into something else. Hell the way Tosa commands him to Bathe shortly before tossing him into the water... something tells me he won't be the same when he comes back up as he was when he went in. And what ever it is that's at Tosa table... will either accelerate the process or make it permanent. Or both, both is very much a possibility.
Now I have a possible idea as to why Tosa is doing this. And it deals with a theory I came up with regarding Princess-class Abyssal evolution(least till I can think of better word/phrase for it) when I read the Chapter that gave a better look at the Foresaken Empress and by proxy, her aid.
When an abyssal princess has spilled enough blood to get the Abyssal equivalent of her Kai-Ni, to grow more powerful further still she must set up a sustainable base or have a means to steadily procure supplies of some sort. Following that or perhaps in concert with that effort, they must seek out and find one of the enemy's side, a Human, who has certain characteristics and sets of skills. Perhaps Logistical skills among them. But invariably, someone of Officer ranking. Which if one looked at what the Biggest Navies where right before the Start of the Abyssal war, is good chance its going to be someone from the USN. If for absolutely nothing else, then for the unparalleled logistical capabilities the U.S. Armed Forces have. Anyways, once said princess has come into possession of such an individual, they prepare a ritual of some sort to corrupt, transform that capable individual they have capture into something... inhuman and perform an act of procreation with them. The benefit of bringing about such a metamorphosis in that Human and performing the act, is that by doing so, the abyssal princess in part triggers a change in themselves and they move up ,so to speak, in the abyssal Hierarchy. Thus changing from a Princess to an Empress and with that, and gaining of a aid who had once been a Human they had deemed strong, they become far more powerful and almost exponentially more dangerous than before. The logistical skill and other possible skills that former human once possesed now become available for the newly minted empress to use to her will.
Of course this is just merely a theory, but I certainly believe it is at the very least partially correct in some aspects. The only ones who truly know these answers are JMPer and Old Iron.
Though a horrifying thought I have is that, I do not know if the person the aid used to be, is still inside the monstrosity they would have become. Seeing what happens but completely unable to do anything about it. If that is the case, then I'd put those poor souls in the same camp of suffering the Private First Class Wallace Jenkins is in. Maybe even worse because these unfortunate souls most likely cannot temporarily wrestle control of themselves back from the abyss.
if you've managed to read everything I've written before this point. You'll know that its far too late for the Captain to Kill himself now. I firmly believe His grim, horrifying fate was sealed the moment Tosa threw him into that water.
Now if ya'll excuse me, I know there's a 1/12th of liter left in a bottle of 190 proof Grain Alcohol somewhere in my house, I'm going to go down it all at once. If for nothing else then to assure that I have a dreamless sleep tonight. For otherwise I shall not be able to sleep at all.
*Crazed Corgi Borking*
The second half though... oh boy where the fuck do I begin here? Perhaps at the beginning, and maybe hope my sanity keeps it together to complete the analysis and put forth the new Theories I have and state which ones have been almost all but directly confirmed.
Ah yes, the POV of the those unlucky enough to be a POW of the Abyssals. I remember what happened to that unlucky zoomie (and the others) that had been held captive by Abyssmark's Sister.
This here though, this here tells me several things besides the obvious. Captain Aaron here must've been a POW of Tosa for sometime now, though exactly for how long is yet not known, maybe. And its apparent that they've tried to interrogate him before in the past if his statement of not telling them anything is anything to go by. Though it could be just his military training acting here but the details to me anyways hint that he's done this before, but the manner of his waking tells me it perhaps wasn't in this bunker complex. I do find it very doubtful that this woulda been his first time given that he's come to know that skeletal figure as the guard. Confusion, and perhaps terror at the figures around him would send even officers into a state of panic upon the first meeting. Unless Aaron truly has nerves of steel, unlikely... but if that is so... then perhaps it may yet help explain why what happens latter on happens...
This line here, this one line... its telling. He knows about her, now whether it was from the guards(highly unlikely) or past contact experience. Perhaps as a ship Captain that had prior evaded/had-contact with Tosa in the past; perhaps as part of the forces that have kept the Philippines from being under abyssal control?; remains to be seen. But regardless of the means, he not only knows her name but her appearance as well.
The visual imagine the first half of this alone pains is...unsettling, to say the least. But the second half, when Tosa speaks to Aaron, my first and immediate thoughts were that this was some bizzar kind of interrogation technique. But then as I thought about it, a different thought. A, theory, to why she asks him to bathe came to my mind. I'll expand on that in a little bit. There are details here that I must comment and theorize on before my racing, and rapidly unraveling mind is completely consumed by the Typhoon of thoughts, Theories and implications that are battering it presently.
This small exchange here, is more evidence I believe that Aaron here has been Interrogated before by either Tosa herself before or her minions at the least. It is either that or Tosa has other plans... and I dare say even, feelings for the man. Why though I'm not sure I could pinpoint... and to be honest, I fear exploring that path of thought. Trying to think like one of those monsters for a prolong period of time is no good for one's sanity.
Though the way Tosa approached him, like she was trying to appeal to him... I can't help but think that this isn't a behavior she'd normally do, I saw nothing that carried the usual malice and hatred that I've seen with every other appearance Tosa has made in the story. We don't know much about this Captain Mike Aaron, and I fear we won't ever learn his whole story, but something tells me that man did something to earn Tosa's (twisted) admiration, whether it was fearlessness, not breaking under interrogation, Skill in carrying out actions against her despite very likely being heavily outmatched and inflicting some kind of hindrance, or all the prior in addtion to several other factors. What ever the means, the result here is the same. Tosa has come to see this captain as strong, and therefore someone to desire, love even... if such a word was twisted into a false-simile of itself .
Aaron, I must say you have Brass Balls and Nerves of Steel to be able to keep talking and continue the name, rank and serial number routine with something like Tosa coming into your personal space. Unfortunately, it may be because of this quality is why she's garnered this... feeling for you. You unlucky sonuvabitch . This is doubly confirmed when Tosa calls him, 'my love', I cannot fathom what one must do to earn the 'love' from an entity of hatred and destruction such as Tosa, but being the recipient of such a thing can not and will not bode well for the recipient.
We also get a real good size comparison of Tosa to a normal human. And dear god, combined with everything else given the mental picture is very disturbing for those of us who have... vivid visualization of what we read. The very fact that Tosa very delibertly stroked his cheek with a talon, and in a motion gentle enough to not cut said cheek? Oh dear, that is bad. Because it doesn't take a genius to see what she's getting ready to do... Though I do believe there's more to it than that. Much more, and I shudder to think what exactly it is that is on the menu for tonight. And I do not believe it is him, if it were, Tosa wouldn't have bothered with any of this. No, She has a more insidious plan for Aaron I believe, and I can not help but think back to when we saw from the POV of the Empress, her aid...
Something tells me, Tosa here, is about to make an aid of her own. And all this we see here, is the prep work for that process. The assumed cleanliness of the room? The lack of the normal decay and rot associated with abyssal made/occupied buildings with this one room? The fact the pool of water Tosa was in was far too clear, I dare say perfectly clear and devoid of the blood, viscera and fuel oil normally associated with pools of water occupied by an abyssal, in addition to Tosa's nude state and her... insistence that Aaron goes to a similar unclothed state as well? I think the reason for all that is that its all to ensure some kind of, I will say, magical (unholy?) process isn't interfered with. Afterall there's been hints that close contact with an abyssal causes something to happen to those that have that contact. Like the one Navy Pilot, whom lost his foot (or was it leg?) to a abyssal destroyer during blood week. Ya'll remember how he felt pain or a discomfort of some sort when he was near shipgirls? Maybe what is about to happen with Aaron has some (distant perhaps) relation to that. okay time to finish this all up before I completely go mad from the implications/realizations
THIS HERE. This whole exchange here, makes me firmly believe that the next time we see Captain Aaron... or rather more likely, what use to be him. He'll be the same kind of entity that the Empress's aid is. His reaction to Tosa's question about not dining with her dressed like that. Its clear that what she said to him was not what he had been expecting at all. And how that... perfume-laded water... dripping off of Tosa and onto him. Yes part of me thinks that the winces he makes from each drop is due to how cold said water is. Part of me also thinks that its something else too... something darker. Like perhaps continued exposure to that water and Tosa will change him into something else. Hell the way Tosa commands him to Bathe shortly before tossing him into the water... something tells me he won't be the same when he comes back up as he was when he went in. And what ever it is that's at Tosa table... will either accelerate the process or make it permanent. Or both, both is very much a possibility.
Now I have a possible idea as to why Tosa is doing this. And it deals with a theory I came up with regarding Princess-class Abyssal evolution(least till I can think of better word/phrase for it) when I read the Chapter that gave a better look at the Foresaken Empress and by proxy, her aid.
When an abyssal princess has spilled enough blood to get the Abyssal equivalent of her Kai-Ni, to grow more powerful further still she must set up a sustainable base or have a means to steadily procure supplies of some sort. Following that or perhaps in concert with that effort, they must seek out and find one of the enemy's side, a Human, who has certain characteristics and sets of skills. Perhaps Logistical skills among them. But invariably, someone of Officer ranking. Which if one looked at what the Biggest Navies where right before the Start of the Abyssal war, is good chance its going to be someone from the USN. If for absolutely nothing else, then for the unparalleled logistical capabilities the U.S. Armed Forces have. Anyways, once said princess has come into possession of such an individual, they prepare a ritual of some sort to corrupt, transform that capable individual they have capture into something... inhuman and perform an act of procreation with them. The benefit of bringing about such a metamorphosis in that Human and performing the act, is that by doing so, the abyssal princess in part triggers a change in themselves and they move up ,so to speak, in the abyssal Hierarchy. Thus changing from a Princess to an Empress and with that, and gaining of a aid who had once been a Human they had deemed strong, they become far more powerful and almost exponentially more dangerous than before. The logistical skill and other possible skills that former human once possesed now become available for the newly minted empress to use to her will.
Of course this is just merely a theory, but I certainly believe it is at the very least partially correct in some aspects. The only ones who truly know these answers are JMPer and Old Iron.
Though a horrifying thought I have is that, I do not know if the person the aid used to be, is still inside the monstrosity they would have become. Seeing what happens but completely unable to do anything about it. If that is the case, then I'd put those poor souls in the same camp of suffering the Private First Class Wallace Jenkins is in. Maybe even worse because these unfortunate souls most likely cannot temporarily wrestle control of themselves back from the abyss.
if you've managed to read everything I've written before this point. You'll know that its far too late for the Captain to Kill himself now. I firmly believe His grim, horrifying fate was sealed the moment Tosa threw him into that water.
Now if ya'll excuse me, I know there's a 1/12th of liter left in a bottle of 190 proof Grain Alcohol somewhere in my house, I'm going to go down it all at once. If for nothing else then to assure that I have a dreamless sleep tonight. For otherwise I shall not be able to sleep at all.
*Crazed Corgi Borking*
Harry Leferts
Suave Shadow Cabal Kaiju
That Gibraltar isn't an Abyssal? I mean, for nasty Abyssals I created Research Princess who experimented on her own fleet and humans, creating Abyssal clones of shipgirls. She only failed because the shipgirl memories were too strong and overrode the Abyssal parts as well as forgetting to put something in to stop them from turning on her and leading to her death... only got her to burst out of a subordinate and muse that she'll do better next time and how annoying it is to be killed.
Or Murdina who is literally the head of an Game of Thrones, Scottish Abyssal edition and only really considering allying with humans because it lets her fuck with another Abyssal Princess and annoy the shit out of her.
However, this is off topic for the thread, so... yeah.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
It's only crazy if you miss what technique she's deliberately aping. Or rather, trying to ape.
Turns out, an interrogation is more successful in getting accurate and detailed information, and in general doing what they say, when the prisoner has a strong personal connection with the interrogator. The methods made famous by Hanns Scharff.
You already hit on what's going on:
The key line where Tosa move like a jerky puppet is the clue: She knows she needs to pull a Mata Hari and seduce him to get him to turn over key information, but she has zero context to figure out how. She can't see all the little and large imperfections that make her act so disgusting.
This though, is taking things too much at face value, I feel. Like you say, Tosa is an entity of hate and destruction. It is not capable of love. Lust, desire, but not love. Frankly, the worst interpretation for the scene is that this is that this is the genderflipped version of Imperial Japan's Comfort Women: That the male POWs are raped by female Abyssals.
You do know it's rude to continue an argument, then wrap it up with 'oh hey, we shouldn't be continuing this'. It's a bit disingenuous, makes it look like you're trying to get the last word in. If you want to continue this in PMs, just say that, and leave it at that.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Well the Abyssals have been shown to have a sort of comradery amongst themselves.
And while they are hell-spawned masses of hate, rage, and death, they are still ships at the core. And like ships they probably do want captains/crew. Of course their selection process is just a slight bit different than what the ship-girls do (along with the likely outcome for their 'partner').
Harry Leferts
Suave Shadow Cabal Kaiju
Mainly because at the end I realized that continuing the argument was rude to @theJMPer and just decided to drop it. Alternatively, continue it in the proper thread to be honest.
Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
- Location
- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
Gaaaaaah. There is so much I want to comment on, but I can't because reasons! A glorious post though. Damn good. XD
I will give you more liquor instead. Because you are probably gonna need it.
- Location
- Somewhere between here and there
Tosa's words and apparent love for this human seem much less like love in the traditional sense and more like how Gilgamesh loved Saber in Fate Zero. It's the Captian's very nature(as far as we have seen it) which damns him into becoming a possession of her. It could very well be something else warranting this, but none the less.....
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Considering the two sisters were about to shoot each other to give themselves a shot at survival, I don't think that word's remotely applicable. Subservience, tenuous tolerance, manipulation, these are the terms we should be using. The Abyssals only have humanity and Kanmusu keeping them from tearing each other apart, to be honest.
I can't imagine they'd treat their captains any differently: Disposable assets only kept to further their own ends.
Then you posted that knowing you were being rude, rather than just, say, poke me in PMs or tag me in an invite in your thread. No, I am not interested if this is how you're going to act.
Admiral_Corgi
The Admiral of the PT Boats
- Location
- The Strange land of Florida
oh neptune, zat as good as a durect confrmation for me admiral Iron. Glad ya liked it thou,
thee is more booze in the house, but it seems the shine is takin effect, it was just dinner i had before delayin it.
yer right tho, iz probabs gonna need it if the many other horrible thing ive thought about were right. and shoukd some of the maddening thinghts @Abject Testament Pmd me turn to be true, i'll truly lose meh sanoty then!.
eddit: Its okay Iron, ya can comment on it later on when it donnt spoil upcomin stuff again, just bookark it for later reference
that line fo thought was what i had when i mentioned tosa gaving 'love' for Aaron...
She calls it love, we call it... something something else.
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baofengyu
moonfaced assassin of joy
- Location
- Pain Amplifier
Why do I have the sinking suspicion that our intrepid Captain Aaron is going to go from this...
To this...
Remember kids, don't stick it in the crazy...and ESPECIALLY don't stick it in the eldritch monstrous demonic meat grinder from the Abyss...
To this...
Remember kids, don't stick it in the crazy...and ESPECIALLY don't stick it in the eldritch monstrous demonic meat grinder from the Abyss...
- Location
- Somewhere
Honestly, can't help but wonder if it's the Abyssal version of needing to marry in order to break their limiter.
ijnfleetadmiral
CinC Rengo Kanmusutai
- Location
- Admiral's Bridge, HIJMS Kongo
Well, if Aaron had been held captive by Tosa for a good while, there really isn't much he can tell her, as a lot would've happened since his capture. And I thought Tosa was lovies with her aide...but considering who she is, I guess she can do who-or-whatever she wants.
Anywho, JerJer and Friends will get her eventually...of that, we can be sure.
Also: 15 POUNDS APIECE?! Dayum, Admiral! What the hell is she carrying, the two A-150s?!
Anywho, JerJer and Friends will get her eventually...of that, we can be sure.
Also: 15 POUNDS APIECE?! Dayum, Admiral! What the hell is she carrying, the two A-150s?!
Dirtnap
Kanmusu Affecionado
Amagi and another Amagi class
OR Since Tosa was the planned follow-on ship to Nagato, Tosa and Kaga II
Stahor
BookWorm
- Location
- Russia, Moscow
I doubt that in this particular case death is a release.
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ijnfleetadmiral
CinC Rengo Kanmusutai
- Location
- Admiral's Bridge, HIJMS Kongo
Maybe Kii and Owari (the planned successors to Tosa and Kaga)...IIRC they haven't been mentioned yet, either.Amagi and another Amagi class
OR Since Tosa was the planned follow-on ship to Nagato, Tosa and Kaga II
- Location
- Canada
