Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]
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Selonianth
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Pft. That's half the fun!
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American Submarines weren't really assassins though, Japanese boats were (or at least tried to be.)
Japanese sub doctrine attached the boats to a surface element. The submarines would be tasked with hunting down and killing enemy surface warships (battleships or carriers, ideally.) In practice, this didn't really work. Subs are too slow to hunt down surface warship that's not already mortally wounded, so the handful of kills they garnered were due more to luck than anything repeatable.
American sub doctrine was less structured. Subs would just get a general area of operations to play in, and were told to murderize everything in that general area. This worked much better, because convoys are slower and take less killing to die. Plus, Japan desperately relied on their convoys for... just about everything.
Basically, Japanese subs were assassins, but bad ones. American subs were GTA players.
Yeah.. Who ever bright idea that was is going to be screamed at.
They're lucky it wasn't one of the more aggressive subs like Harder, or a PTSD victim waiting to happen one. They'll probably go shot first, shot some more, and ask question after the "threat" is removed.
Hell... It be almost as bad as having a Brititsh ship at a French Summoning. When both were at this place.
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Ehhh...I'd go so far as to say that IJN sub doctrine was more akin to military snipers. It's very similar, but somewhat different in that it's both a more supporting role and a more targeted one. Assassin generally also carries an implication of precision and specific targeting, much like a hitman, which is more true of IJN sub doctrine than USN.
That said, the other descriptions I almost used for USN subs were "Guerilla" and "Terrorist", which matches their broader doctrine pretty well. Go into an area, hunt down and kill isolated soft targets, cripple logistics and support services, don't get caught. They just accomplished that broader scope with an assassin's skills and methods, relatively speaking.
It's still a bad idea. Like a Darwin Award level bad.
Say instead of Albacore it was say the West Virginia, a battleship. A Pearl Harbor Battleship that had people alive in her for 16 days after the attack who died of starvation and dehydration. Both of which are among the top ten worst ways to go.
You can see why I'll like them to take this minor shock of one of their ships hiding cause one of first thing she saw was one of her enemies standing, remember Albacore was sunk during the war, there. Seemingly waiting for her to pop her head up so it can be blown off.
Say instead of Albacore it was say the West Virginia, a battleship. A Pearl Harbor Battleship that had people alive in her for 16 days after the attack who died of starvation and dehydration. Both of which are among the top ten worst ways to go.
You can see why I'll like them to take this minor shock of one of their ships hiding cause one of first thing she saw was one of her enemies standing, remember Albacore was sunk during the war, there. Seemingly waiting for her to pop her head up so it can be blown off.
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Albacore: I agree with him. But there's the major difference that we didn't, you know, suck at it.
Mostly, I just wanted to do something interesting for Albacore.
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Well, yeah. Kinda hard to sneak up and backstab something that can avoid you simply by accidentally sailing in the other direction, faster than you can go. They also set themselves up for failure by picking the absolutely worst targets possible, given that any BB or CV would be at the heart of a formation of lighter ships, many of whom were designed for sub wrangling.
Weren't IJN subs less reliable or well-built? I'd swear I remember that a few of the IJN subs actually sank with all hands due to mechanical failures or something. The only major advantage the IJN subs had were their torpedoes, which unlike USN torps actually worked more than half the time.
Unless I'm misremembering, anyways. There may have also been something about diesel vs. electric engines, which I cannot recall too well.
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Sure it's going to be interesting. In the Chinese sense. And I'm looking forward to the reactions.
If I'm coming off as jerkesh sorry. In they army they try to pound into your skull to not to take unnecessary risks. Having an Ex enemy of someone who you are trying to summon in the line of sight during said summoning?
Who here knows what "CHECKFIRE" means? Cause I'll be screaming it as sure I as I realize who was around. Kinda doesn't help that Admiral Williams realize this with the Taffies. So that hitting the "someone breaking a major regulation" button...
obssesednuker
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Which omake is it an omake too and who wrote it? Old Iron's?
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Nah, you're right on the money. Japanese boats were slow-turning, slow-diving fatasses who couldn't go very deep before they imploded. American submarines were more maneuverable and--crucially--could dive much deeper. (I think about twice as deep, but it's past midnight and I'm not certain.) About the only advantage the IJN had was the admittedly awesome Long Lance torpedo, but only because it's literally the one thing they didn't manage to somehow screw up.
Hey, "interesting" might be a bad thing to experience, but it makes for great drama! And you have to remember that this is written from Albacore's perspective, and she's stayed submerged the whole time. Her view of the surface is very limited, since she basically just went "Hmm... surface. Oh, sendai! Hide!" There's more going on topside that she didn't see, which I'll elaborate on during the next installment.
And Albie's not quite as potentially dangerous as the taffies. She might be just as murderlicious, but she's also a submarine. Being calm, gathering all the facts, and planning your strike with cold precision is what subs do. Destroyers just go full ham.
This is an Omake written by me that's roughly tied in with A Certain Lady by Old Iron.
obssesednuker
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Man, we're really getting into Omakeception here: we have an omake of an omake which is written by the original story that the original omake is an omake of. I'll post it on FFN tomorrow mor-*looks at clock*-later this afternoon. Be keeping my shipping goggles handy as the situation with albacore develops, though.
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This explains so much. Also, it should be a running gag with Sturgeon that she gets teased about "losing her virginity to that Japanese merchant ship". To which she (angrily) replies (and insists on replying) that she was the one giving. And everyone pretends not to believe her.
Either that or she likes to boast about how she lost her virginity with a Japanese convoy, only for someone to point out how none of her torps actually did anything.
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obssesednuker
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I know. We should totally milk that for all it's worth. Heh... that basically means Sturgeon is the American version of Iku. In fact, that is my head canon now. Now to determine who the British, German, Russian, and so-on versions are...
Also, I keep wanting to type out "Stewart" or "Steward" instead of "Sturgeon" for some goddamn reason.
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Old Iron
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Albacore shows up! Huzzah!
Oh, she's going to be having a right fun time. Being human-ikinda-yes-ish now. And I rather like the design you've got for her. It fits and the fact she had her crew looking for manuals was really funny. XD
And a Sendai-class just sitting there? That's just asking for trouble. Lucky that Albie's the patient type.
Oh god. The innuendo. Even Jersey would have problems with that level of it. XD
Iku: *giggles lewdly*
Eventually the omakeception will generate its own omakes, which will create an infinite loop of omake power. XD
Poor Tenryuu Oh poor Albacore:lol when Akatsuki sisters think you are picking on their Momma/ Big sis.
Oh poor Albacore:lol when Akatsuki sisters think you are picking on their Momma/ Big sis.
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I propose the Boxing Day 2015 Submarine Reclassification, where all SS-class vessels are redesignated SSL for Lewd Submarine.
CompassJimbo
Where’s Your North?
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When in public, mind you. I've… heard things…
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Albacore: You know, I'd like to point out I haven't done anything lewd! Other than be suprised that I'm a girl instead of a submarine, and be slightly upset that my rack's not anything special. That's not lewd! That's honest confusion at suddenly becoming a girl. I'll bet you did the very same thing when you came back.
Icywinter
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San Fran : Haha... whoops. That might've been her and I they were talking about...
San Fran : I don't want to talk about what happened when I came back. Yes, I was confused, but that took a back seat to what I was feeling at the time.
And for the record, I didn't really care about being topheavy, and I'm really glad I can't capsize in a weak breeze, so I'm fine with the fact that I'm not stacked.
... But I seriously want an upgrade to my powerplant. How on Earth did the Russians fit a 130 thousand bhp powerplant into something the size of a destroyer?
I want that.
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obssesednuker
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Don't let Ooi find out.
You're not fooling anyone Albacore! I mean! All submarines are innately lewd! Their very mission requires stealth, like a stalker! Or a panty-thief! Or something! Oh sure, some may try to hide it but that barrier will inevitably break. Look at U-511!
Icywinter
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San Fran : Ooi was there, and let me tell you, that girl has some magic hands. Torpedo cruisers... they're full of surprises... <3
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Louisiana: They're Russians, it probably involved Vodka.