Kentucky: Don't know what Jersey thinks, but for me? I'm told that sort of talk isn't polite.
Heh, QM 2 is bigger than Musashi but can maintain 30 knots long enough to cross the Atlantic. I think that's something a runner like Jersey would appreciate :D
She's an ocean liner, thank you very much :p Seriously though, she's not a cruise ship, she's actually designed for oceanic travel which entailed some compromises in her design.
 
Kentucky: Speed we can appreciate but how should I say this nicely? Modern Cruise Ships: A lot of flotation for girls with very little to do but 'show people a good time'. At least the old Liners had honest work.
 
Jersey: Yeah, and? They're fatasses. All lard and no muscle. C'mon, you people don't seriously think I'd be jealous, do you?
... in hindsight, that was a dumb idea.
Kentucky: Speed we can appreciate but how should I say this nicely? Modern Cruise Ships: A lot of flotation for girls with very little to do but 'show people a good time'. At least the old Liners had honest work.
They just haven't had to transport troops like the old ones did. We have cargo/passenger airplanes for that now.
Jersey: I never claimed my ass was the biggest. Just that it's the best.

Jersey: They're faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
OK, your first one was better.
 
Jersey: Yeah, and? They're fatasses. All lard and no muscle. C'mon, you people don't seriously think I'd be jealous, do you?
Kentucky: Speed we can appreciate but how should I say this nicely? Modern Cruise Ships: A lot of flotation for girls with very little to do but 'show people a good time'. At least the old Liners had honest work.
They just haven't had to transport troops like the old ones did. We have cargo/passenger airplanes for that now.
Now you've made Queen Mary 2 sad :p I'm not kidding, she's actually an Ocean Liner, not a cruise ship. She was expressly designed for high speed transoceanic crossings and has the features of an Ocean Liner rather than a cruise ship, and she makes frequent and regular transoceanic crossings. I mean, they cost an arm and a leg so they're not really for getting from point A to B cheaply, but she still pulls the same role that her predecessors did for decades.

Now actual cruise ships, yes, those are fatties. Or at least plump :p
Montana: We have our ways.
Montana was actually ordered...
 
Kentucky: QM2, do note I specified Cruise ships. Ocean Liners have honest work and I highly respect your ancestors like Queen Elizabeth,Britannic, or especially Olympic! Gotta give her props for running down a U-Boat like she did! That was badass!
 
Kentucky: Was glad to finally be of use. Sitting around for a decade listening to people talk about they might finish you. They might turn you into the world's first guided missile battleship. (Nothing so sweet as those Tomahawks my sisters got in the 80s) And then... nah! Not worth the money! That hurt.
 
40mm Bofors, used by almost everybody. In Japan the Type 5 40mm/60, actually had slightly better range then the American 40mm. Was to start production in 1943/44, but a lack of resources, an earthquake, followed by visits from the US Army Air Corp put paid to getting it produced during the war.

Luckily this is Kancolle, Equipment that was developed but not deployed can be put on ships, so replace all the tri 25mm with twin type 5, and the Twin 25mm with a single Type 5, and call it done. A massive increase in the effectives of Japanese Naval Med and Close in AA Fire.
Well, if we're going with that route, then all American warships should be able to equip themselves with 3"-50cals. These reached the prototype stage before the end of WW2, and the development was on the fast-track anyway. They became common fittings on a number of US warships in the decades that followed. A small number are still in service aboard US warships that were sold to foreign countries.

To give you an idea of how terrifyingly effective these guns were/are at AA: they are auto-loading, automatic-firing, auto-tracking, radar-directed 3" cannons firing VT-fuzed shells at a rate of 45-50 rounds per minute, all in the same size as a quad-Bofors-40mm package (albeit heavier). A single hit could stop-kill a kamikaze. And the best part? They came in dual turrets. (They also came in single-mount turrets.)

With a muzzle-velocity of 823 meters per second, a range of 13.3 kilometers, a range-ceiling of over 30,000 feet, and a barrel life of 2,050 rounds (and magazines that carried over half that many rounds), these weapons were the be-all, end-all of WW2-era AA, and vastly better than anything but the 5"-38 DP, radar-directed turrets of American warships.

It's not just American Radar Master Race; it's American AA Master Race, too.
 
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Well, if we're going with that route, then all American warships should be able to equip themselves with 3"-50cals. These reached the prototype stage before the end of WW2, and the development was on the fast-track anyway. They became common fittings on a number of US warships in the decades that followed. A small number are still in service aboard US warships that were sold to foreign countries.

To give you an idea of how terrifyingly effective these guns were at AA: they are auto-loading, automatic-firing, auto-tracking, radar-directed 3" cannons firing VT-fuzed shells at a rate of 45-50 rounds per minute, all in the same size as a quad-Bofors-40mm package (albeit heavier). A single hit could stop-kill a kamikaze. And the best part? They came in dual turrets. (They also came in single-mount turrets.)

With a muzzle-velocity of 823 meters per second, a range of 13.3 kilometers, and a range-ceiling of over 30,000 feet, and a barrel life of 2,050 rounds (and magazines that carried over half that many rounds), these weapons were the be-all, end-all of WW2-era AA, and vastly better than anything but the 5"-38 DP, radar-directed turrets of American warships.

It's not just American Radar Master Race; it's American AA Master Race, too.
Heh, no other nation would've been able to sustain those things in heavy combat other than the US; the rounds used required tons of cartridges that was beyond the capability of others to actually manufacture, especially with the rate those things fired. There's a video of them out there.... Give me a second, I'm going to dig it up.

EDIT: Found it

You have to marvel at the 4:30 minute mark when the shell casings start piling up on the deck.
 
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I love the first 8in salvo they fire in that video. All but one of the guns ripple off in rapid succession. A pause. Then Mr. Fumbles McStupid at the end realities what's going on and finally fires.
Yet still misses 10% of the enemy. (going by kamikaze success rates, the late-war opponent for these newer AA systems we're talking about.)
90% kill rate's still pretty solid. And pitting them against Kamikaze isn't completely fair. They're much harder to stop than convential air attacks, since Kamikaze are basically just misses with an unorthodox terminal guidance system. (And Abyssals haven't been deploying Kamikazes)
 
I wouldn't replace all the 40s with the 3inchers, only three quarters.

Why? Because cause at the range of OHSHIT! the 40mms were better since they throw out more lead faster.

And planes coming into OHSHIT range happened alot. Even in late war.

The bested Active Defense, like AA, is layered. You have the long range 5 inchers to pick them off early, then the 3 inchers cover the medium range plus some of the long, and the forties can cover both the close and medium.

Give all the guns VT fuzes, which they make now for the forties, and you can throw up a thick ass wall of high explosive lead.
 
Kentucky: Speed we can appreciate but how should I say this nicely? Modern Cruise Ships: A lot of flotation for girls with very little to do but 'show people a good time'. At least the old Liners had honest work.
So... the ocean liners did good honest work, but modern cruise ships are floating prostitutes?

...actually, I can see that. After all, they sure as hell LOOK like hotels sitting on the water with No Visible Means of Support...:rofl:
 
To be fair, The Sacrementos have the Heart of an Iowa (and absurd speed for a non nuke steam boat).

Though that makes the huge oil tankers ala Seawise Giant or god forbid Prelude LNG World Devistators/Resource Extraction Princesses. Massive objects that turn the resources of the Earth into easy to use fuel/gasses.
 
Kentucky: Odd for never having been born, Illinois and I technically being the two Iowas who truly can be said to have had children. Typical kids. You give them your heart and they leave you broken on the slips...
 
I wouldn't replace all the 40s with the 3inchers, only three quarters.

Why? Because cause at the range of OHSHIT! the 40mms were better since they throw out more lead faster.

And planes coming into OHSHIT range happened alot. Even in late war.

The bested Active Defense, like AA, is layered. You have the long range 5 inchers to pick them off early, then the 3 inchers cover the medium range plus some of the long, and the forties can cover both the close and medium.

Give all the guns VT fuses, which they make now for the forties, and you can throw up a thick ass wall of high explosive lead.
That's a tad nonsensical. The 3-inchers were specifically designed because the 40mm Bofors were not sufficient for reliably stop-killing kamikazes before impact. Additionally, the 3-inchers put out an amazing amount of firepower at an impressive speed--almost one VT-fuzed shell per second--at a significantly greater range.

And besides, if you have to engage kamikazes at close range, it's already a bad situation. The whole idea is to kill them in their tracks before they can get close. The 3-inchers were, by design, weapons capable of killing enemy kamikazes before they could even get into close range (unless they swarmed you with absurd numbers simultaneously, in which case, Bofors would be even less helpful). The 3-inchers are still very effective at all but the closest of ranges, but if a kamikaze manages to get that close, it's pretty much too late for anything but praying they miss.

EDIT: Also, they couldn't make VT-fused shells for the Bofors. It was too small.

In 1944-1945, the USN found that their 20 mm Oerlikons and 40 mm Bofors batteries were ineffective in stopping Japanese Kamikaze attacks. Only the 5"/38 (12.7 cm) fired a round large enough to kill-stop a determined attacker and this weapon was too heavy to use in the numbers necessary. This problem led to an accelerated program to develop an intermediate-caliber weapon that could fire a VT fuzed shell. The weapon chosen was the standard 3"/50 (7.62 cm) Mark 22 which was used on many Destroyer Escorts and auxiliaries built during the latter part of World War II. This was the smallest-caliber weapon which could still use the VT fuzes available at the time.
 
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