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[X] Plan: Soft Power
Attempting to Shatter the Skies: An Ace Combat Plan Quest
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[X] Plan: Soft Power
grimely
Twink Death Sufferer
Honestly it's debatable if the IUN is as widespread as the IRL UN, partly this is because it didn't exist until AC7 but even within that game it's presented more as "Osea and vassals" than a true global force. Closer to NATO, really, but they already made a NATO expy with UTO. The Deep Lore is honestly so weird, there's a WWI - the Osean War - and vague references to a war in the '40s, but nothing with the impact of WWII, meaning that the entire institutional network of soft power to avoid regional conflicts probably doesn't exist. Which, honestly, tracks with how frequent and destructive wars in the setting are.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Yeah. In our world, after the insane destructiveness of World War One the major powers tried to put together a diplomatic structure to keep it from happening again, but failed because three big powers went fascist and a fourth was expelled from the Imperial Boys' Club for being communist.
After this caused World War Two and nukes were invented, everyone was even more determined to prevent future world wars, so much so that they were even willing to let a communist country back in the clubhouse.
Strangereal just doesn't seem to have that going on, even though some of its contemporary wars during the game era are clearly approaching the destructiveness of the World Wars were in our world.
After this caused World War Two and nukes were invented, everyone was even more determined to prevent future world wars, so much so that they were even willing to let a communist country back in the clubhouse.
Strangereal just doesn't seem to have that going on, even though some of its contemporary wars during the game era are clearly approaching the destructiveness of the World Wars were in our world.
grimely
Twink Death Sufferer
I think a big part of it is that the USSR expy is just on its own continent and no one thinks too hard about it. Geography and demography don't really make too much sense here. Verusa is basically undetailed except for Yuktobania, Anea is Scandinavia, Osea is America but Belka is clearly Germany, Usea is Europe but also Japan.
The weirdness with Usea at leaat has the excuse that it was envisioned as a fictional continent in the real world, located in the Pacific Ocean, which had been colonized by both European and Asian powers, and they never bothered changing that cultural blend after inventing Strangereal.
Basically though, don't pay too much attention.
The weirdness with Usea at leaat has the excuse that it was envisioned as a fictional continent in the real world, located in the Pacific Ocean, which had been colonized by both European and Asian powers, and they never bothered changing that cultural blend after inventing Strangereal.
Basically though, don't pay too much attention.
KnightDisciple
Brotherhood. Unity. Peace.
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[X] Plan: Soft Power
Honestly works fine for me.
Honestly works fine for me.
...The Brotherhood of Nod (if a less evil version of it)...in Ace Combat.
...That is so wonderfully fitting. They are right at home in this crazy World.
This Quest has my attention.
...That is so wonderfully fitting. They are right at home in this crazy World.
This Quest has my attention.
KnightDisciple
Brotherhood. Unity. Peace.
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- Midwest, USA
Don't forget that they're in charge of GDI!
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- Mid-Atlantic
Hydroponic farming project: Peas through power!
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[X] Plan: Soft Power
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- Mid-Atlantic
Of course, we may get an exaggerated sense of how big these territories are, but that's kind of inevitable when we don't have anything but this one Mercator-projection map of Strangereal to work from.
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Eh, true. But if I had nigh-unlimited energy, I'd probably try to draw a polar projection map of the continent. There's enough information there.
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Asmodemus
Subversive Element
I've got another idea for a superweapon. We make a giant huge black bug-like tower that emits a huge gigantic fuck-off energy shield. That powers up for a limited time out of an energy reserve it depletes rapidly as it's active.
And that main tower can then have smaller emitters connecting through an energy-transferring laser along a chain, allowing us to spread along our turf and ensure defense as we make giant hubs, allowing us to cut off sectors and claim as ours, invaders dying when they hit the shield along with it blocking anything else.
In short, we become the videogame Perimeter but less mangled in translation.
We're probably gonna make some kinda giant laser really I imagine. Maybe like a giant cross between Kane's Wrath MCV and Specter with a huge laser. Or like the Kreon from Vanquish that's a battleship that transforms into a four legged walking fortress with a huge laser on top.
Also, kudos to GM for world-building, that was neat stuff to read.
And that main tower can then have smaller emitters connecting through an energy-transferring laser along a chain, allowing us to spread along our turf and ensure defense as we make giant hubs, allowing us to cut off sectors and claim as ours, invaders dying when they hit the shield along with it blocking anything else.
In short, we become the videogame Perimeter but less mangled in translation.
We're probably gonna make some kinda giant laser really I imagine. Maybe like a giant cross between Kane's Wrath MCV and Specter with a huge laser. Or like the Kreon from Vanquish that's a battleship that transforms into a four legged walking fortress with a huge laser on top.
Also, kudos to GM for world-building, that was neat stuff to read.
grimely
Twink Death Sufferer
As a heads up I'm pretty sick so I don't know when the next update will be. I have gotten enough into the groove of things that I've finally installed AC7 and started playing through it. The next vote will be superweapon design, so please do feel free to brainstorm what you want so I can make a framework broad enough to support it - the above post got me thinking on how best to model it and was very helpful.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
The classic superweapons of choice in Ace Combat are either giant lasers, or giant railguns. Leasath shook it up with its Shock Cannon and SWBMs which were basically glorified fuel-air explosives ignited by meson discharges.
That, and nukes, but nukes are the boring option so I say boo to that.
As the GDI, our mission is literally in the name, so defensive options that only cover our part of the continent (like energy shields) isn't really viable. We need offense-oriented options to shoot down Ulysses, and later on, the militaries of neighboring nations.
Since we have the world's biggest heatsink, the ability to build under the ice, and Belka's laser technology, it does seem like the natural option is a static emplacement like Excalibur. Mounting it on a vehicle like a land battleship, flying fortress, or submersible aircraft carrier while very Ace Combat, means the giant laser becomes a much more complex project and doesn't take advantage of the artic as a heatsink. We should save that idea for later once we have our static laser in place.
That, and nukes, but nukes are the boring option so I say boo to that.
As the GDI, our mission is literally in the name, so defensive options that only cover our part of the continent (like energy shields) isn't really viable. We need offense-oriented options to shoot down Ulysses, and later on, the militaries of neighboring nations.
Since we have the world's biggest heatsink, the ability to build under the ice, and Belka's laser technology, it does seem like the natural option is a static emplacement like Excalibur. Mounting it on a vehicle like a land battleship, flying fortress, or submersible aircraft carrier while very Ace Combat, means the giant laser becomes a much more complex project and doesn't take advantage of the artic as a heatsink. We should save that idea for later once we have our static laser in place.
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Could we pull an Armageddon and land on the asteroid and blow it into smaller pieces?