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Arch-Demon's Eternal Game: Aeon Edition, The Turtle Chronicles

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A Harvest of Blood // Game End // Human, Demon, Fiend victory
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    • As the last elf fades into the west, the remaining survivors look upon each other a weapon in one's clutches, the others with splayed claws. It was a Knight's duty to slay any infernal being in their path, and both of the rival infernalists were tasked with duties to their individual Arch-beings to make sure every soul was properly reaped... perhaps... that could be arranged, death was a great unifier. The discussion was short as each survivor agreed to the terms of the last braw.

    A three-way brawl danced across the island, a battle that the sagas would be proud to call their own, but alas none would record its glory, and then each of them left this mortal coil, almost in unison.

    The Arch Beings bickered as they shared an equal share of souls, except for the Arch-Turtle who sank below the Ocean's depths to wash the blood from their carapace... from their mind.
     
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    • @hailcapital and @Scia, I'm sorry how that stuff on D4 went down. You're right that it wasn't exactly fair to you, giving town your identity although they declined the offer. It's just you were the only faction we had some kind of leverage on and if we hadn't presented that fact, I don't think you would have agreed on the deal. You could have run the clock and killed me, denying anything.

    And I'm sorry that this was a big reason for how the game turned out in the end.
     
    Well, up the very last bit, this was a lot of fun. And that really couldn't have been helped.

    @ComiTurtle and @Terrabrand thanks for this. The work that went into it is very obvious, and it was great fun for weeks, when I really needed some fun.

    @Nictis sorry for riding you so much. You reacted so strongly to my accusations, I tried to use them to suck the air out of the room and distract you from having caught @Tykan out. It didn't work for long.

    And thanks Tykan and @Shalmoa you guys were super cool to play with, and you both did a great job. Especially Shalmoa being a relative newbie did a great job.

    @hailcapital and @Scia you guys played a great game. I was honestly convinced Scia was a Knight up till you revealed otherwise.

    @Byzantine sorry so much of the game wasn't fun for you. You really deserved to win after all you went through, and I really wasn't going to go through with the plan. You were still a lot of fun to play with.

    @Wiadi and @Zaealix did a great job as Knights. Some of your play those last few nights was really clever. And I still love Zaealix's Knight avatar. I almost felt a twing of regret while helping to orchestrate his death. Almost.

    Thank you to everybody else who came back or joined in after the hiatus, it was a lot of fun. Special thanks/apologies to @Cyricubed who we killed so that he couldn't tell what item we stole from him.

    This was really a fun game and an interesting experience. I hope to see you all at the next one.
     
    Have to agree with Meso. It was great playing with you two in a team @mesonoxian and @Shalmoa. You two did really well. Especially for your first game Shalmoa.

    A bit of actual feedback:
    Having played both factions in short order, I think you have to change the demons a bit. Imo them knowing their pick order doesn't contribute much with an open sack.
    Fiends are pretty strong, especially in a game as crazy item-wise as this one. With more single-use items, their strength shrinks a bit over time but with two firestarters, they stay strong over the whole time. In contrast the demons "only" have two strongmankills.
    All in all, the rolls were pretty decent after all. The two Knights were pretty bad for us, demons getting the other Staffs as well, as one can see from N3. We were robbed of our best chance to kill a Knight pretty fast by Nictis.
     
    Thanks, @ComiTurtle , @Terrabrand this was a lot of fun.

    Thanks for being my teammate @Scia, and sorry I screwed things up for us at the end by revealing you, especially since we were pretty much set up for the win if I hadn't.

    @Zaealix and @Wiadi, you did great with the knight role. I was told by Comi that if we actually had carried out our N4 plan I would have been the one strongmanned, (which I'm pretty sure would have led to a town victory in short order).

    @Shalmoa you did great as a fellow newbie. @Tykan you did great as well, I honestly thought you were town until the Demon's Bane went off.

    @Nictis even if it wasn't deliberate the softclaim that you had some sort of protection had me in fits deciding whether or not to NK you. You were our preferred target the first two nights, except we were sure you had a Coin.

    In the two Knight setup there does feel like a scarcity of strongman kills for both scum teams. That might have been exacerbated by our play (wasting a strongman early and Nictis nailing Shalmoa), but man, it just didn't feel like there was a way to deal with them other than getting two strongman hits.
     
    hailcapital said:
    @Nictis even if it wasn't deliberate the softclaim that you had some sort of protection had me in fits deciding whether or not to NK you. You were our preferred target the first two nights, except we were sure you had a Coin.
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    *sips wine*
    I'll recommend that everyone reads deadchat if possible, it was very active and fairly interesting besides. Definitely gonna be interested in reading the other various chats when I get the chance. All in all, good game everyone.

    @mesonoxian You probably do need to work on your scum arguments. Except for that time you got hardlocked on me as Town you usually are better about recognizing when your arguments just don't work to support each other.
    @Shalmoa You had a really good first showing, and I enjoyed seeing your contributions to deadchat. The way you used hail as cover would have been pretty good if hail got lynched first... And was Town. :V
    @QTesseract Sorry you got killed so quickly. Better luck next time?
    @hailcapital I'm mostly sorry that I didn't really put in the effort to lock you as scum to everyone else honestly. I knew you were scum from Day 1 but then I just always had someone else to lynch instead. :V
     
    I'm glad I joined in on this one, thanks ComiTurtle, Terrabrand.

    @Tykan and @mesonoxian: it was a lot of fun playing with you two too.

    Shout out to @Zaealix for having the other blue mirror shard, I also agree that you played really well.

    Special thanks to @Nictis for giving me a particularly memorable Day 2 experience, helpful advice, and plenty of incentive to try to avoid that happening again in the future.

    Also apologies to QTesseract from the fiends. We were aiming at Happerry.
     
    Shalmoa said:
    I'm glad I joined in on this one, thanks ComiTurtle, Terrabrand.

    @Tykan and @mesonoxian: it was a lot of fun playing with you two too.

    Shout out to @Zaealix for having the other blue mirror shard, I also agree that you played really well.

    Special thanks to @Nictis for giving me a particularly memorable Day 2 experience, helpful advice, and plenty of incentive to try to avoid that happening again in the future.

    Also apologies to QTesseract from the fiends. We were aiming at Happerry.
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    I noticed, but that's the entire point of the coin. Letting you freelybfire at a choice of targets is hardly better. Anyway, someone had to take that shot, it just happened to be me. No big deal.
     
    Nictis said:
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    I'll recommend that everyone reads deadchat if possible, it was very active and fairly interesting besides. Definitely gonna be interested in reading the other various chats when I get the chance. All in all, good game everyone.

    @mesonoxian You probably do need to work on your scum arguments. Except for that time you got hardlocked on me as Town you usually are better about recognizing when your arguments just don't work to support each other.
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    For what it is worth, only the first time was legitimate scumhunting. The second time was solely to draw you into defending yourself (and thus taking pressure off Tykan). Well reasoned arguments aren't as useful for that as ones that contradict each other, because the latter make a more dramatic (if actually much weaker) case and take more time and effort to dispel. My goal was never to turn town on you, it was to bleed energy from the Tykan wagon to redirect onto Reliable.
     
    Then reliable dropped out and the whole thing swung right back around. XD
     
    Sorry, @Shadell, and @OriginalName. I had spent days walking a tightrope to convince them to get me to today, where any sane interpretation of the rules guaranteed my win. I react poorly to the rules being changed on me and was not willing to continue.

    @mesonoxian I completely believe you. Unfortunately if you didn't take the deal the most likely outcome was us mutual killing the next night. Scia wasn't active enough for me to try to convince her of anything and I wasn't going to talk to an empty chair.
     
    Byzantine said:
    Sorry, @Shadell, and @OriginalName. I had spent days walking a tightrope to convince them to get me to today, where any sane interpretation of the rules guaranteed my win. I react poorly to the rules being changed on me and was not willing to continue.

    @mesonoxian I completely believe you. Unfortunately if you didn't take the deal the most likely outcome was us mutual killing the next night. Scia wasn't active enough for me to try to convince her of anything and I wasn't going to talk to an empty chair.
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    No worries Byz you got shoved in a tough spot because I didn't use my item aggressivly enough and Shadell got killed by the Knight who picked in my view the strangest protect target possible and got punished for making the shot I had hoped one of you were going to take (Full disclosure I almost made the exact same play).

    I have enough distance to be able to go 'its just a game I'm not really mad' but you've had 2 weeks more realtime dealing with it so I think it's completely understandable.

    I think what I'm most salty about is that I figured out we were all reg elves even before Shalmoa flipped and I never had the chance to do cool teamplay stuff in thread!!! I pickedup the amulet so elves could control a vote damnit!!!!
     
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    Yeah, you put in a ton of work carrying elves @Byzantine winning or losing was basically entirely you either way, so no place for us to get upset really. I didn't think Reliable was likely to be a fiend, but my hope was that killing him would tell town there were elf(s) and, since killing a town target is pretty town-aligned, show that said elf(s) were broadly willing to play ball with town, which'd both help narrow things down a good deal without depending on reveals and eliminate a target that I worried might sap too much attention the following Day as well.

    Overall a very weird game. Like, we ended up in either a spot where we had a powerful position to push for an aggressive win OR we had a great shot at a win with either scum team and hurting either early wouldn't be that helpful when an extra vig might swing the game to them at the end. I'd have played a lot more openly D3 since we knew where we stood, but then both me and Ori died immediately.
     
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    Hm. Well that was a rather disappointing end. Also I'll echo Nictis about encouraging everyone to read the dead chat when they get a chance, and to give a few off the top of my head feedback for other players.

    @Zaealix You did good for your first game, and my primary feedback would be to work on trying to keep the dialogue going in a way that benefits town, but that comes with experience. Also work on trying to come up with reasons for your night actions, and even if they're wrong merely having one serves as a source for feedback, which gives experience.

    @hailcapital I'll be honest your day one post about the FS, and various other things had me debating whether, or not to go after you before Nictis made his post. Like I'm fairly certain I would've been able to get you lynched day one instead of myself, but I'm here to have fun, and trying to lynch someone at the 11th hour who you haven't even pursued as suspect at all for the entire day is the exact opposite of fun imo.

    @mesonoxian Your reason for joining my lynch train on Nictis was uh not a particularly good one, and something I noted down as suspect.

    @Byzantine I was hoping at least the elves would survive, which based upon deadchat was intended to fulfill the human win condition if all scum are dead. Well that was the intention anyways, but obviously not the wording, and this will hopefully be corrected in future games.

    @Shalmoa Dead chat was fun, and while I've mentioned some before the obvious mistake you made was at the end of day one.

    @Nictis So going after you is apparently a pretty good way to generate day one activity, but I need to work on my exit strategy, or just read the OP to realize post lynch posts with game value aren't an option. Ah well live, and learn I suppose. :V
     
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    @Byzantine I was hoping at least the elves would survive, which based upon deadchat was intended to fulfill the human win condition if all scum are dead. Well that was the intention anyways, but obviously not the wording, and this will hopefully be corrected in future games
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    The wording worked for that and that was clearly the intent, but Wiadi drove through the hole that the slightly ambiguous wording to allow for that and Comi let him. I'm still quite peeved about that.
     
    OriginalName said:
    and Shadell got killed by the Knight who picked in my view the strangest protect target possible
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    For the record, the idea with this was me trying to play wine around Scum's probable Coin(s). I figured that they'd expect Reliable's slot to be near-guaranteed not to draw protection, so it'd be a good place to move a kill target who they wanted out from under a hypothetical Staff/Knight/Cage.
     
    Yun said:
    @Zaealix You did good for your THIRD game, and my primary feedback would be to work on trying to keep the dialogue going in a way that benefits town, but that comes with experience. Also work on trying to come up with reasons for your night actions, and even if they're wrong merely having one serves as a source for feedback, which gives experience.
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    Fixed, because I participated in Debutante and Nictis's Game Set Mafia before coming here. (Fourth if you count the aborted original Comi-game.)
    Fun to know that I read as maximum newb instead of someone who's actually gotten their feet wet :V.
     
    Zaealix said:
    Fixed, because I participated in Debutante and Nictis's Game Set Mafia before coming here. (Fourth if you count the aborted original Comi-game.)
    Fun to know that I read as maximum newb instead of someone who's actually gotten their feet wet :V.
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    You really did great.

    You have no idea how much I freaked out when you accused me off being scum before I realized it was a meme vote.

    "How does he know?!?"
     
    I very nearly roped and killed Scia during the night, which would have led to a very quick death once Byz turned out to be an Elf, he sides with Wiadi and I am out.
     
    mesonoxian said:
    I still think you could have won. If you stuck with Scia and voted me out, Scia kills Wiadi overnight, you guys win.
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    That would have required relying on Scia going along with the original plan and us being the first two to vote, and Scia was just too quiet for me to want to deal with yelling at the air with no idea if it had any hope. Particularly given the mood that that bullshit instantly put me into.
     
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