Anderson Quest: Killing Vampires and Werewolves and Leprechauns (Hellsing/Bloodborne)
- Thread starter Tricia
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Nanimani
Probably listening to music
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Location
- Chicago
–I always assumed the Art of Quickening was a martial technique Gehrman knew, akin to a Ninja flash step or Wuxia-style leaping; derived from training instead of Blood Echoes, Runes or the like. That being said, it may take a long training montage to learn the Art, longer than the time-span of the quest.
–I agree that Anderson would never chow down on those Umbilical Cords. My thought was this: could the Umbilical Cords be used to break Gehrman's shackles?
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It's important to note that, like all games, Souls have a lore and game play disconnect. DLC bosses are always going to be harder than the main game, even if the main game bosses are more powerful in lore, because DLC is made assuming that the players have already beaten the main game and want something more challenging.
Harder in gameplay is not necessarily more powerful in lore, and vice versa. The Moon Presence is unquestionably the most powerful being (that we directly encounter) in the game, as evidenced by its shitload of blood echoes (more than triple the Orphan), having literally enslaved Gehrman, and having to gather multiple macguffins to not simply get absorbed into its being on touching you, but it's not a particularly hard boss fight, especially if you have a full set of vials.
For another example of this, see Gravelord Nito, who is one of the easiest bosses in the entire Soulsborne series despite being one of the 3-4 most powerful entities in his setting by lore, or High Lord Wolnir, who does less damage slamming you with a holy sword the size of a ship's mast than regular, human size late game mobs do with a regular weapons, which makes no sense except as a game mechanic.
As Tricia is basing this more on lore and what a particular impact should "logically" do - see Amygdala pulping Anderson pretty much every time it landed a hit and hits having more consequences and results than "number goes down," I'd be wary of "harder game boss= more powerful in a prose setting."
Harder in gameplay is not necessarily more powerful in lore, and vice versa. The Moon Presence is unquestionably the most powerful being (that we directly encounter) in the game, as evidenced by its shitload of blood echoes (more than triple the Orphan), having literally enslaved Gehrman, and having to gather multiple macguffins to not simply get absorbed into its being on touching you, but it's not a particularly hard boss fight, especially if you have a full set of vials.
For another example of this, see Gravelord Nito, who is one of the easiest bosses in the entire Soulsborne series despite being one of the 3-4 most powerful entities in his setting by lore, or High Lord Wolnir, who does less damage slamming you with a holy sword the size of a ship's mast than regular, human size late game mobs do with a regular weapons, which makes no sense except as a game mechanic.
As Tricia is basing this more on lore and what a particular impact should "logically" do - see Amygdala pulping Anderson pretty much every time it landed a hit and hits having more consequences and results than "number goes down," I'd be wary of "harder game boss= more powerful in a prose setting."
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noahgab1133
Fluffy?
i just love the leading vote its so anderson.
whats this a dangerous and obscure monster puppeting the strings of someone i know
lets poke it with a stick and by stick i mean explosions XD
whats this a dangerous and obscure monster puppeting the strings of someone i know
lets poke it with a stick and by stick i mean explosions XD
- Location
- Poland
"So, you want to know what it does?"
"Yea-"
Gehrman twists the handle
NitroFumetsu
Blaze of Glory
And then the Hunter's Workshop was on fire.
Rareitor
Aspiring K0mput0rmayun
- Location
- Poland
The Shovel is just a Noble Phantasm.
It turns into a Drill, to pierce straight through our vital organs
Cenotaph
You look down at the twinkling lantern at your feet, take a deep breath, and blow it out slowly.
"I'mma head ta the Dream and deal with the elephant in the room. Ye stayin' here or headin' back?"
"Figured I'd take a look at the parts of the Research Hall we skipped. I'll meet you back on the Chapel roof in a bit."
"Good luck."
"You're the one that needs it, Father Anderson."
With that, Simon strolls through the open doorway and takes a tremendous leap out of sight. You kneel down and close your eyes, bracing yourself for what's to come.
Hope rises to greet you as you materialize in the Dream and you share your customary bow. Her smile dims at the sight of your grim expression.
"Is everything alright, Hunter Anderson?"
"Gotta talk ta Gehrman. He around?"
"He is in his Workshop. Is there any way I can aid you with what troubles you?" You try to picture that earnest gaze on Maria's face and fail utterly. Somehow, the eyes without blood within them are infinitely warmer.
"It's somethin' he and I've gotta deal with, but I do appreciate that."
"Very well."
The man in question wheels himself around at your approach, placing the streamlined chunk of Amygdala he was tweaking on a shelf beside some bells. "Father Anderson. The prostheses aren't quite ready yet, but it won't be long before-"
"Maria."
He starts, his hollow smile twisting into a strained rictus. "Excuse me?"
"I met her in the Nightmare. She wanted ta know the price o' yer Dream."
His composure disintegrates. You've seen him shaken a few times, but never to this extent. Half-formed sentences pile up on his lips as he steals glances towards the moon, one hand bobbing uncertainly in your direction and the other gripping his familiar black blade with white-knuckle fervor.
"Is she suffering?" he manages to say.
"Only thing makin' her suffer is her own conscience. What was the price, Gehrman?"
His visible sag transitions seamlessly into the upright posture of a pallbearer. "Come with me."
You follow Gehrman to the grave with which you access the Nightmare. At his approach, the Messengers scatter.
"Read," he says. You kneel down to get a better look at the inscription, unfaded despite its incredible age.
"And then she killed herself and left me alone. I was, I couldn't...I built the Doll, spent hours and days and weeks getting every last detail down to the millimeter right. I brought her with me into this Dream and she stood up and smiled and for one second I thought I had Maria back. I thought I had a home again."
He's crying, ugly wet sobs that he's barely managing to speak over. "But it wasn't her. Maria wasn't some, some servile little tart who'd grovel before every blasted Hunter she saw. But she'll say things, she'll say 'Good Hunter' like Maria used to and it'll be that first second all over again and it hurts every time."
Heaving, trembling, he glares at you with bloodshot eyes. "I've been in that next second for longer than you've been alive, Father Anderson. That's my price."
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"I'mma head ta the Dream and deal with the elephant in the room. Ye stayin' here or headin' back?"
"Figured I'd take a look at the parts of the Research Hall we skipped. I'll meet you back on the Chapel roof in a bit."
"Good luck."
"You're the one that needs it, Father Anderson."
With that, Simon strolls through the open doorway and takes a tremendous leap out of sight. You kneel down and close your eyes, bracing yourself for what's to come.
Hope rises to greet you as you materialize in the Dream and you share your customary bow. Her smile dims at the sight of your grim expression.
"Is everything alright, Hunter Anderson?"
"Gotta talk ta Gehrman. He around?"
"He is in his Workshop. Is there any way I can aid you with what troubles you?" You try to picture that earnest gaze on Maria's face and fail utterly. Somehow, the eyes without blood within them are infinitely warmer.
"It's somethin' he and I've gotta deal with, but I do appreciate that."
"Very well."
The man in question wheels himself around at your approach, placing the streamlined chunk of Amygdala he was tweaking on a shelf beside some bells. "Father Anderson. The prostheses aren't quite ready yet, but it won't be long before-"
"Maria."
He starts, his hollow smile twisting into a strained rictus. "Excuse me?"
"I met her in the Nightmare. She wanted ta know the price o' yer Dream."
His composure disintegrates. You've seen him shaken a few times, but never to this extent. Half-formed sentences pile up on his lips as he steals glances towards the moon, one hand bobbing uncertainly in your direction and the other gripping his familiar black blade with white-knuckle fervor.
"Is she suffering?" he manages to say.
"Only thing makin' her suffer is her own conscience. What was the price, Gehrman?"
His visible sag transitions seamlessly into the upright posture of a pallbearer. "Come with me."
You follow Gehrman to the grave with which you access the Nightmare. At his approach, the Messengers scatter.
"Read," he says. You kneel down to get a better look at the inscription, unfaded despite its incredible age.
Lady Maria of Cainhurst
Prized Pupil
Beloved Compatriot
Friend
"She was beautiful, smart as a whip and twice as deadly. When I spoke with her, when I sparred with her, when I just looked at her and delighted in the fact that she existed, I was alive. I was home. She was such an amazing, such an impossibly amazing woman that she made that whole mess of a world worth living in.Prized Pupil
Beloved Compatriot
Friend
"And then she killed herself and left me alone. I was, I couldn't...I built the Doll, spent hours and days and weeks getting every last detail down to the millimeter right. I brought her with me into this Dream and she stood up and smiled and for one second I thought I had Maria back. I thought I had a home again."
He's crying, ugly wet sobs that he's barely managing to speak over. "But it wasn't her. Maria wasn't some, some servile little tart who'd grovel before every blasted Hunter she saw. But she'll say things, she'll say 'Good Hunter' like Maria used to and it'll be that first second all over again and it hurts every time."
Heaving, trembling, he glares at you with bloodshot eyes. "I've been in that next second for longer than you've been alive, Father Anderson. That's my price."
[] Write in...
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
Hm. Less violence and bloodshed then I was hoping for. Let's see if we can fix that....
[X] You've been paying that price for a long time now haven't you Gehrman? Trapped in this Dream, unable to escape, watching countless hunters come and go, sometimes burying them yourself, and all the while trapped in your own personal hell. Complete with your own personal demon thanks to Hope being here. Don't you think your price has been paid? All Dreams end. This one is no exception. If you ask it of me I will do my best to set you free, either by granting you your final rest, and allowing you to ascend into Heaven and my Gods embrace, or by ending the Great One that created this place for you in the first place. So tell me Gehrman. Do you wish for this Dream to end?
[X] You've been paying that price for a long time now haven't you Gehrman? Trapped in this Dream, unable to escape, watching countless hunters come and go, sometimes burying them yourself, and all the while trapped in your own personal hell. Complete with your own personal demon thanks to Hope being here. Don't you think your price has been paid? All Dreams end. This one is no exception. If you ask it of me I will do my best to set you free, either by granting you your final rest, and allowing you to ascend into Heaven and my Gods embrace, or by ending the Great One that created this place for you in the first place. So tell me Gehrman. Do you wish for this Dream to end?
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- Location
- Home
Gehrman is just a sad tired old war veteran who has seen the brutal deaths of those he would call friends and family, he then saw the last person he felt any love for kill herself and he knows she ISN'T in a better place, she ISN'T at peace. He can't leave the dream to speak to her and Maria wont leave the nightmare to go speak to him.
I honestly don't know how to console a tired old man.
Maybe something along the lines of freeing him from the dream and relieving Maria of the nightmare?
I honestly don't know how to console a tired old man.
Maybe something along the lines of freeing him from the dream and relieving Maria of the nightmare?
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LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
Stop trying to skip ahead to the final boss.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
It's not the final boss in the quest, we still have to deal with the Nightmare of Mensis, and Byrgenwerth along with it. Also the Orphan of Kos if Maria lets us. But we IC know that Great Ones are the only ones capable of making these Dreams or Nightmares, we know that Gehrman has been suffering here for a very long time, and we know that he desperately wants to leave, but is unable to do so. In what way is Anderson offering to try and set Gerhman free, in either sense of the word, out of character and therefor possibility for him?
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ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
[X] You've been paying that price for a long time now haven't you Gehrman? Trapped in this Dream, unable to escape, watching countless hunters come and go, sometimes burying them yourself, and all the while trapped in your own personal hell. CompletelHope being here. Don't you think your price has been paid? All Dreams end. This one is no exception. If you ask it of me I will do my best to set you free, either by granting you your final rest, and allowing you to ascend into Heaven and my Gods embrace, or by ending the Great One that created this place for you in the first place. So tell me Gehrman. Do you wish for this Dream to end?
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
Thank you for voting for my idea, but I had to edit it because of the Bolded portion above. Sorry about that.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
Yeah, also he's not the bad guy here.
Said it before and I'll say it again, the eldritch beings in bloodborne are mostly benign, save for Oedon. That guys a prick, and even worse we can't stab the fucker.
Back to said 'final boss', the worst thing that could be said about it was that it allowed the dream to be created.
You want to stab a guy who let a begging stray animal into his house.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
Always thought Flora was a she. Or, as much a she as an eldritch thingummy can be, anyway.
Evaunit02mark1
S-s-smell the Prey, S-s-start the Hunt.
It's eldritch, we can say it has a gender listing as cabbage and it still would be just as valid frankly.
But I can see where you're coming from.
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
- Location
- New York
[X] You've been paying that price for a long time now haven't you Gehrman? Trapped in this Dream, unable to escape, watching countless hunters come and go, sometimes burying them yourself, and all the while trapped in your own personal hell. Complete with your own personal demon thanks to Hope being here. Don't you think your price has been paid? All Dreams end. This one is no exception. If you ask it of me I will do my best to set you free, either by granting you your final rest, and allowing you to ascend into Heaven and my Gods embrace, or by ending the Great One that created this place for you in the first place. So tell me Gehrman. Do you wish for this Dream to end?
TheFish 2
(Verified Endbringer)
- Location
- Marianas Trench.
Just edit the original post, don't vote twice.
EDIT: [X] Hug him.
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[X] Hug him.