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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%
  • Total voters
    851
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BanTheFairyKing said:
@Sir LagsAlot I finally caught up on this. Are you happy? I am. I am very happy because this was really frickin good.

Question though, for the author: How do we grow our range so we can contact the other Primarchs?

You might have covered it earlier, but this was a longgggggggg thing to read from the beginning and I've forgotten some of the mechanics.
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Psyker Choirs we grow the range at which we can contact our brothers through improving our Psyker Choirs.

Or improving our Psyker check. Or just flat out getting closer to them.

Also Ilbgar set up an Ork quest as well if you want to go read that.
 
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We've also managed to annex some more interesting planets that the Emperor would have quietly swept into the memory hole OTL.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Tenth-Tier Humanity Crystal/Rune. This Rune enhances humankind. A general boost of every parameter. Strength, speed, everything. Boosts Skill caps in humans to 150. +250 to PDF rolls. +500 to Champions bonus. +250 to Industry. +250 to Morale Rolls. +1000 to Psyker Checks.
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Hoo boy, that is nice. Now I kinda wanna create a Crystal of Eldar now, because I figure they too need a boost.
 
dear lord our people are going to be NUTS!!!

but then again thanks to the crystals making humanity better along with a better understanding of self...we might get a better chance of fighting off the wwwaaggghhh now.

but if we do get a eldar crystal, I wonder how that would effect them? Because if they start worshiping Serras as some sort of nascent goddess thinks are going to go wonky...especially if hey figure out that she's based on the primarch's the emperor made.

that's going to be a trippy conversation. Might start humbling the pointy ears to!
 
RandomDwarf said:
dear lord our people are going to be NUTS!!!

but then again thanks to the crystals making humanity better along with a better understanding of self...we might get a better chance of fighting off the wwwaaggghhh now.

but if we do get a eldar crystal, I wonder how that would effect them? Because if they start worshiping Serras as some sort of nascent goddess thinks are going to go wonky...especially if hey figure out that she's based on the primarch's the emperor made.

that's going to be a trippy conversation. Might start humbling the pointy ears to!
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They're already humble enough to teach our psykers and constantly rely on tech we developed to survive.
 
RandomDwarf said:
dear lord our people are going to be NUTS!!!

but then again thanks to the crystals making humanity better along with a better understanding of self...we might get a better chance of fighting off the wwwaaggghhh now.

but if we do get a eldar crystal, I wonder how that would effect them? Because if they start worshiping Serras as some sort of nascent goddess thinks are going to go wonky...especially if hey figure out that she's based on the primarch's the emperor made.

that's going to be a trippy conversation. Might start humbling the pointy ears to!
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Wind-Up Citrus said:
They're already humble enough to teach our psykers and constantly rely on tech we developed to survive.
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You guys do realise that not only are the Quenyan/All Eldar not humble , but we are only ALLIED with the Quenyan Eldar, not the others. Making an Eldar Crystal would be ducking disastrous, since not only are most Eldar not allied to us or working for Humanities best interests, but are potentially detrimental to Humanities future supremacy.

Like Biel-tan or the nascent Dark Eldar. I reject any plans to provide the Eldar their own Racial Crystal until they remove any thought of reattaining their hegemony/domination of the galaxy.

Remember, despite dealing with Quenyan, if we make the crystal, we'll be boosting ALL of the Eldar. That is unacceptable.
 
Slayer 10321 said:
You guys do realise that not only are the Quenyan/All Eldar not humble , but we are only ALLIED with the Quenyan Eldar, not the others. Making an Eldar Crystal would be ducking disastrous, since not only are most Eldar not allied to us or working for Humanities best interests, but are potentially detrimental to Humanities future supremacy.

Like Biel-tan or the nascent Dark Eldar. I reject any plans to provide the Eldar their own Racial Crystal until they remove any thought of reattaining their hegemony/domination of the galaxy.

Remember, despite dealing with Quenyan, if we make the crystal, we'll be boosting ALL of the Eldar. That is unacceptable.
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Sort of too late, we already decided on making the Sophont Crystal, that boosts all sapients. No Eldar Crystal just yet.
 
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Omegastar said:
why not make a anti chaos crystal so we can win soon?

....this is dumb sarcasm please don't do it.
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We already have Order crystals.

Slayer 10321 said:
Like Biel-tan or the nascent Dark Eldar.
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I mean. At this point the Deldar are gonna be pretty easy to butterfly away? Because like, Commoragh is still in a civil war ATM. Biel-Tan might be similarly easy to butterfly away.

Slayer 10321 said:
Remember, despite dealing with Quenyan, if we make the crystal, we'll be boosting ALL of the Eldar. That is unacceptable.
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No, we'd be boosting all the Eldar that can make crystals. At the moment, thats restricted to Quenyan and is likely to be for the foreseeable future until we start diplomancing other Eldar.
 
jacobplm said:
I mean. At this point the Deldar are gonna be pretty easy to butterfly away? Because like, Commoragh is still in a civil war ATM. Biel-Tan might be similarly easy to butterfly away.
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That depends if we find Commoraugh in the next 13-14 turns. If we don't chances are the Dark Eldar will come to be and then Vulkan will know the joys of having Mandrakes abduct his people into slavery.
 
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crap just realized we made ALL of humanity stronger, including chaos worshippers and non annexed hostile humanity polities
 
tri2 said:
crap just realized we made ALL of humanity stronger, including chaos worshippers and non annexed hostile humanity polities
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Only human polities that use crystals. And of those, only polities who have taken the time to develop humanity crystals.

And since at the moment the Bastion is the only polity to USE crystals and Chaos is probably gonna stick to crystals in their domains, we don't really have to worry about widespread Humanity dissemination.
 
jacobplm said:
Question, will the effects of Sophont and Humanity stack? Like will having crystals of both around enhance humans twice over, or will they only get the benefit of the Humanity crystal?
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They stack, but Sophont is a lot more diluted, so an individual human gets less out of a Sophont Crystal than a Humanity Crystal. This is balanced by Sophont Crystals working on pretty much everybody, including Orks. Daemons don't get much out of them though.
 
jacobplm said:
We already have Order crystals.



I mean. At this point the Deldar are gonna be pretty easy to butterfly away? Because like, Commoragh is still in a civil war ATM. Biel-Tan might be similarly easy to butterfly away.



No, we'd be boosting all the Eldar that can make crystals. At the moment, thats restricted to Quenyan and is likely to be for the foreseeable future until we start diplomancing other Eldar.
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@Slayer 103121 why did you rate my post funny?
 
Sweet, does the sophont crystal add 25 to skill cap? Because I can see that it can do that, and with our current crystals humans will get to 175 on skill cap...maybe for normal people.

Depends on GM
 
Okay, so, I've been thinking about the heart crystal and why it improves mechanicus relations with us, and I *think* I know why:

Machine Spirits. The Psuedo-AI lodged in every advanced piece of ancient human technology, which may or may not already be bolstered by the mechanicus's beliefs in their existence and veneration of such. I'm willing to bet that the heart crystal pushes them from 'vaguely intelligent' to 'straight up sophonts' which for the Mechanicus would be a BIG DEAL, especially if it lets them be effected by the Sophont crystal. @ilbgar123 how close am I?
 
ilbgar123 said:
Emps has a really easy time making Humanity Crystals, for some reason. ;)
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Dad loves our Crystal God oh yes.
jacobplm said:
Okay, so, I've been thinking about the heart crystal and why it improves mechanicus relations with us, and I *think* I know why:

Machine Spirits. The Psuedo-AI lodged in every advanced piece of ancient human technology, which may or may not already be bolstered by the mechanicus's beliefs in their existence and veneration of such. I'm willing to bet that the heart crystal pushes them from 'vaguely intelligent' to 'straight up sophonts' which for the Mechanicus would be a BIG DEAL, especially if it lets them be effected by the Sophont crystal. @ilbgar123 how close am I?
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If this is true then we are a shoe in to become the Motive Force of the Adeptus Mechanicus. If making all Machine Spirits sentient won't cause the AdMech to see us as an aspect of the Omnissiah nothing will.
 
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