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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%
  • Total voters
    850
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Rjrulew said:
Oh wait we do its how we find who we can safely elevate to psyker hood whic is another thing big E already likes or will be very interested in
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The Witch Hunters use our tech and crystals to quickly id and train psykers to safely manage and control their powers. They also have the ability to upgrade psykers after said psykers pass an extensive review. Raising any psyker to Beta level is strictly illegal and only Serras is allowed knowledge of how to do so. Oh yeah and we also have the ability to raise and lower anyone's psyker level as we please. We normally don't because that's a Witch Hunter's job.

Link to the canon omake:
An Extra Primarch | Page 342
 
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If we can make a Crystal of Self, Human, and Eldar as either proven in story or inferred from the QM, would it be too much that a crystal of Heroes, if not outright one of Astartes, be created? It could be primarily something that boost them specifically but as a (very) minor secondary affect, prolonged exposure can help shape a normal person (to some small degree) into the mindset and assist in the non-quantifiable aspect of surviving the process of becoming an Astartes?

Or we go full Psyker Medico and create a new intermediary, and possible safer, stage between Bastion normal human and Astartes.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Hm, perhaps that's why the Golden Goddesses aren't active anymore? Because Chaos ganked them? Hylia, on the other hand, could just be a lesser version of Emps. Link and Zelda could be Perpetuals that have the caveat of losing their memories of their previous lives and who pop up every few generations (so about 60 times over the course of 10K years, though that relies on them living their full lifetimes every time and/or not dying to Daemons). The former retains his instincts and some degree of skill in fighting developed over past lives, lending itself to skill in combat that would do a Named Greater Daemon of Khorne proud, though he isn't unwilling to sneak around or weaken his enemies through subterfuge either. Zelda is similar, but for ruling over a nation and leading people in general.

That is to say, Link is a Combat/Intrigue Hero, and Zelda is a Administration/Diplomacy Hero, with a certain emphasis on Martial as well, though Link has that too. They're also Psykers, but their powersets are tied to supporting their Hero-ness. Biomancy for Link to give him superhuman physical abilities, for example.
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That could work.
Though the whole "the Chaos Gods ate the Golden Goddesses" could be reserved for low/mixed rolls over discovering said world, with high roll having Serras finding Hyrule thriving under the leadership of Zelda and the protection of Link, with the Golden Goddesses hiding somewhere in said world somehow (having successfully hidden themselves from Chaos.)

Bad rolls would be dead Goddesses and the situation of the latest Zelda game, with Hyrule about to fall to demons.

What do you guys think of this?
 
ilbgar123 said:
Luck is hard to quantify. There's a reason it's not part of the Stat list. It can be hard to tell what's a one-off, what's latent Psykery, and what's genuinely being lucky.
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How many of the following list would provide an increased survival rate:
1 using willpower detectors when selecting potentials
2 luck crystals/runes
3 adaptability c/r
4 Willpower c/r
5 life c/r
6 survival c/r
7 having Librarians look at the potential's souls and trying to find patterns of who survives
8 a personality test made by us so it actually works
9 saints of the Crystal God Viporta doing whatever it is their blessing do
10 a regimen of gene therapy to bring them as close to astarteshood as possible without an actual gene seed before the operation
Come to think of it, we should work towards 10 anyway just for everyone.
 
1 using willpower detectors when selecting potentials
2 luck crystals/runes
3 adaptability c/r
4 Willpower c/r
5 life c/r
6 survival c/r
10 a regimen of gene therapy to bring them as close to astarteshood as possible without an actual gene seed before the operation

would work. Crystal priests are unlikely to really be a thing. Not in large numbers at least.
 
Well we got a idea on how to make our legion then! Better get cranking on those runes this turn or the next!

Heck luck rune might help us on random event rolls. Or perils of the warp warp rolls.
 
ilbgar123 said:
1 using willpower detectors when selecting potentials
2 luck crystals/runes
3 adaptability c/r
4 Willpower c/r
5 life c/r
6 survival c/r
10 a regimen of gene therapy to bring them as close to astarteshood as possible without an actual gene seed before the operation

would work. Crystal priests are unlikely to really be a thing. Not in large numbers at least.
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any progress with the update or do you need some ideas?
 
Eh, I'm taking today off because it's my birthday. Also, I wrote a 1K Omae yesterday, and I try to write 1K a day on average, so I haven't actually worked on it much.
 
The Golden Man said:
Some of these worlds I have little knowledge of beyond what I know from the wiki, others I could write omakes for if ilbgar123 bring them in the quests.
It was above all written to help him think about other settings that could be brought in the quest, in a manner which would not break either settings (warhammer 30k and XXX) as much as possible.
Still, like with the world of Nier: Automata, if they becomes "canon" I would be interested in writting omakes for them.

Also, I agree with the problems you mentioned with bringing in Hyrule, but I was hoping someone could think of a suitable way of merging both settings.
Ah well. I tried.
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I'm not into it bringing LoZ into the quest, it's very uninspired that you want to rip off a setting wholesale instead of creating a original world the fits in the universe and it waters down the setting because the writer is proclaiming to his audience that he's not very imaginative and can't be creative with his writing.
 
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Dormin said:
I'm not into it, it's very uninspired that you want to rip off a setting instead of creating a original world the fits in the universe and waters down the setting because the writer is proclaiming to his audience that he's not very imaginative and can't be creative with his writing.
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You do realize that's what all franchises do, to one extent or another?

Heck, GW is guilty of ripping off many other settings franchises for ideas to incorporate to Warhammer. Including RL historical stuff.

Also, Happy Birthday @ilbgar123 !!!
 
Slayer 10321 said:
You do realize that's what all franchises do, to one extent or another?

Heck, GW is guilty of ripping off many other settings franchises for ideas to incorporate to Warhammer. Including RL historical stuff.

Also, Happy Birthday @ilbgar123 !!!
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Yeah but that's the trick, you give it a nod and have some elements that tip you off to it, not just throw it into someone's face.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Hm, perhaps that's why the Golden Goddesses aren't active anymore? Because Chaos ganked them? Hylia, on the other hand, could just be a lesser version of Emps. Link and Zelda could be Perpetuals that have the caveat of losing their memories of their previous lives and who pop up every few generations (so about 60 times over the course of 10K years, though that relies on them living their full lifetimes every time and/or not dying to Daemons). The former retains his instincts and some degree of skill in fighting developed over past lives, lending itself to skill in combat that would do a Named Greater Daemon of Khorne proud, though he isn't unwilling to sneak around or weaken his enemies through subterfuge either. Zelda is similar, but for ruling over a nation and leading people in general.

That is to say, Link is a Combat/Intrigue Hero, and Zelda is a Administration/Diplomacy Hero, with a certain emphasis on Martial as well, though Link has that too. They're also Psykers, but their powersets are tied to supporting their Hero-ness. Biomancy for Link to give him superhuman physical abilities, for example.
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It just feels disrespectful to have the Chaos Gods eat the Gods of Hyrule and to put Hyrule and it's heroes where they just aren't enough, and I honestly just don't want to imagine that Three Goddesses getting devoured. I know it's a double standard as I have no problem with other series I like getting drafted into this quest, but for some reason I feel this way.

Maybe have it be one of the connected world instead, like Termina? That's the nice thing about LoZ, Hyrule has a bunch of other worlds connected to it, seemingly a different dimension, where it's not really clear if the Goddesses exist and Zelda and Link aren't around, so you can still have a similar setting and similar races and magic and fairies without having their Deities be killed and devoured and without having to say that Zelda and Link working long term at a problem just aren't enough to successfully deal with it, but you can still have one or two of them show up for a hot minute and then leave the universe again if you want them around for an event.

Also, happy birthday.
 
I had always thought that the three Golden goddesses had quite literally become the pieces of the tri-force after they made the world, hell Hylia could be the will of the world itself acting sort of like a really powerful daemon world.

In that vein fairies, both greater and lesser, are its version of daemons, daemons of light, life and good things.

Ganon could also be another perpetual, same with other important people like Impa and other people that have recurring roles.
 
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