An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.6%
  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%
  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 378 44.5%

  • Total voters
    850
No I mean demon world of our crystal goddess not the chaos ones.
Demon worlds turn everything into caricatures of themselves. Even in the updates the crystals have been described as detrimental in their conceptual extremes like Cleansing Crystals wiping out the bacteria in your gut or Bravery Crystals disabling your sense of fear.

I have to repeat Zavvnao's sentiments on this, are you being serious?
 
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Demon worlds turn everything into caricatures of themselves. Even in the updates the crystals have been described as detrimental in their conceptual extremes like Cleansing Crystals wiping out the bacteria in your gut or Bravery Crystals disabling your sense of fear.

I have to repeat Zavvnao's sentiments on this, are you being serious?

It feels like a world like that could grow into one that even the Chaos Gods could end up horrified by, or at least blink.
 
Demon worlds turn everything into caricatures of themselves. Even in the updates the crystals have been described as detrimental in their conceptual extremes like Cleansing Crystals wiping out the bacteria in your gut or Bravery Crystals disabling your sense of fear.

I have to repeat Zavvnao's sentiments on this, are you being serious?
I mean I am just asking what would happen and what are the possibilities. I mean we have god with us we should get all the uses she offers not just the crystal ones. I mean she does control a portion of the warp what if we traveled through her areas when we FTL should that not be faster than the regular warpdrives and be easier to navigate. I mean it makes sense.

About the demon world I think I was not clear with what I wanted to say. Basically it would be a life less world that we seed with all kind of crystals. Then it would act like a beacon of her power in the materium and allow her to take control of the warp around her planets. We don put people there. They would be like mini astronomicon so as to help us bridge the distance and travetime between out sectors.
So yes I am serious.
 
I mean I am just asking what would happen and what are the possibilities. I mean we have god with us we should get all the uses she offers not just the crystal ones. I mean she does control a portion of the warp what if we traveled through her areas when we FTL should that not be faster than the regular warpdrives and be easier to navigate. I mean it makes sense.

About the demon world I think I was not clear with what I wanted to say. Basically it would be a life less world that we seed with all kind of crystals. Then it would act like a beacon of her power in the materium and allow her to take control of the warp around her planets. We don put people there. They would be like mini astronomicon so as to help us bridge the distance and travetime between out sectors.
So yes I am serious.

Don't call it a daemon world or do anything to make it resemble one.

What is much less crazy and marginally more sane, is to take a dead world and turn it into a super warp-buoy, out far in a solar system or one without many people in it.

we could spread navigation devices out of it. Make the equivelent of a Flight tower.

If we have Fortress worlds, we can have Nav Worlds here and there. No warp-f**king required here.
 
I mean we have god with us
Technically, she's not a god yet. She has just been born.
I mean she does control a portion of the warp
No, she doesn't.
About the demon world I think I was not clear with what I wanted to say. Basically it would be a life less world that we seed with all kind of crystals. Then it would act like a beacon of her power in the materium and allow her to take control of the warp around her planets. We don put people there. They would be like mini astronomicon so as to help us bridge the distance and travetime between out sectors.
So yes I am serious.
We can't do that mate. This quest isn't a power fantasy where we can do whatever we want.
 
We can't do that mate. This quest isn't a power fantasy where we can do whatever we want.
But we have done pretty much whatever we wanted thus far. Aside from the Emperor and Cogsmasher no one actually puts forth much resistance to our whims. It's just that our power fantasy was to make a utopia in the middle of 30k, something that many can't even hope to do. And with little effort and barely any bloodshed or rebellions while in our early teens.
 
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Technically, she's not a god yet. She has just been born.

No, she doesn't.

We can't do that mate. This quest isn't a power fantasy where we can do whatever we want.
that's true

I mean by definition gods are sentient mass of warp energy so of course she does.

I mean our soul was strong enough to calm the warp in our sector and I feel the god would have a stronger control over the warp. And we pretty much can.
1 Create a beacon crystal
2 coat a planet with it
3 warp navigation
4???
5 profit
 
I can guarentee that if we tried to fuck about with benevolent 'demon worlds', all four Chaos gods would take us personally.

And the only being that could stand their true forms without falling to chaos or going insane is the Emperor himself.
 
I can guarentee that if we tried to fuck about with benevolent 'demon worlds', all four Chaos gods would take us personally.

And the only being that could stand their true forms without falling to chaos or going insane is the Emperor himself.
It's a good thing we have him then isn't it.
We go to earth deal with his stuff and do this later with his permission.
 
That's just supports my point. she has concepts under her control like the travel concept must surely help in travelling in the warp.
It doesn't. She has concepts of things doesn't mean she's the God of Those Things. She needs. She has power of some semblance over the warp but she has not a chance of surviving if any Chaos Gods took her seriously.

It's a good thing we have him then isn't it.
We go to earth deal with his stuff and do this later with his permission.
You say that like he's going to automatically approve of your idea.
 
But we have done pretty much whatever we wanted thus far. Aside from the Emperor and Cogsmasher no one actually puts forth much resistance to our whims. It's just that our power fantasy was to make a utopia in the middle of 30k, something that many can't even hope to do. And with little effort and barely any bloodshed or rebellions while in our early teens.

We also just may of had a lucky period.

Sometimes, things go well even when we do not want them to. It is a sad fact of life.

Edit: I like that they went so well as I liked reading about all the things we got and did.

it was a nice change for once.
 
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It doesn't. She has concepts of things doesn't mean she's the God of Those Things. She needs. She has power of some semblance over the warp but she has not a chance of surviving if any Chaos Gods took her seriously.


You say that like he's going to automatically approve of your idea.
First of all some semblance of control is better than what we have now so you are just proving my point. And of course she is no match for the chaos gods of am not saying she dispell warpstorms and stuff like that. I mean she can increase the average speed of our empires ships increasing trade troops and fleet transportation speed if the chaos gods do not interfere. I mean for god's sake we were discussing if we could devise alternate FTL systems like the Starfleet one. How hard is it to understand that a warp god does have power in the warp that can help us.

And he was creating a human webway what I am suggesting is very similar it just relies on us remaining civil with a warp god I think he can keep his disdan for god's down enough when he sees something that helps humans and give him more time to complete the webway.
 
First of all some semblance of control is better than what we have now so you are just proving my point. And of course she is no match for the chaos gods of am not saying she dispell warpstorms and stuff like that. I mean she can increase the average speed of our empires ships increasing trade troops and fleet transportation speed if the chaos gods do not interfere. I mean for god's sake we were discussing if we could devise alternate FTL systems like the Starfleet one. How hard is it to understand that a warp god does have power in the warp that can help us.

And he was creating a human webway what I am suggesting is very similar it just relies on us remaining civil with a warp god I think he can keep his disdan for god's down enough when he sees something that helps humans and give him more time to complete the webway.

We can just show him that we are a good and responsible Primarch, and he may let us and/or Magnus collaborate with him on it.

Maybe one of our brothers that are more open minded might want their psyker potential awakened. Like which brother just wanted to build and make things in his world all day? Someone who is good at projects besides us.

Edit: I meant collaborate on the webway.
 
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Here's something interesting. Machine-Spirits emerge from the limited computational ability of machines which mimics minds/souls to some extent (where one ends and the other begins is a blurry line at the best of times) but a lot of it comes from humanity's tendency to anthropomorphize things. That's why the Tau don't get Machine-Spirits, other than their low-tier Blankness tending to strangle such proto-souls in the crib.

This lends itself well to 'Planet-chans' or Planet-Minds. Earth would by far be the easiest for this to occur to, as the psychic resonance of countless trillions who all ultimately originate from that one planet has a shaping effect. Knowing about this origin would drastically increase it's influence in the Warp. However, believing that there's a Planet-Mind would drastically lower the threshold for this to occur, so a planet doesn't necessarily require the human race as a whole to have a connection to it.
 
So what make a Warhammer ed version of Captain Planet with the bad guys being cultists? Make a while bunch of Gaia chans?

Or maybe Warhammer Kanmasu?
 
Here's something interesting. Machine-Spirits emerge from the limited computational ability of machines which mimics minds/souls to some extent (where one ends and the other begins is a blurry line at the best of times) but a lot of it comes from humanity's tendency to anthropomorphize things. That's why the Tau don't get Machine-Spirits, other than their low-tier Blankness tending to strangle such proto-souls in the crib.

This lends itself well to 'Planet-chans' or Planet-Minds. Earth would by far be the easiest for this to occur to, as the psychic resonance of countless trillions who all ultimately originate from that one planet has a shaping effect. Knowing about this origin would drastically increase it's influence in the Warp. However, believing that there's a Planet-Mind would drastically lower the threshold for this to occur, so a planet doesn't necessarily require the human race as a whole to have a connection to it.
Earth-chan can be a reality...

My God
So...like this?
 
I can guarentee that if we tried to fuck about with benevolent 'demon worlds', all four Chaos gods would take us personally.

And the only being that could stand their true forms without falling to chaos or going insane is the Emperor himself.

And from Canon he can die to their pawn, they don't even need to pay him a personal visit.

She has power of some semblance over the warp but she has not a chance of surviving if any Chaos Gods took her seriously.

Or any yet survivng race god. She's puny by those standarts. She's not even lived a single millenia, for warp's sake.

First of all some semblance of control is better than what we have now so you are just proving my point. And of course she is no match for the chaos gods of am not saying she dispell warpstorms and stuff like that. I mean she can increase the average speed of our empires ships increasing trade troops and fleet transportation speed if the chaos gods do not interfere. I mean for god's sake we were discussing if we could devise alternate FTL systems like the Starfleet one. How hard is it to understand that a warp god does have power in the warp that can help us.

If we do that, Chaos 4 will personally see to screwing us in every way imaginable: ie slowing warp-travel, spreading uber lethal disease on every planet around our polity for sectios, spawning chaos storms of ridiculus powers and other 'fun' stuff. While we're fucking with only She-bitch it's fun for the others and it provides more entertainment but once we start defying them all we're in trouble.
 
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Here's something interesting. Machine-Spirits emerge from the limited computational ability of machines which mimics minds/souls to some extent (where one ends and the other begins is a blurry line at the best of times) but a lot of it comes from humanity's tendency to anthropomorphize things. That's why the Tau don't get Machine-Spirits, other than their low-tier Blankness tending to strangle such proto-souls in the crib.

This lends itself well to 'Planet-chans' or Planet-Minds. Earth would by far be the easiest for this to occur to, as the psychic resonance of countless trillions who all ultimately originate from that one planet has a shaping effect. Knowing about this origin would drastically increase it's influence in the Warp. However, believing that there's a Planet-Mind would drastically lower the threshold for this to occur, so a planet doesn't necessarily require the human race as a whole to have a connection to it.

Doesn't Fernus, in the Thernus system, have one? Like would Serras Suspect it does with how she is a powerful Psyker?
 
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