Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 23: We Wonder Where Who Wanders When Watchers Wane

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It's hard for me to wrap my head around spending XP on Reputation (beauty) and all its variants.

First, I wonder what real benefits do we get for having a reputation for bein beautiful over actually being beautiful. Second it just feels weird having to spend XP on it. Like shouldn't it just happen if people see Saki on TV?
 
I rather look forward to seeing her become her own person with initiative and true strength of will. Maker knows she can put it to good use.

Starmetal job requirement after all.

As for Iris...on the first match he hadn't yet figured out what No Essence interacts like, and thus his charms were a lot less effective.

Now he knows how.
 
I think the "savior" had 3 dots before? Or did it?

Yeah, it did. Unfortunate, but I suppose it's to be expected.

I'm glad "Blinded by the Big Picture" is still prospective, though. You had me worried.

EDIT: Also, I noticed Prayer's current mental state is "shocked", and I'm not too confident that it has anything to do with Saki. Cauldron revelations are my main bet.
 
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First, I wonder what real benefits do we get for having a reputation for bein beautiful over actually being beautiful.

Basically, it adds dice to any roll where that reputation would be an asset, and removes dice where it would be a detriment. For instance, Weaver's reputation as being an S-class cape would help when she's telling some hostage takers "don't make me come in there, you won't like it", using a dice pool of 3 (Charisma) + 5 (Presence) + 3 (Swarm) + 4 (S-class power) for a roll of 15, but if she was for some reason trying to convince someone she could be easily overlooked as a non-factor, 'just the bug girl', the equation would look more like 3 (Manipulation) + 5 (Presence) + 3 (Swarm) - 4 (S-class power) for a roll of 7. Apparently being known for duking it out with Endbringers mano-e-carrot will occasionally ping someone's threat radar.

Beautiful ought to apply whenever Appearance does. Which is most of the time.

More dice to throw around on social rolls, lending even more strength to Saki's ability to sway people.

Seems a bit like gilding the lily to me; she's already throwing so many dice downrange the number of people capable of contesting her is frankly paltry, those xp seem better applied elsewhere to me. Learning Martial Arts, or Contacts for example.
 
Seems a bit like gilding the lily to me; she's already throwing so many dice downrange the number of people capable of contesting her is frankly paltry, those xp seem better applied elsewhere to me. Learning Martial Arts, or Contacts for example.
*shrugs*
I was just answering the question, not calling to spend XP on that particular background.
 
Enduring Order Administrator (Blinded By The Big Picture) [Emotion|Frustration] ●○○
Enduring Order Administrator (Savior Of The Broken) [Servitude] ●●○

I think the "savior" had 3 dots before? Or did it?

The Savior of the Broken intimacy did have three dots before. Which is funny since it went down because Taylor was doing that very thing...just for the wrong person from Saki's view.


EoA is trying to avert not one (Endbringers), not two (Scion), but three (Auto-bot dying) apocalypses.


Even with all that, I don't think the decision to rehabilitate Riley was made lightly, or while singularly focused on 'save the world, no matter the cost'. But I can see how Saki feels that way considering her trauma and how the person who caused it isn't being Birdcaged for it.

The only thing I can think of to help with this is for Taylor to hear Saki out, let her vent if necessary. Then perhaps explain her own reasoning. But Saki has the edge (at least I think she does, regarding mechanics) in any conversation with Taylor...

maybe they both need to be in Clarity.
 
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Alright, the Chapter has been updated with Character Sheet Updates and the character sheets themselves are (I'm pretty sure!) similarly updated.

Worth noting is that I (finally) noticed that the XP Log has been displaying the amount of current unspent Assembly XP incorrectly, since the formula I'm using for it was effectively duplicating any unspent character XP. The only long-term solution for this is to either go back and re-calculate and re-enter every time we spent Assembly XP, or to just manually zero-out unspent character xp until we finally spend it. Obviously, I'm going to be doing the latter.

If people REALLY are desperate for more XP, then they're welcome to slog through the backlogs and fix this problem for me. I've gone ahead and opened up the Current XP and a new FIXED ASSEMBLY XP sheet in the XP Log Googledoc for people to play around with. It's worth... ehh... 4 XP? Maybe more, depending on how long it actually takes. Shoot me a PM if you're working on it and need permissions help.

Another XP-worthy task is the usual Omake/Art links that I've been forgetting to put into the Story Index. If people want to go through and figure out what hasn't been linked yet and PM me a properly-formatted list that I can just plop right into the Index, that'll be worth another chunk of XP.

For reference, as of this post we have 17.5 Assembly XP, and each character has 2 XP in their own pool.

Gonna work on the voting options to get things rolling, so expect them later tonight.
 
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Ok, luckily I kept a version of the index to compare to the new one.
We got:
EOA:
Director Martin Uriel (I Wish He Wasn't Such An Ass) [Illusion] ●●●● (this was 3/4 before)
Iris of Innovation (Keep His Terrifying Power Focused Or Risk Vengeance) [Emotion|Anxiety] ●●●● (this was 3/4 before)
Legend (How Much Is The Hero And How Much Is Cauldron) [Emotion|Reservation] ●●●○ (this was 2/4)
Lord Crushing Grasp (Peacock In Scorpion Form) [Illusion] ●●●○ (this was 2/4)
Some clarity and willpower changes, but more importantly:
Peripheral: 27/58 [ISF(6), IEU(12), SPU(4)]
Sleep: Rested
Mental Integrity: Stressed
She is currently using both IEU and SPU.
Some training interval changes.


FPoP: (Sidenote, Gromweld why are you reordering half the intimacies each time?)
Miss Militia/Hannah Smith (Tempered By Service) [Emotion|Respect] ●○○ (didn't exist)
Eye of Autochthon (Care For Collateral, For It Will Not) [Illusion] ●●● (didn't exist)
Peripheral: 43/53 [ISF(10)]
Mental Integrity: Shocked
Currently on Clarity one like Taylor.

WoRI:
Possible reputations to buy.
Enduring Order Administrator (Savior Of The Broken) [Servitude] ●●○ (this was 3/3)
Lord Crushing Grasp (Delightfully Learned, Loquacious, Lewd) [Servitude] ●●● (this was 2/3)
EOA/Dragon (Workshop Waifus) [Illusion] ●○○ (new)
FPoP/Anyone But Bladedancer (DODGE THIS) [Illusion] ●○○ (new)
Enduring Order Administrator (Blinded By The Big Picture) [Emotion|Frustration] ●○○ (new)
Peripheral: 44/51
Sleep: Rested
Mental Integrity: Anxious
And on clarity one.

Iris:
Reputation (The 4th Endbringer) ●●○○○ (new, finally we get some benefits from this sphere).
First Prayer of Perfection (Sufficiently Respectful) [Illusion] ●●●● (new)
Respiration: Limited
Available: Charging...
Mental Integrity: Focused

Lord Grasp:
Respiration: Ugh.
Mental Integrity: Mourning
No new intimacies for Lord Grasp? Not even an Iris intimacy? (My universe is gone was already there, but still no Iris intimacy?)
 
FPoP: (Sidenote, Gromweld why are you reordering half the intimacies each time?)
Because I am a fickle and tempestuous god.

EOA/Dragon (Workshop Waifus) [Illusion] ●○○ (new)
FPoP/Anyone But Bladedancer (DODGE THIS) [Illusion] ●○○ (new)
I forgot to put these two in from Chapter 9.3.
No new intimacies for Lord Grasp? Not even an Iris intimacy? (My universe is gone was already there, but still no Iris intimacy?)
I'm not bothering with growing/shrinking intimacies for the Familiars, because they're already a big enough hassle for the main characters. Intimacy management is, like, half of the work I need to do each update for the character sheets and it's really freaking annoying. Lord Grasp will get a full Intimacy for Iris soon, I'm just tracking it in my head.
 
-Again, thanks for taking the time to post this at ~4.30am your time.
Most appreciated.

-Penny is having nightmares. Given her control issues, this could go very badly.
We don't even know if all the old Philly Wards parents survived the Nine; I mean, the death toll is less than 1% of the city population, so they're low-risk.
And the PRT would have prioritized their evacuation when shit went south. Still, it's good to confirm.

- Iris being moved to Brockton Bay is interesting, since if he's at the Cradle, it means he's literally hovering in midair several hundred feet over the BB Crater. I trust that after he survived Behemoth at close range, the USAF will know better than to try to nuke him.
If nothing else, his new 4th Endbringer Rep will keep the knowledgeable away from poking the Happy Fun Ball.

-Noting that Prayer's Intimacy towards Iris is significantly more neutral than Taylor's.
And that Saki has no Intimacy towards him.

- Lord Grasp's furnishings are spectacular.

-Cauldron needs someone to look through Mannequin's brainmeats for timebombs.
And Manton's for insanity. And Saki just showed up with POS submods that need to be tested.
What a coincidence :V

I guess she's going to get the hard sell.

The world vibrates as one, sounding out a single word that transcends language.
Just going to note that the only other parahuman/person who communicates directly in people's heads is Ziz.
Just so people realize the level of freakout going on here.
The only reason why they aren't throwing everyone into Master/Stranger confinement is because RCB/Alexandria can't afford to be quarantined.

And that it didn't stop the Alchemicals/spirits anyway.
As far as anyone can tell (after a few off-camera checks are made), the terrifying display wasn't even felt outside of the rooms everyone was in - though Dragon seemed especially unsettled that the spirit had frozen her as well. Probably something to do with her rumored health issues that prevent her from being seen outside? Or maybe it messed up all the multi-tasking she was doing?
Oh dear.
Iris, what have you done now? Tell me you didn't crack the Birdcage accidentally on purpose?

You didn't feel like adding even more awful revelations to your day by pressing for a complete answer there, but you're starting to understand why there isn't a public story for that yet.
The rumors must be spectacular, though. And increasingly outlandish, the longer this goes on.
Surprised the PRT and the US govt managed to keep a lid on things this long.

Good chance that Saki might be involved in crafting the public response.
After that decision, the rest of the meeting begins to blur together - to the point where you only realize it's over when Miss Militia presents you with a cup of water…
… and you're in a completely different room, sitting on a couch.
Alloyed Reinforcement of Flesh is obviously not calibrated right, if she's falling asleep after a mere twelve hours or so.
Or she could simply have been bored, which is just as likely.

There's a pause in her typing, then she frowns. "Is a… 'Meat Lover's' alright?"
You nod, still sipping, being careful not to let the growing smile show. Lewd pizza is best pizza
. Is there a way you can get Miss Militia to pick up the pizza herself? And record it, of course.
Everyone's going to have to be wary of Saki using innuendo at their expense,now, aren't they?

"Who wanted twenty inches of meat in their face!?" Clockblocker crows, making Miss Militia grumble loudly beside you.
"Psh, you're not even half that," Who laughs, the baseball-themed Ward jeering through her opaque faceplate as she follows in behind Clockblocker with a slap to his armored rear.
Huh.
That is deliberately ambiguous.
Either Aisha's gotten over her crush and is treating him as a really close friend, or she and Dennis have moved beyond making moon eyes at each other in the past week.

To be a fly on the wall for the big brother talk from Brian.....
Xylophone and Mjolnir silently fill in behind the rest, the silent bruiser carrying a large pink box in one hand as he politely closes the door behind him-
Yeah, we should probably do something for Mjolnir.
Nice kid.

Even Penny gives you a wary pat on the shoulder, though the deep circles under her eyes make her look as haggard as you feel.
This is...concerning.
Given Penny's issues, VERY concerning.
It could be the trauma of having been torched by Burnscar that's still giving her nightmares, if we're lucky.
Or it could be something else.

"Bobby's family is taking a vacation to a few national parks,"
Noted the clever evasion of Missy Belle Biron's exact circumstances.
You really are enjoying milking the uncertainty:V
Or keeping your options open. Possibly both.

I prefer the evil GM milking player distress theory, for the record:V
Oh, and Bobby's parents survived the Nine. Nice to know.
You freeze. That… ok, that wasn't what you were expecting. It's… good? Yes, good. But… that doesn't explain why Aisha still looks like she's scared of you asking more questions.
The fact that Saki turned to Aisha for answers?
Helps establish Aisha's characterization here.
Nice touch.

"So..." you reluctantly keep her gaze, even though you know where this is headed. "Taylor's trying to... save... her?"
A slight nod, but with a regretful frown. "We no longer can afford waste, but she must prove worth the risk. After, she must save herself."
Interesting choice of words on Prayer's part.

… and then resolves into four figures, each dressed for war in their own ways. The two males favor weaponry, with the first armored efficiently and carrying an ornate, golden, seven-sectioned staff while the other wears practically nothing and hefts an egregiously-oversized hammer of burnished starmetal. The two women share a similar theme; the first is armored like what you'd expect from a fantasy battle-monk, while the second is basically wearing a ballgown and wielding paper fans.
First guy is confusing, since he's probably a Solar(Ori staff)since no First Age MA allows the seven section staff AND armor, and that is an MA weapon.
Guessing he's into Solar Melee charms.

Second guy is definitely a Sid, and is using either Celestial Monkey, Silver-Voiced Nightingale or the SMA Citrine Poxes of Contagion, which all allow the hammer. Or possibly Sid Melee charms.

First lady is an SMA user because she's unarmed, either Solar or Sid; even a Solar Solar Hero Stylist would be packing smashfists or something in the Primordial War, as would a Lunar. Prismatic Arrangement of Creation, Border of Kaleidoscopic Logic, Quicksilver Hand of Dreams and Scarlet-Patterned Battlefield are all no-armor, no weapons.

The second lady is using either Celestial Crane or Dreaming Pearl Courtesan, which both are no-armor and war fans.
No clue as to Exalt type.
"This worked because… spirits… are our function. It is the lens through which we see the world, the drive that bids us rise from lethargy, the meaning behind every action we take, and the wellspring of our contentment. While some may have dreams of more, it is always rooted in the growth of their domain."
You blink, more than a little shocked at how much this sounds like the fragments of shintoism you absorbed through your parents' ambivalence towards religion. You almost feel bad for not having learned more about it - and a little surprised that Taylor didn't mention this in her presentation?
It does, doesn't it?
I foresee Saki getting significantly more religious in the future. And exploring her Japanese heritage.
Gives her a frame of reference for explaining Creation and Autochtonia to other people.

Might not have occurred to Taylor because she wasn't raised Shinto.
Also, you're pretty sure that guy with the hammer is winking at you while eyeing his hammer with a grin and arched eyebrows. By the Law of Lewdness you are forced to nod in approval, and you're pretty sure that must be "Kazin" that Lord Grasp mentioned before.
:rofl::rofl::lol:rofl::rofl:

"I am Crushing Grasp, the spirit of a long-lost, long-forgotten Mark III Siege Pagoda, and it is only through dedication to my purpose and the bond between master and familiar that gives me the strength to remain."
The four figures glance at Lord Grasp's representation, growing wistful or chagrined.
And we get a GM statement on where exactly Grasp's material body got to.
Given the reactions of the four figures, I'm betting that one of those Exalts was responsible for the circumstances under which it was lost.

"W-what?! You mean run away-?!"
"Please, Warden,"
he huffs, throwing up his claws in exasperation. "I never run away. Tactical retreats are another matter, of course…"
All the figures nod in very serious agreement at that.
Thank the Maker!
I was worried that Valor 5 might mean refusing to retreat, and wondering how anyone with Valor 5 survived the Primordial War.
Entirely possible that a final stand of that sort might have been involved in the loss of Grasp's original pagoda body.

… and with a slow, solemn wave, the figures disperse.
"Perhaps we should not repeat our mistakes."
:hugs:

"What is it that you want to do?"

You… haven't really ever considered… what you would want to do... by yourself. There are ships and pairings and snacks and boys that you've maybe wanted alongside Sakura, and the last few days have been nothing but trying to figure out what you want to do with Taylor and Prayer…
No, not like that.
Maybe like that?
Okay, I think we have a pretty strong handle on who Saki is.:)
And it turns out that separation of the Twins might be good for their individual growth, by forcing them to stand on their own and grow in ways they may previously not have.
Tough love on Autobot's part there.

For some reason, he doesn't understand the concept of 'back pains'. There's no way she could have not had to deal with that… right? And how did she do magical kung-fu in a dress with those things?!
Something to experiment with later, maybe. When no-one's looking. Because you have taste.
Yup.
A VERY strong handle on who Saki is.
:V

Careful what you wish for, Saki.
"Ms. Kurosawa," the Mediterranean woman in a trimmed business suit greets you evenly, looking up from the open portfolio she is carrying in her left hand.
"This way, please," she calmly offers, gesturing with her free right hand down the white corridor behind her while snapping the portfolio closed. "We have been waiting."
+1 Style points, Contessa.
Pity you aren't an option for our Assembly.

Taylor obviously isn't here; if she was, she is the person who would be asking Saki over.
Not a stranger doing the parahuman equivalent of waving at the attractive teenager from inside a white van.
So Cauldron is making an independent play for a private audience.

On one hand, I can see why Cauldron would be very motivated to secure the cooperation of a Social Exalt, let alone one who can teleport and shapeshift. They don't even need to be acting in bad faith, though I fully expect them to be willing to exploit any wedge they can see in the Assembly.
On the flip side, I'm pretty certain that Cauldron don't yet understand what Manipulation 7, Socialize 3, (+Quiet Observations 1), Investigations 2(+Body Language 1), Stunt 2 means for a conspiracy that's trying to compartmentalize information.

Going to note that since Saki didn't get any dinner last night?
Contessa might actually try offering breakfast to get Saki to walk through the hole in midair to talk with the shady people in the white van nice people extending an invitation.
 
Going to note that since Saki didn't get any dinner last night?
Contessa might actually try offering breakfast to get Saki to walk through the hole in midair to talk with the shady people in the white van nice people extending an invitation.

Nice analysis. Just a note though: given teleport and Grasp, white van-ishness probably is not really relevant to Saki.
 
-Penny is having nightmares. Given her control issues, this could go very badly.

I know Penny is Yan, but why would nightmares be a trigger unless it fuels her paranoia. (Isn't being a real life yandere basically a mix of Paranoia, Sociopathy and Personality Disorder?)

-Cauldron needs someone to look through Mannequin's brainmeats for timebombs.
And Manton's for insanity. And Saki just showed up with POS submods that need to be tested.
What a coincidence :V

Who is this Manton you are talking about? The Custodian is getting to meet her 'sister', who happens to have zebra skin and wear no clothes, the exhibitionist.


Not a stranger doing the parahuman equivalent of waving at the attractive teenager from inside a white van.
So Cauldron is making an independent play for a private audience.

I've heard that Contessa is not the best at asking the right question, and Cauldron does have their own form of Master/Stranger protocols, but... Is taking the world-spaning, possibly dimension-jumping, teleport into your top-secret conspiracy base really a good idea?

On one hand, I can see why Cauldron would be very motivated to secure the cooperation of a Social Exalt, let alone one who can teleport and shapeshift. They don't even need to be acting in bad faith, though I fully expect them to be willing to exploit any wedge they can see in the Assembly.
On the flip side, I'm pretty certain that Cauldron don't yet understand what Manipulation 7, Socialize 3, (+Quiet Observations 1), Investigations 2(+Body Language 1), Stunt 2 means for a conspiracy that's trying to compartmentalize information.

So what would be the dice math be? Contessa: Why are we doing all of this? Because I need an army to fight Him." vs. Saki "Ano, how is that army going to organize itself?" *Lord Grasp nodding in the background*
Roll Join Debate!
 
Nice analysis. Just a note though: given teleport and Grasp, white van-ishness probably is not really relevant to Saki.
Poison is, though.
Both inhaled and otherwise ingested.
And note that she actually hasn't seen that video of Grasp's weapon testing, though Cauldron certainly have, so she doesn't know how effective Grasp can be as a bodyguard.
I'm not bothering with growing/shrinking intimacies for the Familiars, because they're already a big enough hassle for the main characters. Intimacy management is, like, half of the work I need to do each update for the character sheets and it's really freaking annoying. Lord Grasp will get a full Intimacy for Iris soon, I'm just tracking it in my head.
You might want to consider homeruling it to be closer to the 3E method for managing Intimacies/Motivations, which groups them by importance and allows you to maintain as many as are actually important to you.
I think EarthScorpion's/Aleph's homebrew use a similar system, though I'm not sure about that.
I'll shoot you a PM explaining this better.
 
I know Penny is Yan, but why would nightmares be a trigger unless it fuels her paranoia. (Isn't being a real life yandere basically a mix of Paranoia, Sociopathy and Personality Disorder?)
She already has powers that react to her emotions, and are definitely lethal.
She could quite easily kill someone while having a nightmare, and the eyes suggest she isn't sleeping well at all.

Who is this Manton you are talking about? The Custodian is getting to meet her 'sister', who happens to have zebra skin and wear no clothes, the exhibitionist.
Lols.

I've heard that Contessa is not the best at asking the right question, and Cauldron does have their own form of Master/Stranger protocols, but... Is taking the world-spaning, possibly dimension-jumping, teleport into your top-secret conspiracy base really a good idea?
Assume Cauldron are appropriately cautious.
And are holding this meeting at an alternate safehouse on a different world from their home base, just like they did with Taylor.
That's certainly what I'd do, and I assume Cauldron are smarter than me.
 
Is taking the world-spaning, possibly dimension-jumping, teleport into your top-secret conspiracy base really a good idea?
Who says they're doing that? They could easily have an off-site facility on another alternative earth far away from their real base. They already use Doormaker for everything anyway, having a conference room for dangerous meetings somewhere else seems rather simple.
 
The Savior of the Broken intimacy did have three dots before. Which is funny since it went down because Taylor was doing that very thing...just for the wrong person from Saki's view.

She has PTSD from Bonesaw, and Bonesaw also left a LOT of far more broken people behind. Expecting her to be able to be able to respond dispassionately (without being in 5+ clarity) is unrealistic. Alchemical or not.

I doubt she would go berserk enough to implant memories of torture to Bonesaw or anything, but expecting somekind of justice is not unreasonable from someone who suffered horribly. Right now, Bonesaw basically got away with no punishment at all for her actions (she was actually rewarded, by getting to study alchemical/souls/essence, and work with Iris). Even with all the mitigating factors, that has to sting.

I could potentially see her increasing Bonesaws compassion (if its at 1, it might even be healthy to put it to human normal of 2) or somesuch though, and justifying it to herself as helping redeem Bonesaw even better.

Ultimately though, I figure that frustration intimacy would not really set in unless we did other acts that were somehow unethical or immoral, for the "bigger picture". Like faking deaths of major S9 figures, lying to PRT and delivering them to Cauldron. Whoops.

Still, thats just two dots. I think 3 are required for it really to set in.

EoA is trying to avert not one (Endbringers), not two (Scion), but three (Auto-bot dying) apocalypses.

True, but willingness to do absolutely everything for the "greater good" apparently does not fit Sakis worldview well. Road to hell and all that. Presumably if we could properly justify things (such as revealing Jack Slash was a thinker), we might be able to mitigate the damage. Really, lets just blame Jack Slash for everything!

maybe they both need to be in Clarity.

That would just delay the issue, since the emotions would come back once clarity comes down.

I've heard that Contessa is not the best at asking the right question, and Cauldron does have their own form of Master/Stranger protocols, but... Is taking the world-spaning, possibly dimension-jumping, teleport into your top-secret conspiracy base really a good idea?

Its highly unlikely that they would take Saki to their actual base. No doubt they will take her to one of the locations designed for meeting people in. Such as the one Taylor visited. Apparently they have several. Heck, they might be taking her to some random isolated safehouse in Earth!Bet even.
 
True, but willingness to do absolutely everything for the "greater good" apparently does not fit Sakis worldview well. Road to hell and all that. Presumably if we could properly justify things (such as revealing Jack Slash was a thinker), we might be able to mitigate the damage. Really, lets just blame Jack Slash for everything!


*salt over Exalting nice people/friends over mature people intensifies*
Prayer is currently best girl, no second thoughts, 10/10 would Exalt again.
 
I doubt she would go berserk enough to implant memories of torture to Bonesaw or anything, but expecting somekind of justice is not unreasonable from someone who suffered horribly. Right now, Bonesaw basically got away with no punishment at all for her actions (she was actually rewarded, by getting to study alchemical/souls/essence, and work with Iris). Even with all the mitigating factors, that has to sting.
And she did get it.
Jack Slash got vivisected by Vision,and his remains were field executed by Eidolon/Legend.

I can sympathize with her pain while disagreeing about the culpability of an 11-year old.
There is a reason why we do not allow crime victims to determine the sentence of people involved in the crime.
I could potentially see her increasing Bonesaws compassion (if its at 1, it might even be healthy to put it to human normal of 2) or somesuch though, and justifying it to herself as helping redeem Bonesaw even better.
Obligatory warning:
Compassion does not solve all problems.

A Compassion 5 doctor might decide that devoting his life to caring for people with dementia is compassionate.
Another Compassion 5 doctor might decide that the most compassionate thing to do is to euthanize them and use their organs to fix up other people with organ failure. It depends on the person and their personality, as well as interaction with their other Virtues.

Fiddle with Virtues carefully.

Canon Riley's problem was never an issue of Virtues anyway; it was her Intimacies and Motivation.
Change that, and everything else realigns.
Still, thats just two dots. I think 3 are required for it really to set in.
Yup.
 
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9.5 Voting: Voting Options, Discussion Start
Well! Certainly a lot of information that's been a long-time coming, the fate of Creation, our accelerated timeline, the plan to reformat the world to allow for essence, and the (tentative) plan to save Autochthon. Still a bunch of past votes (mostly Free Actions) rolling around in the queue, but we'll get to those soon enough; there's a few things we need to settle before we continue forward.

With Saki's emergence, Glenn and the PRT are finally getting around to the realization that this "Alchemical" nonsense is only going to keep getting bigger and needs a public explanation. After all, as the saying goes: "once is a fluke, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." With that in mind, the PRT wants to stop spending effort on the whole "Case 53" story for Taylor, and then publicly announce that Taylor, Prayer, and Saki are a new breed: "Alchemical Parahumans," full-conversion cyborgs by the mysterious Tinker "Autochthon" who resides in a different parallel dimension. Taylor and the Assembly will be working with Glenn and the other PR heads to sort out all the smaller details, but the long and short of it is that the public message wouldn't try to convince people of all the Exalted craziness, instead keeping things close enough to the Parahuman status-quo to effectively be considered similar to Case 53s (and would overwrite Prayer's Reputation(Case53)). After all, looking at it from afar, all this Alchemical business isn't really that much different than the usual brand of Parahuman bullshit... just cranked up to 11.

Of course, there are all kinds of good and bad ramifications to this public outing - power-hungry people/parahumans coveting the conversion process, for example - but the fact of the matter is that the PRT is going to need to say something soon. We'll likely get a chance to shape the message in some way if we choose to tell the PRT to wait now, but how much and what kind of message it would be is unknown.

Speaking of public stories, the official explanation for what the heck went down at the end of the Slaughterhouse Nine arc is basically, "call us if you were hurt or lost something, we're still gathering testimonies to figure it out." The PRT would like to say they've figured it out, but we've accrued enough capital by ending the S9 that we have some say on what the official story will be. How much truth do we want to let out? Naturally, this ties into the "Alchemical Parahuman" vote, and the two will influence each other.

We've put it off long enough, but it's time to make a decision: what are we getting from Cauldron for turning over the S9 members they requested? Since we've chosen to only have Backing 2, we don't get to keep a running tab and Cauldron wants to settle their debts. To recap, we turned over 4 of the 5 they asked for, so that breaks down as follows:

- 4 S9 members = 9 "Credits"
- Resources 0->5 = 1 Credit
- Low Quality Vial = 1 Credit
- Medium Quality Vial = 2 Credits
- High Quality Vial = 3 Credits
- Access to any no-problematic parahuman on Earth-Bet = 1 Credit
- Access to any parahuman on Earth-Bet = 3 Credits
- Access to any parahuman in Cauldron's reach = 5 Credits
- Access to a specified alternate Earth = 4 Credits ("aquatic Earth that doesn't have humans", Earth-Aleph, etc.)

Arguments along the vein of "they should give us vials for free because we'll improve them" have been considered by Cauldron and will be discussed in the next Chapter, but will not impact this vote; this is to settle past debts, not discuss future collaborations. Also, it should be noted that our rewards do not have to be used by us - we could, for example, help build Accord's Ambassadors back up with vials and cash infusions, or purchase Tinkertech from the Toybox with the money.

Oh, and Sakura has been quite busy! Yes, life has been exciting as of late. Perhaps we should help her out?

Last but not least, we'll have an Interlude during the Discussion/Voting period. Whose shoulder should we peer over?


Alchemicals On Parade: (Choose ONE, ONE Stunt allowed!)
[ ] PRT Announces "Alchemical Parahumans"
[ ] Alchemicals remain a PRT "Ongoing Investigation"

The Week of Slaughter - Post-Mortem: (Choose ONE, ONE Stunt allowed!)
[ ] The Truth (Iris/Vision and Taylor did it. Stunt defines "The Truth.")
[ ] Blame Jack (Jack did it. Stunt defines "The Truth.")
[ ] Swamp Gas (Still-being-studied parahuman power/Tinkertech interaction did it. Stunt defines "The Truth.")

Our Cauldron Runneth Over: (Total of 9 Credits to spend, use the above-listed options, NO Stunts.)
Example vote for this, please use this format:
[X] 2 x Resources 0->5
[X] 1 x High Quality Vial
[X] 1 x Access to a specified alternate Earth

Autochthonia Adventure #27: Must Go Faster, MUST GO FASTER! (Choose ONE, NO Stunt!)
[ ] Overload The Engine
[ ] Turn Guns On Ceiling
[ ] Cut Losses, Kamikaze

Interlusions Of Grandeur: (Choose ONE, NO Stunt)
[ ] Bonesaw
[ ] Armsmaster
[ ] New Trigger


Free Actions: (Only ONE Free Action allowed per character!)
Free Actions should be phrased as stand-alone Stunts, so they must be 60 words or less (not counting the "Free Action" bit), be descriptive about what you're hoping to accomplish, and set the scene.


[ ] EOA - Free Action: [Insert Stunt-like action that could be performed during other activities.]
[ ] FPoP - Free Action: [Insert Stunt-like action that could be performed during other activities.]
[ ] WoRI - Free Action: [Insert Stunt-like action that could be performed during other activities.]


XP Expenditures should now be formatted as such:
[X] NAME - ? XP - Item ●●●○○
[X] NAME - ? XP - Item (Specialization ●●○)


VOTING DISCUSSION STARTS NOW
VOTING DISCUSSION ENDS
USE DISCUSSION TIME TO CRAFT STUNTS AND VOTING PLANS
 
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Jack Slash got vivisected by Vision,and his remains were field executed by Eidolon/Legend.

The trouble is, Saki does not have a negative intimacy towards Jack Slash, and its Sakis feelings that are the issue here.

Obligatory warning:
Compassion does not solve all problems.

I did not suggest taking Bonesaw to compassion 5. 2 is the "average" human value I believe, and does not require willpower checks to suppress and so on. With 1 being non-compassionate and 3 and higher getting more and more extreme. Correct?

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We should get atleast 1 or two vials. Perhaps 1 low quality for research, and 1 high quality for (possible?) use. That still leaves plenty of credits for other stuff.

The rest I will think about when I get home later (wonder if we could negotiate more credits by offering to heal Alexandria. Granted, we don't know about Sakis dimension yet, but once we do, its something we could ask "credits" for).
 
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Vial or two for SCIENCE, of course.
Access to other planet for destructive SCIENCE, maybe? Or, more relevantly - to explore possibility stuff Autochton there so as to not fuck up gravity and shit in inhabited solar system.

Access to any parahuman might be very useful. Because Saint.
IMO, either we defuse Saint ASAP or he explodes in faces of Assembly. This goes triple if we are not going with Truth, but given that there is Truth an then there is presentation of Truth, it is always relevant.
So....2 points vial + 3 points for access to Saint + 4 points to access another Earth.

Another Earth is "maybe", but vial and Saint, I think, are mandatory.

Autochthonia Adventure #27: Must Go Faster, MUST GO FASTER! (Choose ONE, NO Stunt!)
[ ] Overload The Engine
[ ] Turn Guns On Ceiling
[ ] Cut Losses, Kamikaze



....is Autochtonia going full Mad Max?


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As an idle thought, my dream Assembly would probably be some sort of Chevalier(Jade), MM(Moonsilver?), Legend(Ori), Contessa(Adamant or Soulsteel), Number Man(Starmetal), Dr. Yamada (Soulsteel or Starmetal or Adamant).
Half of those are highly moral, half amoral, all with good intentions and all care about greater good more than about their own everything.
Maybe not NM, in which case...Iunno, Accord? Huubris though. Still better than Saki as of yet.

And Yamada is token sane teemmate, of course.
 
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The trouble is, Saki does not have a negative intimacy towards Jack Slash, and its Sakis feelings that are the issue here.
*shrug*
We don't set policy based on Intimacies though.
I did not suggest taking Bonesaw to compassion 5. 2 is the "average" human value I believe, and does not require willpower checks to suppress and so on. With 1 being non-compassionate and 3 and higher getting more and more extreme. Correct?
I was using Compassion 5 as an example; sorry if I was unclear.
But like I said, there isn't any evidence that Riley is any less compassionate than normal.
 
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