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Shadow-86 said:
Would the doll be useful for us or Eggman though?
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I Don't think the doll would be very useful. AFAIK all it is is a High-speed remote-controlled drone that levitates off of the ground. maybe it could be useful to us if we enhance it more, but at a certain point, it's less tails doll and more Felt-covered Metal Tails.

Maybe we could see about stripping out some of it's parts so that we have a sort of stealth hovercraft unit.
 
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Pretty sure we've got Word of Frog that the doll wouldn't be good except maybe as a pilot... in which case why bother with it at all?
 
undead frog said:
He's a thing but well I'm not a fan of the creepypastas so whatever features will be limited to what you can implement inside a literal doll.
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undead frog said:
(re: Archie Tails Doll) Possible... but the transfomation thing is beyond your tech at the moment, at least as far as 'Dolls' are concerned.
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undead frog said:
Both are possible... and don't expect the Tails doll to be much more than a joke unless he's piloting another robot.
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Okay, got some time to double-check, and got some quotes on the Tails Doll thing. These combine to mean "Tails Doll will never be anything more than an animate doll" to me.

Admittedly, these're kind of old quotes, but still: We have Word of Frog that Tails Doll is not a viable combatant, likely a subpar scout unit, and- overall- completely useless for anything but piloting. And if that's what we want, well, why not just use a Pawn or something? We would honestly get more out of them.

...Screw it, I'm gonna go add "non-pilot Tails Doll" to the Veto list.
 
jjjwn said:
We should probably upgrade some of the classic badnikes like give the buzz bombers a sort of commander/queen
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Maybe the queen could link up with the buzz bombers, directing them towards vulnerable targets their simple ai wouldn't think to attack,

it could also have a huge abdomen to store buzz bombers, since they're fragile it could be well armored so that it could carry them past anti air fire.

Or it could have a cannon in place of a stinger, and launch the buzz bombers like a grenade launcher, it might even have a fabricator in it to build more buzz bombers.

Slykk1 said:
I'm thinking we could create variants of the Crabmeat that hide under sand, have other weapons in their claws,
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Maybe a sonic weapon, it could bury itself deep in the sand and when something is near they unleash a sound wave, disrupting the sand and turning it into quicksand, or just disorienting unsuspecting enemies above them

Slykk1 said:
have a really big claw with an inbuilt energy shield.
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I just imagined a hermit crab badnik, it's two claws would be for defense and melee attacks while the shell contains guns or missiles, it would fire all around it while the claws kept anything trying to stop it at bay.

Shadow-86 said:
Hmm, any other places we can hide the crabs, cause I can picture them hiding in forests that are close to beaches and water.
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Coconut crab badnik, have you ever seen the pictures of them on the trees? They're freaking scary.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
What about Moto bugs upgrades they deserve love two and a classic sonic enemy also I'm curious what kind of upgrades they would have maybe enhance speed
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Maybe they could drop things as they drive, like oil or caltrops, rather than fighters they would alter the battlefield.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
You know I realize something it's possible we could try to upgrade the tails doll I mean we have it and I'm definitely curious to see what kind of upgrades that creepy thing can get.
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It barely has any tech so maybe it could be part of the stealth team, we could add something to help it avoid scanners and turn the gem into a laser to cut through metal and make entry points for other badniks
 
I've honestly never understood peoples obsession with the tails doll. it just seems completely lame to me.

there were suggestions earlier about making a queen bee buzzbomber to be the boss for the lumber mill base that eggman wants us to build, I don't remember what stuff got suggested for that. I feel like somebody suggested weaponized honey but I might also be mixing that up with the Maple Syrup weapons that got suggested for Hey Ho
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
Both for us and Eggman we can use it as like a spy/recon/sabotage Plus it's very under used in sonic media there might be some potential with the tails doll
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Slykk1 said:
I Don't think the doll would be very useful. AFAIK all it is is a High-speed remote-controlled drone that levitates off of the ground. maybe it could be useful to us if we enhance it more, but at a certain point, it's less tails doll and more Felt-covered Metal Tails.

Maybe we could see about stripping out some of it's parts so that we have a sort of stealth hovercraft unit.
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Let's just shelve the doll for now and focus on other ideas before we think of upgrading just a doll.
 
Archmage Zoltan said:
there were suggestions earlier about making a queen bee buzzbomber to be the boss for the lumber mill base that eggman wants us to build, I don't remember what stuff got suggested for that. I feel like somebody suggested weaponized honey but I might also be mixing that up with the Maple Syrup weapons that got suggested for Hey Ho
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To be more specific, people were talking about making the Death Queen from Forces (aka "that thing Zavok was riding") its own independent boss, though I wouldn't object to the "Buzz Bomber-spawning giant bee" thing being made at some point, whatever form it takes; for all I know it could even be an upgrade option for the Death Queen.

And yes, Honey Bombers (Buzz Bomber variant that fires globs of honey) were, in fact, suggested at around the same time. I should know; not only am I keeping track, but I was the one who suggested them.
 
SaberFail said:
Maybe the queen could link up with the buzz bombers, directing them towards vulnerable targets their simple ai wouldn't think to attack,

it could also have a huge abdomen to store buzz bombers, since they're fragile it could be well armored so that it could carry them past anti air fire.

Or it could have a cannon in place of a stinger, and launch the buzz bombers like a grenade launcher, it might even have a fabricator in it to build more buzz bombers.

I just imagined a hermit crab badnik, it's two claws would be for defense and melee attacks while the shell contains guns or missiles, it would fire all around it while the claws kept anything trying to stop it at bay.
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I Like the idea of a queen Badnik dedicated to launching Badniks behind enemy lines, but if the buzz bombers only activate after landing, then they'll need to take off, and launching from tubes in the abdomen means they'll need to fly towards the frontlines. Maybe we could put them in armored "eggs" to be recycled after the battle, and deploy them after a set time?
SaberFail said:
I just imagined a hermit crab badnik, it's two claws would be for defense and melee attacks while the shell contains guns or missiles, it would fire all around it while the claws kept anything trying to stop it at bay.
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Did we make the Fortress E-100 variant? I'm thinking we could integrate one of those into a shell, and then have the hermit crabmeat badnik hauling it around hidden underground. When some Mobians think they're ready to attack the fortress from a safe distance, SURPRISE! THEY HAVE LEGS! AND CLAWS!
 
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I don't think we made a wolf theme badnick yet it Might be fun make one possibly there's an upgrade like an alpha version which could lead smaller versions of it to attack like a pack of wolves
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
I just think I had a pretty great idea for a new badnick boss
What about a Kitsune theme badnick boss it would have like Pyro technical abilities and illusion tech
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...I feel like this has already been suggested; lemme double-check real quick...

...yep, there're nine-tailed fox bosses in my document (though no mention of illusion; that is a reasonable upgrade path given the mythology though).
 
Sir Plusse said:
...I feel like this has already been suggested; lemme double-check real quick...

...yep, there're nine-tailed fox bosses in my document (though no mention of illusion; that is a reasonable upgrade path given the mythology though).
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Oh…
Well what about Cerberus badnick it could serve like A guard Maybe give each head different elemental weapons
And a hydra badnick as well it could fit into our egg gladiators.
 
Sir Plusse said:
...yep, there're nine-tailed fox bosses in my document (though no mention of illusion; that is a reasonable upgrade path given the mythology though).
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catxfighter_3_1 said:
Oh…
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What about regular kitsuni Badniks with the more Tails the stronger they are with 9 being the alpha.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
Well what about Cerberus badnick it could serve like A guard Maybe give each head different elemental weapons
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An actual Cerberus or just a boss Badnik called Cerberus?

catxfighter_3_1 said:
And a hydra badnick as well it could fit into our egg gladiators.
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Any more myths that can fit the gladiator theme?
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
Yes like an boss badnick called Cerberus Acting like the defender of the Main eggman base
The Minotaur, harpy, chimera, centaur, pegasus, Sphinx, and Griffin
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I especially like the Chimera. let's let the Egg Pawns play Lego with a type of badniks' structure. Maybe let them self-reassemble as well so that Sonic will have a boss fight that's just 50 Chimerae at once all working together.
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
Yes like an actual Cerberus Acting like the defender of the Main eggman base
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Hmm, how about three separate dogs so they can watch a different location, but once they're get enough damage the other two join the one damage and either help or join together into a actual Cerberus.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
The Minotaur, harpy, chimera, centaur, pegasus, Sphinx, and Griffin
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The minotaur, centaur, Chimera, and Sphinx I can see fitting. But not sure for the flying ones though.

How about Satyrs, Manticores, and the Calydonian Boar.
 
Shadow-86 said:
Hmm, how about three separate dogs so they can watch a different location, but once they're get enough damage the other two join the one damage and either help or join together into a actual Cerberus.


The minotaur, centaur, Chimera, and Sphinx I can see fitting. But not sure for the flying ones though.

How about Satyrs, Manticores, and the Calydonian Boar.
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That works too I really want to make like samurai or ninja badnicks then we can do a whole Yokai bosses
Maybe make a shogun badnick
 
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catxfighter_3_1 said:
Oni
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We'll probably need to use the Egg hammer bodies for them.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
tengu
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Definitely something that can help our air fleet either flying at our enemies or to dive bomb them from above.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
Gashadokuro
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So destroyed Badniks to make the body or a metal skeleton giant to be our boss.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
nekomatas
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What do you have in mind for this one?

catxfighter_3_1 said:
Kapas
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Would definitely help our sea based fleet and bases.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
especially a Kitsune
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Could even help our stealth teams as well.
 
Well nekomatas apparently they can raise the dead so maybe they would have very powerful electromagnetic controls/strings to puppet broken down badnicks to fight and powerful Pyro kinetic so flamethrowers make their tails shoot out fire

And yes it would be a giant metal skeleton for the gashadouko
 
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catxfighter_3_1 said:
Well nekomatas apparently they can raise the dead so maybe they would have very powerful electromagnetic controls/strings to puppet broken down badnicks to fight and powerful Pyro kinetic so flamethrowers make their tails shoot out fire
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Hmm, so one batch that control destroyed Badniks while the other can burn our enemies huh.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
And yes it would be a giant metal skeleton for the gashadouko
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Would it still have destroyed badnick remains as well?
 
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