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A World of Mud and Sweat - A Future Nation Development Quest

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[] Plan Sanity
-[ ] After some required planning (2 turns).
-[ ] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
-[ ] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
 
When will Egypt hold an election?

[X] After some required planning (2 turns).
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Allowance of foreign private investors to the Patriot Bonds?
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.

The Tobruk Plan Outline
[X] - Peace Keeping; the Libyan people will do what they want, but Egyptian arms will keep the peace.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] Yes; private investors are a massive source of income to be exploited investigated.
[X] - Annexation; a new province for Egypt.
 
[X] After some required planning (2 turns).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Annexation; a new province for Egypt.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.

For realsies this time
 
Why the nation building project in Libya? We're having a rough enough time of it in Egypt, and at least there we don't have people flinging rockets at us. Also, annexation seems quite likely to draw the ire of the world without outstanding benefit and puts us right back at bordering various warlords, except this time ones with legitimate claims on 'our' territory and with more internal dissent.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
 
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[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Peace Keeping; the Libyan people will do what they want, but Egyptian arms will keep the peace.
 
[X] Plan Sanity
-[X] After some required planning (2 turns).
-[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
-[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
 
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[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Peace Keeping; the Libyan people will do what they want, but Egyptian arms will keep the peace.
[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.

Unless you want to piss off absolutely everyone, there's no reason we should be annexing things, especially this early into the nation's lifespan. We'd have a foreign population to deal with and costs associated with pacifying it in the long term, both monetary and politically, without foreign support, much less whatever the people we're annexing and the people at home think.
 
Dadarian said:
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When will Egypt hold an election?
[ ] Immediately (next turn).
[ ] After some required planning (2 turns).
[ ] The infrastructure needs to be developed (3 turns).
[ ] Uhhh (4+ turns).
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[ ] Immediately (next turn).

We are in a position of popularity and need to act on it. Everything we've done so far has ended in relative success. We must seize the opportunity and secure our majority in parliament.

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Allowance of foreign private investors to the Patriot Bonds?
[ ] Yes; private investors are a massive source of income to be exploited investigated.
[ ] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
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[ ] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
We cannot allow foreign influence, especially in public bonds.

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The Tobruk Plan Outline
[ ] - Annexation; a new province for Egypt.
[ ] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
[ ] - Peace Keeping; the Libyan people will do what they want, but Egyptian arms will keep the peace.
[ ] - Exploitation; Egyptian funds expended will be repaid by new solar energy banks and tariffs out of Tobruk Harbour.
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[ ] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.

This was my plan from the jump. Independent Cyrenaica, aligned to us. Since Libya cant be fucked to keep the peace in the area, we will do it ourselves.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Peace Keeping; the Libyan people will do what they want, but Egyptian arms will keep the peace.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
 
[X] Immediately (next turn).
[X] No; foreign influence must be curtailed when dealing with any section of state finances, even public bonds.
[X] - Nation Building; stability begins with the establishment of peace, order, and good government.
 
I'm going to call it there, adding the Plan Sanity Tobruk vote to the rest of the Nation Building votes, as there was a tie otherwise.

Something'll be up soon(ish), along with some additional flavour domestically and around the world.
Scheduled vote count started by Dadarian on Apr 30, 2021 at 12:43 PM, finished with 14 posts and 12 votes.
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2078; The State of Cyrenaica
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    • The State of Cyrenaica
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    Overview: The Republic of Egypt had no interest in seeing a new province to further drain the domestic coffers, nor seeing the endless manpower and prestige drain of a Yemeny-style peacekeeping operation. Rather through the clever application of financial instruments, international goodwill, and Egyptian steel, a new nation will be borne. In the rubble of the Jaghbub Palace (soon to be the new seat of parliament), a small circle of bourgeoisie merchants, tribal leaders, and newly appointed militia commanders announced the creation of the State of Cyrenaica. International recognition was quick, started by the European Union, which created a positive feedback loop in legitimacy to President El-Harar's own regime. Flooded with good will, the first project issued by the Cyrenaican parliament was the repair of Tobruk Harbour. It was the hope of the new government to take advantage of international aide funds.

    Similar international funds, although originating from the mercurial financial-gambling world, were turned down without much hesitation by El-Harar. This reinforced an institutional precedent of refusing foreign financial presence, spreading an economic cooling effect. Whilst the largest international firms, primarily entertainment, fashion, and retail (along with smaller Italian ones), had retained their presence, many medium and small businesses chose to pack up and leave. The gap had allowed Egyptian businesses and multinational e-commerce chains to expand into the gap widely, but it was not enough. Unfortunately, not all services could be replaced which resulted in rapid inflation on certain luxury goods and a point of discontent by the middle class. While every citizen could have bread, milk, prayer, and broadband internet, they didn't have access to the newest kicks or the newer trucks without paying a premium.

    In the backdrop, domestic excitement took off. The first free elections in over sixty years brought a level of civic exhilaration and apathy in equal measure. Wherein some see it as a chance to secure a future for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and others a chance to secure the revolution, many were less than certain. A generation of unfree elections had left many of the masses passive to this first election, simply seeing it as a continuation of what was before. The freedom of the election, though a fact, was not a common perception. Some international experts had expectations under fifty percent for turnout. Nonetheless, polling stations were established, a date set and arrived, and citizens went to the polls. An election was beginning, and international talking heads held their breath.

    Vote: [Voting will start in 12 hours; or ~09:45 2021-05-06]

    Who do you vote for?
    [ ] El-Harar Independent.
    [ ] Technocrat Independent.
    [ ] Arab Communist.
    [ ] Islamist Conservative.
    [ ] Islamist Moderate-Democratic.
    [ ] Nasserist.
    [ ] Liberal.

    Engage in voter fraud?
    [ ] Yes
    [ ] No

    [RULES REMINDER: No Islamophobia will be permitted on this thread. Furthermore, I'm vetoing any far-right write-ins because I refuse to write that quest. All votes will be tallied in the end, with them proportionally distributed in the parliament [excepting shenanigans and independent events]].
     
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    • [ ] Technocrat Independent.
    [ ] No


    I believe the only one we really shouldn't vote for is the current leader, to build up Voter confidence.
     
    [] El-Harar Independent.
    [] Yes

    Everyone who's grown up in a post-revolution developing country knows that ballot-box stuffing, voter intimidation and criminal elements that just happen to target one socioethnic group is a time-honored tradition.
     
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