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    • You go downstairs to eat, but you are stopped by Carlo. He starts questioning you in angry tone, but you can detect a hint of concern. "Where were you? You have been gone two days."

    You calmly respond with "I went out of town to get some skins so I can try to earn some money. But I got lost, and I only got one pelt anyways."

    "Stop lying to me. I am not going to accept that bullshit story." He starts ranting at you. "I certainly didn't see you with a spear, and I know you don't know how to use a bow. What were you even going to hunt with? Not to mention, the only place you are going to get lost in around here, where you can't see the huge fucking city, is the forest. And you have better not have gone in there again and risked your life, for whatever stupid reason. I know your father left you enough money to get by."

    He lowers his voice almost to a whisper and starts speaking to you in a concerned tone "Look, I know your father died, and it has been hard on you. But, I know he wouldn't have wanted this. Just tell me the truth, I can help you."

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    BBBence1111 said:
    No Rolls for other stuff or we failed so hard that we can't do anything else?
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    Depends on how this goes. The day is still salvageable.
     
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    • I say that we tell the truth, but not all of it. As in, we were gone for two days because we got stuck in a cave in, but managed to dig ourselves out... Come to think of it, when was the last time we ate? Or drank water? Or went to the bathroom? Does the Regeneration-meaning-that-we-don't-need-to-eat-as-much-Theory have some merit after all?

    These are important questions that must be answered before a response can be formulated... ;...;
     
    Is magic legal/normal to have? Like, if we say we can do it, and show him our ice spell, will he be like "That's cool.", "Where did you get the money to learn this?" or "Burn the Witch!"
     
    BBBence1111 said:
    Is magic legal/normal to have? Like, if we say we can do it, and show him our ice spell, will he be like "That's cool.", "Where did you get the money to learn this?" or "Burn the Witch!"
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    There's a magic shop...

    I think that the greater problem will be him wondering why we went and bought an ice spell (and a fire spell, although it's not as useful, seeing as how it's basically just singeing things as opposed to being a spell that basically shoots shoddy enchanted swords at people) with the money that we found in the burned wreckage of our house instead of a spell for feeding ourselves, or a house, or paying for an apprenticeship with a respectable mage (because yes, you payed people to let you be their apprentice back then), or something.
     
    [X] Well, I can't use those but I know how to use a sword! And I can use magic! I bought a basic spellbook, and I used a spell to hunt. *If he asks, show it to him.*
     
    We have a pelt to 'prove' we went hunting, and we can either show him the ice bolt pamphlet if we still have it or the spell itself and/or the sword on our person to show what we went hunting with.

    If we go the 'truth'-telling route, if we tell him about cave-in at all he will probably want to know where the tunnels are, giving up our hideout in the process.

    7 gold is a lot of money (for anyone who isn't an adventurer), but it is not enough to live off of forever.
     
    Dark Ness said:
    You couldn't afford a mage apprenticeship, they are at least 10 gold, and usually are higher then that. You could have afforded a apprenticeship to a craftsman or something, however.
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    So, if we were to just keep tabs on this guy (whose name I've already forgotten) so that we don't lose him when we're finally ready for our revenge, we could conceivably just go and pick up an apprenticeship with a respectable mage and have a place to train where nobody will look funny at the weird things that we do for quite possibly years? And we can just go out into the forest and eat the things that think we look tasty whenever we get hungry, and sleep in a cupboard? That's pretty much all of our needs right there, and a pretty good path to becoming awesome, if a complete novice can go and murder a whole ton of animals in a Death Forest with beginner spells learned for a few gold.

    As I said in my previous post, our Ice spell is basically just conjuring forth really bad quality enchanted swords out of air moisture and throwing them at people like a crossbow. We could slaughter your average (muggle world) knight with something like that, with a little range. And that's the kind of thing that anybody can learn with literally two or so hours of hard work. That's ridiculous.

    So, keeping in mind how broken our ice bolts are, think of how much more awesome the average trained Mage is. And we could, right now, afford an apprenticeship with one (although we'll have to find a way to keep tabs on that guy, if we're going for it. There's no way that we could take him right now, afterall, and say what you will about being patient, it's better than running headfirst into the meatgrinder that is the average Hero fight with basic skills and a lottery book of spells, but we don't want to give up our revenge; we're just making sure that it'll be successful).
     
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    I didn't mention this in the story post because Carlo wouldn't have, but the ice spell is very bad for pelt hunting. It didn't really matter for the feric wolf, since it was so big and you could only take some of its pelt anyways, but could you imagine hunting, say, rabbits with the ice spell? There wouldn't be much pelt left.

    chocolote12 said:
    if a complete novice can go and murder a whole ton of animals in a Death Forest with beginner spells learned for a few gold.
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    You really only did so well because of the heart you ate in the beginning and because you kept eating hearts, especially the elk heart. Without it, you would likely be dead. You couldn't tell (obviously) but without the physical boost, many of the dodge rolls, for example, would have gotten a penalty. With some of the creatures you were facing, this would have lead to death or major injuries. And without regeneration, your minor injures would have built up until you were either forced to return to town or succumbed to them.
     
    Dark Ness said:
    I didn't mention this in the story post because Carlo wouldn't have, but the ice spell is very bad for pelt hunting. It didn't really matter for the feric wolf, since it was so big and you could only take some of its pelt anyways, but could you imagine hunting, say, rabbits with the ice spell? There wouldn't be much pelt left.


    You really only did so well because of the heart you ate in the beginning and because you kept eating hearts, especially the elk heart. Without it, you would likely be dead. You couldn't tell (obviously) but without the physical boost, many of the dodge rolls, for example, would have gotten a penalty. With some of the creatures you were facing, this would have lead to death or major injuries. And without regeneration, your minor injures would have built up until you were either forced to return to town or succumbed to them.
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    You make a good point about the quantity of furry creatures that the average novice mage could gun down with that spell, but I was actually talking about how no animals were really Ice-Bolt proof. The average novice can learn a spell that turns them from a delicate glass statue into a working (and not self-destructing) glass cannon. The only difference between us and them is that we're more like a regular iron cannon, instead of the Traditional Wizard glass most Magi are constructed from.
     
    Unless I mistaken, there was a river a few hours away from town where we cleaned up a bit. It is unlikely we would have been able to see town easily from there, right? Or was that in the forest as well?
     
    Totally should have gone for the wildebeests... At least that wouldn't have looked like were playing him for a fool with the lies (as long as it was done properly, and not played calm/straight). Of course with a roll of a 2, it might not have mattered.

    Anyway, we have to respond to the concern. Whether honest or a lie, we can't play the stoic unless we want to get kicked out.

    We can't really say, "I'm trying to find a secret hideout." And saying we were looking for someplace to live is fishy; why would we need to lie about that? Hmm.. We could possibly try to draw sympathy on our abysmal dice luck...

    [] Allow the facade to crack, allowing a certain degree of upset frustration to leak through.
    [] "I'm trying! I really am... My home is gone, and I can't stay here forever. I didn't have enough money to afford an apprenticeship. I figured I could get some books, to learn something from, or learn fighting or magic so I could fight. If I could hunt, well, I know how to work leather, some..."
    [] "But it just keeps failing! I can't understand all the fancy words in the books, and my fighting skills are horrible, and I nearly got myself killed just trying to use magic to clean a room up!" <nearly in tears by this point>
    [] "My dad... my dad is dead, but I have to keep trying.. I have to show him he can be proud of me.. that I won't just end up dead in a ditch, or sold to a.. to.. that I can actually take care of myself!"
    [] "If I fail at one thing, I'll just keep trying something else; but I'm not giving up. And I did get a pelt!" <pouty defiance>
     
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    mrttao said:
    Average for IRL? sure.
    but the forest is terrifying because the average creature there is a monstrously powerful supernatural beast. a novice ice bolt will 1 shot a rabbit, it won't 1 shot a magical wolf
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    No, to a blatantly supernatural wolf who's shtick is killing and eating mages, assuming no magical powerups on the part of said wolf, the icebolts are basically flying swords and are about as effective against it. Flying, blunt-ish swords are a level one spell.Just saying.
    Kinematics said:
    Totally should have gone for the wildebeests... At least that wouldn't have looked like were playing him for a fool with the lies (as long as it was done properly, and not played calm/straight). Of course with a roll of a 2, it might not have mattered.

    Anyway, we have to respond to the concern. Whether honest or a lie, we can't play the stoic unless we want to get kicked out.

    We can't really say, "I'm trying to find a secret hideout." And saying we were looking for someplace to live is fishy; why would we need to lie about that? Hmm.. We could possibly try to draw sympathy on our abysmal dice luck...

    [x] Allow the facade to crack, allowing a certain degree of upset frustration to leak through.
    [x] "I'm trying! I really am... My home is gone, and I can't stay here forever. I didn't have enough money to afford an apprenticeship. I figured I could get some books, to learn something from, or learn fighting or magic so I could fight. If I could hunt, well, I know how to work leather, some..."
    [x] "But it just keeps failing! I can't understand all the fancy words in the books, and my fighting skills are horrible, and I nearly got myself killed just trying to use magic to clean a room up!" <nearly in tears by this point>
    [x] "My dad... my dad is dead, but I have to keep trying.. I have to show him he can be proud of me.. that I won't just end up dead in a ditch, or sold to a.. to.. that I can actually take care of myself!"
    [x] "If I fail at one thing, I'll just keep trying something else; but I'm not giving up. And I did get a pelt!" <pouty defiance>
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    This is a fairly good emotional response, but perhaps some more filler so that we don't jump straight to tears? I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the best with social situations, but I'm pretty sure that if we come off as attempting to manipulate him by going straight for the emotions he won't be so vulnerable to them in the future, and he'd not believe us besides, which is a shame because this is the closest to the truth that we're likely to get with him.
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    You did, though, and he knows that. Your dad wasn't exactly subtle about saving money.
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    For something useful that we didn't already know? Leatherworking is a pretty good business, if smelly, you know, but I imagine that repairing our house or buying a new one would cost more than what we had...
     
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    chocolote12 said:
    but perhaps some more filler so that we don't jump straight to tears?
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    This wasn't straight to tears, just approaching tears as all the frustrations she's had to deal with are suddenly brought to the fore; she doesn't actually reach the point of crying, just that deep emotional frustration. Should probably move that bit to the next line, though, as it's more appropriate there.
     
    Kinematics said:
    This wasn't straight to tears, just approaching tears as all the frustrations she's had to deal with are suddenly brought to the fore; she doesn't actually reach the point of crying, just that deep emotional frustration. Should probably move that bit to the next line, though, as it's more appropriate there.
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    Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry for my inexact wording; it often obfuscates conversations. What I meant was the "letting emotions show" bit, which, if we were actually trying to keep hidden (our real emotions, that is), we'd try to keep hidden a bit longer. That's all. It's fairly fine anyways.
     
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    chocolote12 said:
    No, to a blatantly supernatural wolf who's shtick is killing and eating mages, assuming no magical powerups on the part of said wolf, the icebolts are basically flying swords and are about as effective against it.
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    Honestly, I just didn't want to instant Bad End you on your first fight. You fought what was basically a puppy, just old enough to start hunting. If that wolf was a year older, you would be dead. Seriously, even now, against a experienced fenfric wolf, I wouldn't bet on you. These are enemies that usually require heroes to fight.
     
    Dark Ness said:
    Honestly, I just didn't want to instant Bad End you on your first fight. You fought what was basically a puppy, just old enough to start hunting. If that wolf was a year older, you would be dead. Seriously, even now, against a experienced fenfric wolf, I wouldn't bet on you. These are enemies that usually require heroes to fight.
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    ...We killed a puppy. :sad:
     
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