A school for the cursed: A Psyker Quest. Warhammer 40k quest.

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[ ] Plan: Trust & Discretion
-[ ] Psychic support:
-[ ] Sanctified stakes:
-[ ] Quicksilver Nodule: The Wyrdvanes will not know it, but implanted within each of their craniums will be a sealed capsule of blessed mercury. Upon the presence of daemonic energies, the mercury within will react violently enough to rupture the capsule and swiftly corrode every scrap of living tissue within the skull. For the unfortunate Psyker, it will be as though they simply fell to a slumber they shall never awake from. Does not cause decapitation or destruction of the head. Denies vessels for Daemonhosts. Requires access to Ministorum clerics entrusted with the rites to bless the mercury.

Gives the Wyrdvanes a visible tool for dealing with one of their own becoming possessed, and a failsafe that gives as dignified a death as can be managed to the poor unfortunate. Also gives our Wyrdvanes a relatively safe learning environment upon the battlefield; direct combat not only restricts the recruitment criteria, but throwing the Psykers who are explicitly not yet ready to handle the mental strain of their powers alone into the stress of direct combat seems a bit cruel. Also, the amount they'll interact with Blunts will hopefully allow their presence to become a bit more normalized.
 
[] Implanted micro-explosive inside the skull:
The Wyrdvanes will not know it. But they will have a flat micro-explosive implanted into their skull that can be detonated upon command. Half the explosive force of a bomb collar, none of the insecurity.
Guarantees the destruction of the head. Requires slightly delicate surgery to open the skull.

This good?

Edit: The shotgun thing is pretty risky imo, since it needs a live guardsman to use, which can be a hard to get resource in some events where the spyker loses it.
 
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SirKana said:
[] Implanted micro-explosive inside the skull:
The Wyrdvanes will not know it. But they will have a flat micro-explosive implanted into their skull that can be detonated upon command. Half the explosive force of a bomb collar, none of the insecurity.
Guarantees the destruction of the head. Requires slightly delicate surgery to open the skull.

This good?

Edit: The shotgun thing is pretty risky imo, since it needs a live guardsman to use, which can be a hard to get resource in some events where the spyker loses it.
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Ehhh. Bit of a cheat.

It will be a future research option!
 
SirKana said:
Edit: The shotgun thing is pretty risky imo, since it needs a live guardsman to use, which can be a hard to get resource in some events where the spyker loses it.
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Imperial doctrine says that psykers below a certain rank, and psykers in the field, never go without guard and minders unless they're Inquisitors, Astartes, Navigators, or of equivalent stupid high rank. So no, somebody tolerably trustworthy and competent to shoot the psyker is not a rare resource.

And unless you can draw a clear and significant distinction between a psychic event that renders a gun-equipped minder useless but does not render other minder-based methods useless (ie, does not prevent a commissar from flipping a switch but does prevent them from shooting point-blank), that's not actually a distinction in favor of one method or the other.
 
The Emperor's Peacs option is meant to be something that the Wyrdvanes arrange themselves. So they don't need the commissar to run over and start shooting at them.

Handling things internally helps keep things neat.
 
Another benefit of Quicksilver Nodule I just thought of is that due to the non-violent method of death, it preserves the maximum amount of Psyker parts to use (and is least likely to damage any of their bionics). Since there was a previous mention of Occam's original skin being valuable.
 
I'm really wary of the Shock Troop option. Taking people who don't have a good grasp over their psychic powers, telepathically binging them to somebody else who doesn't have a very good grasp either, and then putting them into a situation where one of them will die will the other one is under immense stress ... Doesn't seem ideal

Maybe if we were a telepathy specialist, them it might have worked out, but looking at it right now, it just seems like a chain reaction waiting to happen.

Also would this work? I tried to expand on the idea of guys with shotguns following our little psykers around in a way that doesn't end with us loosing have our people in a week because "well, he looked dangerous to me"

[ ] The Buddy System: each psyker will always be accompanied by a rotating roaster of specialist depending on the role they are expected to perform (Medics, Engineers, Communications Experts, Mechanics, etc.). These will be given a brief crash course on how to detect demonic corruption in both psyker and their work.
They will be part of a bureaucratic system of reports, allowing for the detection of more subtle and long-term forms of corruption. They are empowered to administer punishments ranging for the completely mundane to administering the Emperor's Mercy.
This ad-hoc bureaucratic organisation would answer to the regiments commissar and the primaris psyker in equal measures.
Pros: more interactions with non-psykers, more effective use of psychic powers in fields were they can be advised, higher chance of detecting subtle corruption, a chance of of a destroyed head
Cons: MORE INTERACTIONS WITH NON-PSYKERS, more personal work, chance of unnecessary deaths as a result of racism

Though if we can take it, I would only really recommend it for the support role, because that's were it could shine

P.s: Can we recruit the Ratling as a personal servant or something? It seems like it would be a waste to leave her here when she won't actually use her emperor given talents to the fullest. It's not like people could judge us any worse than they already do anyways, so there's no reason not to enjoy Ratatouille level food all the time. Or would that be opening a back-door for Slaneesh?
 
DeleteWolf said:
[ ] The Buddy System: each psyker will always be accompanied by a rotating roaster of specialist depending on the role they are expected to perform (Medics, Engineers, Communications Experts, Mechanics, etc.). These will be given a brief crash course on how to detect demonic corruption in both psyker and their work.
They will be part of a bureaucratic system of reports, allowing for the detection of more subtle and long-term forms of corruption. They are empowered to administer punishments ranging for the completely mundane to administering the Emperor's Mercy.
This ad-hoc bureaucratic organisation would answer to the regiments commissar and the primaris psyker in equal measures.
Pros: more interactions with non-psykers, more effective use of psychic powers in fields were they can be advised, higher chance of detecting subtle corruption, a chance of of a destroyed head
Cons: MORE INTERACTIONS WITH NON-PSYKERS, more personal work, chance of unnecessary deaths as a result of racism
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Again, the entire point of this is to establish the Wyrdvane's internal procedure for how to deal with one of their own becoming possessed. Subtle corruption is not terribly likely to work due to that whole 'being telepathically linked to each other at all times' thing.
 
Well think we should go with either artillery or support, I'm leaning more support because there might not be a lot of prestige in it but can imagine that the numbers we can turn out will definitely be noticed and appreciated still?
 
DeleteWolf said:
I'm really wary of the Shock Troop option. Taking people who don't have a good grasp over their psychic powers, telepathically binging them to somebody else who doesn't have a very good grasp either, and then putting them into a situation where one of them will die will the other one is under immense stress ... Doesn't seem ideal

Maybe if we were a telepathy specialist, them it might have worked out, but looking at it right now, it just seems like a chain reaction waiting to happen.

Also would this work? I tried to expand on the idea of guys with shotguns following our little psykers around in a way that doesn't end with us loosing have our people in a week because "well, he looked dangerous to me"

[ ] The Buddy System: each psyker will always be accompanied by a rotating roaster of specialist depending on the role they are expected to perform (Medics, Engineers, Communications Experts, Mechanics, etc.). These will be given a brief crash course on how to detect demonic corruption in both psyker and their work.
They will be part of a bureaucratic system of reports, allowing for the detection of more subtle and long-term forms of corruption. They are empowered to administer punishments ranging for the completely mundane to administering the Emperor's Mercy.
This ad-hoc bureaucratic organisation would answer to the regiments commissar and the primaris psyker in equal measures.
Pros: more interactions with non-psykers, more effective use of psychic powers in fields were they can be advised, higher chance of detecting subtle corruption, a chance of of a destroyed head
Cons: MORE INTERACTIONS WITH NON-PSYKERS, more personal work, chance of unnecessary deaths as a result of racism

Though if we can take it, I would only really recommend it for the support role, because that's were it could shine

P.s: Can we recruit the Ratling as a personal servant or something? It seems like it would be a waste to leave her here when she won't actually use her emperor given talents to the fullest. It's not like people could judge us any worse than they already do anyways, so there's no reason not to enjoy Ratatouille level food all the time. Or would that be opening a back-door for Slaneesh?
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This would be a later development beyond just some wyrdvanes you're going to be training.

Regarding the ratling.

Patience. ;)
 
[] Leading from the Front
-[] Psychic shock troops:
-[] Sanctified stakes:
-[] Implanted micro-explosives:

I get why people are hesitant about making the shock troops, but I think it aligns better narratively with Occam, considering our own priorities in making him a more physically capable psyker. We'll just need to be mindful, but it presents an interesting and dynamic challenge, something I think is less prominent with the other options. They're going to need to brave the fires of close combat eventually, but I think it's best to introduce that sort of thing in the company of both a capable mentor and their fellows, rather than alone as a primaris.

I'm open to any mercy option, but considering our psykers should be fairly close together, a stake oughta do the job. Having a more "fragile' option like the quicksilver node is counterproductive if we're going into melee range.
 
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Sir_Travelsalot said:
Again, the entire point of this is to establish the Wyrdvane's internal procedure for how to deal with one of their own becoming possessed.
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The problem is that this is literally impossible to do internally because we need at the very least one person per psyker, and we just don't know if we're allowed to just take these people (who wouldn't be just some bodies, but people with actual skills and qualio) without involving the regiment in any way
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Subtle corruption is not terribly likely to work due to that whole 'being telepathically linked to each other at all times' thing.
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I'm not talking about the psykers being subtlety corrupted. I worry that if we have a group of psykers that use their powers (specifically biomancy and telepathy) just as much on their allies as they do their enemies, that somebody is going to end up a mutant or possessed by a daemon. Or both. And I don't want that happening and going unnoticed until it's to late, because it would instantly destroy any rapport we had built with the troops.
 
go support, basically what we had, prestige will come as the unit we accompany will have greatest success with fewest losses
 
DeleteWolf said:
I'm not talking about the psykers being subtlety corrupted. I worry that if we have a group of psykers that use their powers (specifically biomancy and telepathy) just as much on their allies as they do their enemies, that somebody is going to end up a mutant or possessed by a daemon. Or both. And I don't want that happening and going unnoticed until it's to late, because it would instantly destroy any rapport we had built with the troops.
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That's... not a thing that can happen. The possession, that is; someone being the target of telepathy or biomancy does not make them susceptible to possession unless the telepathy itself is being done by the Daemon in question in the first place. As for the biomancy, that's specifically why their use cases are 'this person will 100% die if we don't do this', so if there's a mishap that cannot be undone the Emperor's Peace will be an option.
 
Mayto said:
This would be a later development beyond just some wyrdvanes you're going to be training.
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If that's the case, I think I'm for this combo then

[] Implanted micro-explosives:
[] Quicksilver Nodule:

We have a option that works on everything but demons and has a weakness to technology cancelling effects and one that works on demons and is immune to technology cancelling effects. Seems like a match made in heaven.

Sir_Travelsalot said:
That's... not a thing that can happen. The possession, that is; someone being the target of telepathy or biomancy does not make them susceptible to possession unless the telepathy itself is being done by the Daemon in question in the first place.
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We're dealing with 40k daemons and demonic corruption here. Simply being exposed to the warp once in the mildest of manners would make daemonic corruption significantly more likely.
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As for the biomancy, that's specifically why their use cases are 'this person will 100% die if we don't do this', so if there's a mishap that cannot be undone the Emperor's Peace will be an option.
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That is besides the point. My point was that you would need a professional to increase the chance of recognising when something went wrong and determining that the patient needs to be given the Emperor's Mercy, because (from what I've read from 40k so far) demonic corruption can be incredibly subtle
 
Consider that if your Wyrdvane survives and members become Primaris, they'll be expected to train their own Wyrdvanes.

So in the coming years, the Torvum Scholam Psykana could be leaning towards the bulk of their training being in.
Training squads of Psychic artillery to erase grid squares.
Raising Psyker Shock Troops to get into melee to flip tanks, level buildings, and wipe out whole squads of heretics at a time.
Psychic Support throwing around buffs and healing like candy to aid their comrades.
 
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[X]Plan M*A*S*H 40k
-[X]Psychic support
-[X]Sanctified stakes
-[X]Bomb collars
"Logistics always win or something"
-General Whoever from Whoeverville
 
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Would be weird if Occam hold on every head of Wyrdwayne he failed to stop from being possessed by Daemon? To be really, Imperium already has skull thing so it would work, especially if the skull of Wyrd has psychic imprint left.
 
Gabriel_TFA said:
Would be weird if Occam hold on every head of Wyrdwayne he failed to stop from being possessed by Daemon? To be really, Imperium already has skull thing so it would work, especially if the skull of Wyrd has psychic imprint left.
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Have them made into servo skulls that have speakers that constantly play holy mantras.

Nah... It would totally cramp or style.
 
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