A Naruto Mook Quest [The Gamer/Naruto]

King Arthur · Jan 7, 2016

ryuan said:
You know, I was meaning to ask, what's a BAMF?

It is both the sound Nightcrawler makes when he teleports as well as a race of small beings who look like Nightcrawler and can teleport in the same way he can.

So, when you call someone a BAMF you are calling them a pocket sized version of Nightcrawler.

ryuan · Jan 7, 2016

Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
Trondason

[x]Focus on fitness
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Socialize with the class in general
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 3
moon-llama, BlueArcher, GulibleLeprecon

[X] Plan Get Gud Scrub!
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
--[X] Challenge him to some toughness testing games. I listed one before, can't seem to link it directly now.
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
Daniel14541

[x]Focus on fitness
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Socialize with the class in general
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
Red Bovine

[x]Focus on fitness
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
-[x] once Leaf sticking is mastered ask sensei about more advanced chakra control exercises.
[x]Socialize with your friends
-[x] Naruto, hinata, Ino
[x]Focus on quests
[x]sprint to school each day
[x] cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka every time they're off cool down.
No. of votes: 1
sainen

[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on fitness
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 2
Corvo Montés, Astaroh-M

[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
mrttao

[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Hinata
-[X]Naruto
-[X]Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
-[X] Especially look for things that give training modifiers. Like your training weights.
[X] Look up some more chakra control techniques.
No. of votes: 1
Qeqre

[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
--[X] Ask her some minor details/precision about Yin Chakra. You're sure that with her clan speciality, she knows more than the average person on that subject.
No. of votes: 1
Sioks

[x]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 3
TotallyNotEvil, Iandude0, CatScannerDarkly

[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
[X] Keep using training weight and leaf sticking exercise at all times.
No. of votes: 1
Hanashinobi

[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
LordRevan

[div class="SpoilerTarget bbCodeSpoilerText"][x]focus on genjutsu
[x]focus on ninjutsu
[x]focus on ninjutsu
[x]Social option 1: Seek guidance from your sensei
[x]Social option2: practice ninjutsu with friends.
No. of votes: 1
Antarnoth

[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
NegativeHorizon

[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on Ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
The Froggy Ninja

[X] Focus on Ninjutsu,[X] Focus on Ninjutsu
[X] Focus on Genjutsu
[X]Socialize with the class in general
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to do a little Meditation at the end of the day to reflect on your daily events.
[X] Find out your elemental affinity.
No. of votes: 1
Hadiz

[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Find where to buy affinity paper.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
King Ofheros

[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Shikamaru
[X] Go shopping in a book store: buy books that promt to learn skills priorty finding books on: combat, warfare, meditation, Cooking and Herblore.
[X] Go shopping for ninja tools: elemental affinity testing paper and anything that can help us grind.
[X] Cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka before going to bed each night.
No. of votes: 1
Crabs

[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Seek guidance from your sensei
[x]Focus on quests
No. of votes: 1
Ceph

[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
--[X] Challenge him to some toughness testing games. I listed one before, can't seem to link it directly now.
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
[X] Go shopping in a book store: buy books that promt to learn skills priorty finding books on: combat, warfare, meditation, Cooking and Herblore.
[X] Go shopping for ninja tools: elemental affinity testing paper and anything that can help us grind.
[X] Cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka before going to bed each night.
No. of votes: 1
ProperAttorney

[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
-[X] Especially look for things that give training modifiers. Like your training weights.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 5
The Stormbringer, Blasterbot, Grosstoad, afterthought53, JoshieWoshie

[X]Focus on general shinobi skills
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Shino
[X] Go shopping in a book store: buy books that promt to learn skills priorty finding books on: combat, warfare, meditation, Cooking and Herblore.
[X] Go shopping for ninja tools: elemental affinity testing paper and anything that can help us grind.
[X] Cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka before going to bed each night.
No. of votes: 1
ClawClawBite

[x]Focus on fitness
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[x]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Socialize with the class in general
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
-[X] Especially look for things that give training modifiers. Like your training weights.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
Kerfirou

[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
Arbit

[X]Focus on fitness
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of votes: 1
ETA50M

[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Shino
[X] Seek guidance from your sensei
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
No. of votes: 1
dragon

Trondason · Jan 7, 2016

Probably better to do this vote by line, instead of by plan. Like so

Vote Tally : A Naruto Mook Quest [The Gamer/Naruto] | Page 45 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.5.8

[X]Focus on taijutsu
No. of Votes: 28

[X]Focus on genjutsu
No. of Votes: 28

[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
No. of Votes: 27

[X] Try to learn Meditation.
No. of Votes: 26

[x]Focus on ninjutsu
No. of Votes: 26

[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of Votes: 24

[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
No. of Votes: 21

[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
No. of Votes: 17

Trondason
Arbit
Astaroh-M
BlueArcher
CatScannerDarkly
Corvo Montés
dragon
ETA50M
GulibleLeprecon
Iandude0
LordRevan
moon-llama
mrttao
NegativeHorizon
Red Bovine
The Froggy Ninja
TotallyNotEvil

[X]Focus on fitness
No. of Votes: 14

Trondason
Astaroh-M
BlueArcher
Corvo Montés
ETA50M
GulibleLeprecon
Kerfirou
King Ofheros
moon-llama
NegativeHorizon
Qeqre
Red Bovine
sainen
The Froggy Ninja

[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
-[X] Especially look for things that give training modifiers. Like your training weights.
No. of Votes: 7

Qeqre
afterthought53
Blasterbot
Grosstoad
JoshieWoshie
Kerfirou
The Stormbringer

[x]Socialize with the class in general
No. of Votes: 6

moon-llama
BlueArcher
GulibleLeprecon
Hadiz
Kerfirou
Red Bovine

[X] Go shopping in a book store: buy books that promt to learn skills priorty finding books on: combat, warfare, meditation, Cooking and Herblore.
No. of Votes: 3

Crabs
ClawClawBite
ProperAttorney

[X] Go shopping for ninja tools: elemental affinity testing paper and anything that can help us grind.
No. of Votes: 3

Crabs
ClawClawBite
ProperAttorney

[X] Cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka before going to bed each night.
No. of Votes: 3

Crabs
ClawClawBite
ProperAttorney

[x]Focus on quests
No. of Votes: 2

sainen
Ceph

[X] Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Shino
No. of Votes: 2

ClawClawBite
dragon

[X] Plan Get Gud Scrub!
[X]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[X]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
--[X] Challenge him to some toughness testing games. I listed one before, can't seem to link it directly now.
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.
No. of Votes: 1

Plan: ◈Get Gud Scrub!
Daniel14541

[x]Focus on ninjutsu
-[x] once Leaf sticking is mastered ask sensei about more advanced chakra control exercises.
No. of Votes: 1

sainen

[x]Socialize with your friends
-[x] Naruto, hinata, Ino
No. of Votes: 1

sainen

[x]sprint to school each day
No. of Votes: 1

sainen

[x] cast Amanominaka and Kuninominaka every time they're off cool down.
No. of Votes: 1

sainen

[X] Look up some more chakra control techniques.
No. of Votes: 1

Qeqre

[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
--[X] Ask her some minor details/precision about Yin Chakra. You're sure that with her clan speciality, she knows more than the average person on that subject.
No. of Votes: 1

Sioks

[X] Keep using training weight and leaf sticking exercise at all times.
No. of Votes: 1

Hanashinobi

[x]Social option 1: Seek guidance from your sensei
No. of Votes: 1

Antarnoth

[x]Social option2: practice ninjutsu with friends.
No. of Votes: 1

Antarnoth

[X] Focus on Ninjutsu, [X] Focus on Ninjutsu
No. of Votes: 1

Hadiz

[X] Try to do a little Meditation at the end of the day to reflect on your daily events.
No. of Votes: 1

Hadiz

[X] Find out your elemental affinity.
No. of Votes: 1

Hadiz

[X] Find where to buy affinity paper.
No. of Votes: 1

King Ofheros

[X] Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Shikamaru
No. of Votes: 1

Crabs

[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X]Naruto
--[X] Challenge him to some toughness testing games. I listed one before, can't seem to link it directly now.
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Ino
No. of Votes: 1

ProperAttorney

[X]Focus on general shinobi skills
No. of Votes: 1

ClawClawBite

Total No. of Voters: 35

The same thing won either way, but this way there aren't so many singular plans floating around.

ryuan · Jan 7, 2016

This won:
[X]Focus on ninjutsu
[x]Focus on taijutsu
[X]Focus on genjutsu
[x]Seek guidance from your sensei
[X]Socialize with your friends
-[X] Hinata
-[X] Naruto
-[X] Ino
[X] Try to learn Meditation.
[X] Go shopping, we got tons of money, might as well use some of it, especially if it can help us grind.
-[X] Especially look for things that give training modifiers. Like your training weights.
[X] Try to find out what our elemental affinity is.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

Hey ryuan we will be implementing that clone tai-nin jutsu training right? Its really useful and no one was against it.

ryuan · Jan 7, 2016

I'm not really sure how it works. Can you describe it for me again so I can get an idea of what it looks like? Also I heard that only you wanted to implement it, not the rest of the thread.

Logos · Jan 7, 2016

ryuan said:
I'm not really sure how it works. Can you describe it for me again so I can get an idea of what it looks like? Also I heard that only you wanted to implement it, not the rest of the thread.

I'd also be for it, if I ever remembered to vote in here...

Anyway, if it's similar to what I proposed in a different quest nearly a year ago, it's basically a non-standard use for the clone technique that takes advantage of the clone's incorporeal nature to have them stand in the same space as you and mimic your movements. From there, the clones engage a target in melee with you.

The result is that if, say, you can create six clones, you could give your opponent eight arms to keep track of making potential attacks.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

ryuan said:
I'm not really sure how it works. Can you describe it for me again so I can get an idea of what it looks like? Also I heard that only you wanted to implement it, not the rest of the thread.

Instead of having the clones out to the side you layer them over your body while keeping your vision clear. Then you move the arms and legs out of synch with your body and doing their own thing in a fight. Some are kicking some are punching some are tripping and some are trying to grapple. It becomes a mess of limbs for the enemy to try and keep track of but because we have practiced this we have figured out how to use this without effecting our own line of sight too badly. Furthermore because they are clones layered on our body we can have one break off from our mass and charge the enemy blocking line of sight for them and giving us an opportunity to fire off a different ninjutsu or run away or launch some kunai/shuriken, or basically do anything that we see ninja in Naruto do with a split second of distraction. It doesn't even have to be realistic movement it just has to block the enemies line of site.

Furthermore when we actually get good at this we can have our clones break off and form their own masses to confuse the enemy. This would be done multiple times in a few seconds of a fight to make them lose track of which one is the real one. Also once we get good enough at clone usage we can institute false positives such as only one of our clones blinking while we carefully keep our eyes wide open for thirty seconds so we can close in while the blinking clone still looks like its hanging back. This is because we have practiced at getting the clones to overlap and pass through each other just fine.

Logos said:
I'd also be for it, if I ever remembered to vote in here...

Anyway, if it's similar to what I proposed in a different quest nearly a year ago, it's basically a non-standard use for the clone technique that takes advantage of the clone's incorporeal nature to have them stand in the same space as you and mimic your movements. From there, the clones engage a target in melee with you.

The result is that if, say, you can create six clones, you could give your opponent eight arms to keep track of making potential attacks.

Don't forget the foot work, the kicks, the trips, and all the other varied ways a fighter can try to damage an opponent. Like some drawing kunai's for melee while others don't.

TotallyNotEvil · Jan 7, 2016

Huh, it's an interesting idea, though I don't know if the standard clone jutsu can handle that, IIRC it pretty much mimics the user. We'd need to keep track and direct every single layer, I don't think we have the multitasking for that just yet.

Now, if we could make an original jutsu, we could take the independent aspect of Shadow Clones and make this a thing, though if you can do Shadow Clones I don't know why you'd need that.

Any AOE ninjutsu could get us, and Fireball is D-rank, isn't it? Along with AOE genjutsu, a small shuriken barrage, etc. It's handy for strictly taijutsu fights, but that's about it.

Qeqre · Jan 7, 2016

TotallyNotEvil said:
Now, if we could make an original jutsu, we could take the independent aspect of Shadow Clones and make this a thing, though if you can do Shadow Clones I don't know why you'd need that.

It'd probably be cheaper in chakra compared to Kage Bunshin though. And a mix of normal Bunshin added to Kage Bunshin might make it harder for the Kage Bunshin in question to disperse.

If you know Kage Bunshin and can isolate the independent aspect however? You might want to work on giving yourself workable extra limbs instead(similar to how Henge gave Gamabunta claws when he fought the Ichibi during the Chuuning exams, restrictions like it being non-solid or solid being naruto-only were fanon last I checked. Though this was a while back).

Grappling with somebody that has arms growing out of their legs holding Kunai that try to stab you ought to freak some people out...

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

TotallyNotEvil said:
Huh, it's an interesting idea, though I don't know if the standard clone jutsu can handle that, IIRC it pretty much mimics the user. We'd need to keep track and direct every single layer, I don't think we have the multitasking for that just yet.

Now, if we could make an original jutsu, we could take the independent aspect of Shadow Clones and make this a thing, though if you can do Shadow Clones I don't know why you'd need that.

Any AOE ninjutsu could get us, and Fireball is D-rank, isn't it? Along with AOE genjutsu, a small shuriken barrage, etc. It's handy for strictly taijutsu fights, but that's about it.

...
I'm not sure where you getting that from. We have seen plenty of clone use that doesn't mimic the user. We have seen clones with preprogrammed actions we would simply set up such preprogramming before hand to make it simpler. That's what the practice it now is for. So that we can add that in and get used to it like all our other techniques.

This is for use in melee... obviously getting hit from a distance will over come this. I've already said as much. The thing is when we are in melee it makes us into an absolute melee monster for any other genin level entity to try and overcome. Thanks for restating everything I've said though... I guess?

Though you seem to have missed that the technique also lets us suddenly split up into a dozen directions for dodging such ranged attacks. Unless the AOE is such that it covers whatever ground a genin can cover within a second of warning then this will force them to try and figure out which one is the real one while firing it off.

This practice is a good cheap investment of our time that grants major bonuses to any fights we get into with basically no downsides. Why would we not do this?

TotallyNotEvil · Jan 7, 2016

Qeqre said:
It'd probably be cheaper in chakra compared to Kage Bunshin though. And a mix of normal Bunshin added to Kage Bunshin might make it harder for the Kage Bunshin in question to disperse.

If you know Kage Bunshin and can isolate the independent aspect however? You might want to work on giving yourself workable extra limbs instead(similar to how Henge gave Gamabunta claws when he fought the Ichibi during the Chuuning exams, restrictions like it being non-solid or solid being naruto-only were fanon last I checked. Though this was a while back).

Grappling with somebody that has arms growing out of their legs holding Kunai that try to stab you ought to freak some people out...

Indeed, but is it worth the effort? That's a melee only skill, and there are more senses than sight. Also, one good hit and all the work to master it goes down the drain as it gets dispelled.

I think that's why I don't believe it can be done, even illusion clones dispel after a hit. Stand in the middle of it probably goes against the jutsu's restrictions.

@edit: Yes, but you simply said "clone", and from the description, I assume it's the basic Academy one. Shadow Clones are notably exceptional by the degree of independence they have.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

TotallyNotEvil said:
Indeed, but is it worth the effort? That's a melee only skill, and there are more senses than sight. Also, one good hit and all the work to master it goes down the drain as it gets dispelled.

I think that's why I don't believe it can be done, even illusion clones dispel after a hit. Stand in the middle of it probably goes against the jutsu's restrictions.

@edit: Yes, but you simply said "clone", and from the description, I assume it's the basic Academy one. Shadow Clones are notably exceptional by the degree of independence they have.

Okay you seem to be getting mixed up with the clone jutsu and the shadow clone jutsu. Clones don't dispel immediately after getting hit. They dispel when the user wants them to dispel. They are incorporeal. They are not physically there except for lighting hitting them. That's it, so hitting them is impossible.

And calling this a melee only skill completely ignores the benefits having body doubles grants when trying to dodge or block line of sight. You still haven't even taken a look at the line of sight advantages inherent in the Naruto fight dynamic. Blocking some ones vision for a split second has always been how ninja win their fights in Naruto. At least in the early on portion. Don't know about later on during the 4th great shinobi war I think it was?

Your going to have to provide citations for your claims that the normal clone technique dispels after getting hit. We have seen clones get dispelled by their creators after they are revealed to be fake because they are a chakra waste to keep up but we haven't seen clones get dispelled from getting hit.

This is no downside to Practicing this. Only benefits. Though if you don't want our character to get stronger then this all makes much more sense. Again this is a skill that grants only benefits and levels in the gamer system. I don't get why your arguing against this unless your just trying to keep us weak.

TotallyNotEvil · Jan 7, 2016

Daniel14541 said:
Okay you seem to be getting mixed up with the clone jutsu and the shadow clone jutsu. Clones don't dispel immediately after getting hit. They dispel when the user wants them to dispel. They are incorporeal. They are not physically there except for lighting hitting them. That's it, so hitting them is impossible.

And calling this a melee only skill completely ignores the benefits having body doubles grants when trying to dodge or block line of sight. You still haven't even taken a look at the line of sight advantages inherent in the Naruto fight dynamic. Blocking some ones vision for a split second has always been how ninja win their fights in Naruto. At least in the early on portion. Don't know about later on during the 4th great shinobi war I think it was?

Your going to have to provide citations for your claims that the normal clone technique dispels after getting hit. We have seen clones get dispelled by their creators after they are revealed to be fake because they are a chakra waste to keep up but we haven't seen clones get dispelled from getting hit.

This is no downside to Practicing this. Only benefits. Though if you don't want our character to get stronger then this all makes much more sense. Again this is a skill that grants only benefits and levels in the gamer system. I don't get why your arguing against this unless your just trying to keep us weak.

Because if what you are suggesting could be easily done, people would have done so before?

I can't think of why any ninja would allow enemies their sight if you could simply keep a clone jutsu in their face all the time. Shouldn't any hostile chakra passing through a E-rank jutsu fuck up with it? It also, presumably, takes concentration, as all clones get dispelled after the original is hit sufficiently hard (which is, usually, one solid blow).

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

TotallyNotEvil said:
Because if what you are suggesting could be easily done, people would have done so before?

I can't think of why any ninja would allow enemies their sight if you could simply keep a clone jutsu in their face all the time. Shouldn't any hostile chakra passing through a E-rank jutsu fuck up with it? It also, presumably, takes concentration, as all clones get dispelled after the original is hit sufficiently hard (which is, usually, one solid blow).

Have you ever heard of shunshin no shishui? Guy took a really basic technique and ran with it. In this case literally and became a jonin off of how good he became at it. The guy was a full blown jonin with this technique. As in not a special jonin meaning they could get into jonin level ability because of their specialty but full jonin level because the guy went and fully incorporated a basic simple technique and took in all its potential.

So yes people have basically done this kind of thing before in canon.

People don't tend to think outside the box. Those that do tend to monofocus on one thing. Like Naruto and his Shadow Clones. Or Gai/rock lee with his taijutsu.

We know how the clone technique works. It is an extremely underutilized part of canon. Henge and kawamari get more use then clone. Now getting hit hard while a technique is up is a good way to get that person to drop that technique from breaking their concentration.

We thankfully have some things that are an answer for that. Our gamer power, either gamers mind nullifies that worry or we can start training up a skill that would fix that issue once its gets high enough. Either way doing this is to our benefit. We have advantages that no average ninja has. Lets actually take advantage of them.

King Arthur · Jan 7, 2016

I'm with Daniel.

The Froggy Ninja · Jan 7, 2016

I too am with Daniel.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

King Arthur said:
I'm with Daniel.

The Froggy Ninja said:
I too am with Daniel.

Thanks guys.

chocolote12 · Jan 7, 2016

Daniel14541 said:
Thanks guys.

For what it's worth, a genjustu build that can't be Kai'd and that can have esoteric upgrades that are literally undistinguished from their baseline sounds great. Especially since our gamers body prevents us from having to disguise ourself to blend in with our billion clones.

In fact, we could make one of our clones look "wounded but hiding it" to fake a guy out and then stab him when he's turned around.

And the best part is that pretty much nobody else can do this as well as we can, with our skills and inhuman physiology.

I'm for it.

NúmenoreanNazgûl · Jan 7, 2016

Naruto Wiki said:
A person with normal eyes can also distinguish the clones from the original, since the clones do not have shadows and will not disrupt the area around themselves with their movement (i.e. won't kick up dust, crush grass, etc.).

So, this takes away the only weakness that the clone technique has and no one without a doujutsu will be able to distinguish the clones unless they are capable of tracking the shadow of each of our arms. I vote we call ourselves Senju no Tetsuo.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

NúmenoreanNazgûl said:
So, this takes away the only weakness that the clone technique has and no one without a doujutsu will be able to distinguish the clones unless they are capable of tracking the shadow of each of our arms. I vote we call ourselves Senju no Tetsuo.

Actually that bit from the wiki is wrong. We have seen academy clones have shadows. Not sure why they say that.

Though do please list your support for this training a bit more bluntly? I think its being counted by ryuan to see if its implemented so if your for it make sure its clear with something like this:

I support it.

or

I'm for it.

-EDIT-

So Ryuan more people are supportive of this then for any of the plans in the vote itself. It helps that its a good way to train ninjutsu and taijutsu at the same time. Might even count as a modifier towards improving each of these each faster in fact.

mrttao · Jan 7, 2016

TotallyNotEvil said:
Huh, it's an interesting idea, though I don't know if the standard clone jutsu can handle that, IIRC it pretty much mimics the user. We'd need to keep track and direct every single layer, I don't think we have the multitasking for that just yet.

Now, if we could make an original jutsu, we could take the independent aspect of Shadow Clones and make this a thing, though if you can do Shadow Clones I don't know why you'd need that.

Any AOE ninjutsu could get us, and Fireball is D-rank, isn't it? Along with AOE genjutsu, a small shuriken barrage, etc. It's handy for strictly taijutsu fights, but that's about it.

Yea, overall this sounds horrendously inefficient. The amount of effort and difficulty and CP required to layer and independently control so many clones is obscene. It would make more sense to just create a "multi hand illusion" via genjutsu, or a multi hand "clone" via ninjutusu where it is a SINGLE clone like construct that looks like 4 additional hands so the enemy has problems figuring out which attack to block.
Also, do regular ninjutsu clones even survive overlapping?
Besides all that, the amount of skill and effort and CP required for this is on par with things like chidori, rasengen, etc... which are extremely massively ridiculously more powerful and useful in combat

Iandude0 · Jan 7, 2016

mrttao said:
Yea, overall this sounds horrendously inefficient.

Agreed.

Trondason · Jan 7, 2016

mrttao said:
Besides all that, the amount of skill and effort and CP required for this is on par with things like chidori, rasengen, etc... which are extremely massively ridiculously more powerful and useful in combat

How do you figure that? We have no way of knowing how much CP either of those take, or how hard they are.

Daniel14541 · Jan 7, 2016

Mrttao

Except academy students don't have a hard time with multiple clones doing multiple things while they themself are doing something else and this would be a direct extension of that so your argument falls flat there.

yes they have overlapped.

and since your entire argument can be summed up as your subjective opinion while mine actually has canon support I think I will go with mine thank you.

Gtg not sure when I will get back on.

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