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- Brazil
That's from where?
A Lion's Pride (Closed Quest / ASOIAF)
- Thread starter Mazrick
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Iandude0
BEST RANGER
- Location
- Milwaukee
The update with Tywin's accusations brought against Chelstead.
...Which he cooked up completely by himself and then pinned on someone else who is now dead in front of a lot of people who could take the plan and use it.
God dammit Tywin.Never thought I'd have to say that.
Melkor
Belegûr
[X] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
My reaction to the latest update.
You are a cruel, and sadistic man Mazrick.
Well done.
My reaction to the latest update.
You are a cruel, and sadistic man Mazrick.
Well done.
Cxjenious
The Young Lion
We have one bastard running around. And soon we'll have two. I find great fault in your assumptions as to the character of Aelinor, as well as what it means to father a bastard, or bastards - before we are even married, mind you - in Westeros, especially to a girl whose father has sired various bastards of his own, and whose mother is apparently okay with the arrangement.
From the little we saw of her, Aelinor is a haughty little girl who is extremely assured of her high place in the world. A single bastard - as she will never learn that Naerys' child is ours - won't change that. Nor does it somehow destroy the possibility of a happy marriage. It doesn't even hamper it.
There's bad ideas and lack of self control, and then there's coupling with a princess to make your bastard son a king and possibly securing your family's position for generations to come.
Not really, no.
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- United States
If you guys vote yes you might be setting up another Dance of the Dragons/Blackfyre Rebellion.
People don't like it when you displace their heir, bastard or no.
Choose wisely. Spread your seed now and let your blood claim the throne, or let crazy Aerys or Aegon(The Tyrells) wed Naerys off to someone that might be your enemy one day.
On either choice, remember to position your family to reap the benefits of royal favor.
In either choice y'all are boned. One good, one bad.
People don't like it when you displace their heir, bastard or no.
Choose wisely. Spread your seed now and let your blood claim the throne, or let crazy Aerys or Aegon(The Tyrells) wed Naerys off to someone that might be your enemy one day.
On either choice, remember to position your family to reap the benefits of royal favor.
In either choice y'all are boned. One good, one bad.
Who is Gerold meant to marry right now anyway? Jaime's ties with the Hightowers are too valuable under the circumstances but maybe his betrothed could be reasonably bought off. He's as much reason to be loyal to "Rhaegar's" child as anyone and might seem an agreeable match for Naerys in a couple of years time. Family trees are saying they're of an age. It's also a justification to bring to Tywin for backing Naerys, and Gerold to not throw himself away in the fighting or try to join the Kingsguard or something stupid.
[x] No. You will not accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Though there will be troubles ahead with House Tyrell when Aegon takes the Iron Throne, you can weather them.
Because the chance of this coming out is too great, no matter what the crazy girl believes. Then it's bye-bye Lannisters-
...
Almost decided to change my vote based on that alone, then remembered that we're a Lannister.
Because the chance of this coming out is too great, no matter what the crazy girl believes. Then it's bye-bye Lannisters-
...
Almost decided to change my vote based on that alone, then remembered that we're a Lannister.
Corvus Black
The Inestimable
- Location
- England
[X] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
Our bastard on the throne and the mother's a crazy bitch. This reminds me of something...
Our bastard on the throne and the mother's a crazy bitch. This reminds me of something...
@Mazrick: Just for the record, how secure is this information really? We know that neither Barristan nor the prospective parents are likely to blab barring extreme circumstances (we're never taking that ring off, ever), but is there someone who could possibly know that Naerys and Rhaegar didn't do the deed? Someone checking the sheets or whatever? Did Naerys deal with those problems?
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
This plot point has been planned for a couple months, and we're fairly sure that it was Charcolt's idea in the first place. We roll very sporadically, and you guys can be pretty predictable sometimes, so it makes planning ahead much easier than normal in most quests. Speaking of which... fun times ahead!
Naerys seems to be a very smart girl. She'll be using secret passages to enter Jaime's room unseen, and she's likely planned for other contingencies. This news coming out would hurt her as much as it would hurt you.
Alright. It's true enough that she has as much reason to hide this as us, and she wouldn't propose the deal if she wasn't very sure that no one can find out. Being bound more tightly to the throne can be fairly useful in our circumstances...
I'll forget all the possible ways this could go wrong for a minute and just ride the crazy train.
[X] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
I wonder where this feeling of impending doom is coming from.
I'll forget all the possible ways this could go wrong for a minute and just ride the crazy train.
[X] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
I wonder where this feeling of impending doom is coming from.
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- Underground
I would think there are simpler ways to test loyalty that are less likely to horribly backfire on her.
And if she was pregnant with a legitimate heir to begin with I doubt she'd take even a minimal risk of it being seen as a bastard by pulling a stunt like this.
You do say it's a very outside chance but I don't think there's even that.
I quote the great prophet Lamora.
IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO, KIDS.
...I'll admit though, andy almost made me vote yes.
Now I'm thinking of Mazrick and Charcolt as the Heisenberg of Targ pussy.
But who's Walter and who's Jesse?
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- UK
Yeah bang the princess not like Jaime is going into the woods tomorrow on a dangerous mission where he could easily be murdered by Barristan if he gets seperated from the main group. As Tywin proved best way to keep a bastard secret is to kill the parent who might tell someone
Odran
Curmudgeon
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- The land of Nod
In this case, it makes no sense for Jaime to divulge the true paternity of the child.
I really can't imagine a situation where it would benefit him in any way to do so.
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- UK
It wouldnt benefit us but people dont do things only for benefit she knows us very little and from what little she knows of us we consult Tywin on most things theres one more potential leak he wouldnt tell anyone but that would mean he would have some amazing blackmail on the princess and who would want Tywin to have blackmail on them. Theres the possibility of us telling someone if we become severly drunk, theres also the possibility we would tell our bastard that we are the father which could have untold effect on him. Now we all know Jaime cant get drunk and that we wouldnt pick a choice such as telling the child but the princess doesnt why would she risk it
It's not blackmail for Tywin either. If he tells anyone, it will come out that the Lannisters tried putting their bastard on the throne under the pretense of legitimacy. Frankly, I'm not sure who suffers more if the truth spreads, us or Naerys.
This is a case of MAD, with both parties being very invested in the truth staying hidden.
Yes, us telling someone while drunk is a danger as far as she's concerned (though it can be written off as adolescent fantasies), but killing us could be just as dangerous, as she won't know whether we shared the truth with Tywin beforehand. She'll just have to trust in our discretion.
This is a case of MAD, with both parties being very invested in the truth staying hidden.
Yes, us telling someone while drunk is a danger as far as she's concerned (though it can be written off as adolescent fantasies), but killing us could be just as dangerous, as she won't know whether we shared the truth with Tywin beforehand. She'll just have to trust in our discretion.
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
His child has become king and is about to execute him in private?
- Location
- UK
Meh maybe im just being paranoid but Tywin is known as a rather cold individual he could disown Jaime and suffer much less backlash than the princess but yeah the whole tywin blackmail doesnt seem viable unless used as a last ditch effort to save his house from destruction very very very tiny tiny chance of that happeing so the whole Tywin blackmail can bedisregarded but any doubt thrown on the legitamacy of the next king by Jaime's possible drunken rambiling combined the tyrells marrying the real next in line for the throne could cause civil war and as i have said why risk any small chance of us telling anyone such as our wife we wont but theres a chance and why would naerys risk it when she could just have Barristan stab us in the back
Im probably just being paranoid
Im probably just being paranoid
Cxjenious
The Young Lion
There isn't a chance of us telling anyone. And you are just being paranoid. Obscenely so. I've been drunk plenty of times and never blabbed secrets. Alcohol lowers your inhibitions, it doesn't turn you into a retard. Unless, of course, you already have retarded tendencies.
And maybe you haven't been paying attention, but we want a war. If it's to be with the Aegon/Tyrell's and Dorne, all the better.
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New reader here, stay away from Targaryen's cunt, it only leads to madness and war.
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
Preliminary tally:
Vote closes in 5 hours. No work tonight for me, so if Charcolt is available, we might post another update this evening.
Vote Tally : A Lion's Pride (Closed Quest / ASOIAF) | Page 75 | Sufficient Velocity
##### NetTally 1.1.15
[x] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
No. of Votes: 14
[x] No. You will not accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Though there will be troubles ahead with House Tyrell when Aegon takes the Iron Throne, you can weather them.
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 17
##### NetTally 1.1.15
[x] Yes. You will accept Naerys' offer and get her with child. Doing so would prevent the Tyrells from placing one of their own as queen, and… the boy would be yours.
No. of Votes: 14
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 17
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- New Jersey
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Just pointing out that in most monarchies sleeping with the queen or crown prince's wife is treason on the part of both the guy AND the queen/princess. The only way Naerys would let this leak is if she wants her head on the pike next to Jamie's.
Also Jamie's bastard becoming king would be reliant on Ayers being rescued and living long enough for the baby to be born. Otherwise the throne will pass to Aegon and his heirs with the bastard starting a new side branch of the Targ family.
Also Jamie's bastard becoming king would be reliant on Ayers being rescued and living long enough for the baby to be born. Otherwise the throne will pass to Aegon and his heirs with the bastard starting a new side branch of the Targ family.
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With Aerys as insane as he is theres probably gonna be a war without seating a bastard of ours on the throne. You may not have spilt secrets when you where drunk i have and ive had secrets told to me when people where drunk but aguing over that is pointless seating our bastard on the throne has little benifits yes he may be ours but we have no control over him he is probably gonna believe he is rhaegars all his life the princess suggested she may make us hand when tywin retires not offered not confirmed suggested so she isnt obliged make us hand if she doesnt want to. With us dead the next head of house Lannister if im not mistaken is Gerold, Rhaegars squire who seemed to me to be very loyal to him and that may transfer to his suppoused son all im saying is if i was Naerys killing Jaimie would plug a possible leak to the information her sons parentage and seats a possibly very loyal man to her son as lord of house Lannister. Im stretching and i know it but i have a general dislike and distrust of Targaryens plus being paranoid in westeros keeps you alive.
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