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A Game of Supers (The Gamer/Original Superhero Setting)

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Umi-san said:
Fighting skill > voodoo

Maybe high level martial artists in the fantasies the Japanese created around their stuff during the rise of bureaucracy, the meiji reformation, and the world wars. I.e., the image we've created is completely divorced from martial arts' historic roots. Just like ninjas, I guess, but I've never heard of a fictional ninja that meditates. Sure, paying attention to stuff and ignoring the cramp in ur thigh is important, but a) that's ignoring distractions not try to connect w/ ur chi or whatever the hell that one exhibit in tokyo talked about, b) our meditation is presumably high enough to ignore cramps in our thighs.

Shadow-boxing is good for anything where visualization is important. Which is a lot of things.
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Mental Self Control ==> Fighting Skill

I am not saying we get Voodoo. It'd be a neat side benefit. What I'm wanting us to get is every other benefit that comes with Medititation/Self Hypnosis, which includes Fighting Skill. This leads to that.

What fictional ninja have you heard of? The TMNT meditate, Snake Eyes meditates, Naruto Ninjas meditate, Garu from I Love Pucca meditates. I can keep going, but I have no idea what you are familiar with.

Meditation does more than just Chi. I listed a ton of things, and that was literally the last thing and I even said that we probably won't get it. It ALSO helps with our memory, which will aid us in learning stuff. After all, one who never forgets something after they learn it learns much faster than someone who has to keep refreshing themselves on stuff.

Shadow-Boxing is only good for fighting skills. We can't really use visualization to help us learn about anatomy or medical skills, nor can we use it to help with learning how to apply makeup to change how we look, or a ton of other things.
 
Nah, sorry. Self-hypnosis does not trump fighting skill on any sort of level. I did not even want the skill to begin with, and the description of the skill makes me super uncomfortable with using it, even when it's obviously not written to do so. You like the skill, which is... fine? But others are not as sold on it and that is fine as well.
 
Trondason said:
Mental Self Control ==> Fighting Skill

I am not saying we get Voodoo. It'd be a neat side benefit. What I'm wanting us to get is every other benefit that comes with Medititation/Self Hypnosis, which includes Fighting Skill. This leads to that.

What fictional ninja have you heard of? The TMNT meditate, Snake Eyes meditates, Naruto Ninjas meditate, Garu from I Love Pucca meditates. I can keep going, but I have no idea what you are familiar with.

Meditation does more than just Chi. I listed a ton of things, and that was literally the last thing and I even said that we probably won't get it. It ALSO helps with our memory, which will aid us in learning stuff. After all, one who never forgets something after they learn it learns much faster than someone who has to keep refreshing themselves on stuff.

Shadow-Boxing is only good for fighting skills. We can't really use visualization to help us learn about anatomy or medical skills, nor can we use it to help with learning how to apply makeup to change how we look, or a ton of other things.
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A) afaik naruto ninjas don't generally meditate, they train. Idgaf about TMNT and don't get why anyone did. I have no idea what I love Pucca or Snakes Eyes is. B) Anime ninjas aren't ninjas to me, just xianxia chars with a different name. A ninja is an assassin during a period of time when guns did not exist. They thus are physically fit, have well-trained reflexes, are good at paying attention to what their senses tell them, and are familiar with a variety of weapons. They optionally are also relatively flexible/acrobatic and occasionally use poisons and other drug concoctions developed through years of practice and accumulated rural herb-lore.


Meditation arguably helps brain functioning, but idr if a) biological affects still apply to us, b) it helps with memory. Considering that the gamer mechanic is rooted in never having to forget things, I doubt it will do much. Solidly speaking - i.e. what it is formally presented as doing when people walk you through it in the classes I've taken -, meditation helps with ignoring distractions and that's about it. Meditation is functionally presented as practicing ignoring your thoughts and the external world and finding an emotional center rooted in emptiness (buddhist derivatives) or rapture (abrahamic). All of which take time to benefit from - they're the result of practicing that mindset in a particular moment rather than being some passive, ongoing thing for all that the emotional stability might remain (unless you're regarding mindfulness as meditation, which is kinda right but kinda weird depending on which approach to meditation you follow. mindfulness *is* like "I notice I'm thinking about x, I'm going to entertain it for a moment and then go back to what I was doing." meditation is more like "I'm focused on breathing/this flame/the feel of my body/etc., these other things are ephemeral distractions which I must surpass so that I can reach nullity. I must try for all that I might fail.") -, time which we won't have when we're fighting shit. And note that a majority of our actions have narratively been portrayed as eliciting flow, with the assistance of our quirk's instant feedback. If we have flow, we do not need the distraction resistance meditation may grant.


We really can use visualization to help with anatomy or medical skills, learning how to apply makeup to change how we look, etc. All of them involve a substantial amount of visualization and a minor capacity for explicit fact retention, depending on how you define anatomy. If I get told that no, shadow-boxing is strictly imagining opponents and how we would fight them, I would concede the point even as I relentlessly mock such a conclusion's artificially limited scope.
 
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[X] Meditation. Trying to block out the distractions would be good.
[X] Rob a store. Survey had gotten you information about places with valuable things and low security, and you knew a fence.
-[X] Pretend to be an employee, moving stock from this store to another store. Should be able to nab a couple grands worth of items before anyone really starts to suspect.
Get us money to buy gear, and remain largely anonymous
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Disguises
-[X] Sneaking

Im not sure why people are uncomfortable with self-hypnosis,sure we didn't have it do what we wanted right in the update but that was from lack of practice and not anything else,not to mention mc hasn't noticed any negative effects at all and the fact thats its a legit skill in the real world. Going more Doylist,do you guys really think the QM would screw us over with a 'bad' skill this early if ever? Self-hypnosis also grants several benefits which are evident from the update itself and is a skill we need to further our learning progress which is the only thing we have.
 
[X] Cold reading. Use our classmates and teachers and subjects
[X] Infiltrate a gang. The Inscrutables had a surprisingly lax policy for accepting new members. You could potentially infiltrate the gang and eventually deal with Inscrutable directly.
[X] Focus on raising the level of the skills you already developed.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Disguise
 
Exter said:
Doesn't matter,its a legit skill in the game all my points still apply.
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Yeah, idc. My point was in response to a gap in perception not whether/not it's a legit skill in the game. Tho being able to get to sleep more easily is a fairly bad example for it being a legit skill, imo.
 
Reader_for_Fun said:
Well... Occam's razor I guess, don't really know what I expected
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a brilliant analysis about how the federation attempted to instill a positive attitude throughout the galaxy and that having the like symbol resemble it was a thoughtful and long-considered choice intended to promote such an attitude among the SV population at large, due to a trick-down effect from those familiar with the ST canon in particular?
A discussion about how that particular icon is cheap/free/part of the public domain and thus was chosen largely for that & due to its placement relatively high in the list as a result of its popularity?
 
Umi-san said:
Yeah, idc. My point was in response to a gap in perception not whether/not it's a legit skill in the game. Tho being able to get to sleep more easily is a fairly bad example for it being a legit skill, imo.
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We literally made a trigger to learn faster in the update itself sure it doesn't work properly but we just need to practice. You're literally rejecting something that will help our base power itself.
 
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We literally made a trigger to learn faster in the update itself sure it doesn't work properly but we just need to practice. You're literally rejecting something that will help our base power itself.
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Yes, we are and I am completely fine with it.

I do not trust that skill.
 
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Well, you both? Get a Federation symbol

For your inspired discourse (and making me laugh, thanks)

Also to weigh in on the story discussion, I really think we should train cold reading. As a Gamer we could get to Sherlock Holmes or Tattletale levels in cold reading (which is awesome and really helpful, hence my vote), and self-hypnosis however you feel about it, has massive benefits in nearly all media it's displayed in. Being able to modify aspects of ourselves mentally and psychologically would be great help, especially if we have any unwanted pin-ups to certain aspects of villany. Also, it should offer a bonus should we ever hypnotize others, which might or might not be more useful than doing it to ourselves
 
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[X] Meditation. Trying to block out the distractions would be good.
[X] Infiltrate a gang. The Inscrutables had a surprisingly lax policy for accepting new members. You could potentially infiltrate the gang and eventually deal with Inscrutable directly.
[X] Focus on raising the level of the skills you already developed.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Acrobatics/Parkour
 
[X] Meditation. Trying to block out the distractions would be good.
[X] Research a gang. The Red Claws had a pretty interesting structure, and you thought it could be possible to take advantage of that for your own goals.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Urban tracking
-[X] Acrobatics/Parkour
 
[X] Meditation. Trying to block out the distractions would be good.
[X] Infiltrate a gang. The Inscrutables had a surprisingly lax policy for accepting new members. You could potentially infiltrate the gang and eventually deal with Inscrutable directly.
[X] Focus on raising the level of the skills you already developed.
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Acrobatics/Parkour
 
Okay. Since this seems to be a point of contention, I will point out that whatever name and identity you guys come up with isn't going to be final. It's just a way to refer to yourself while you are in costume if you need to. You can definitely change it later when you change costumes (and you will). So, don't consider it this huge life-impacting decision.

Also, Lazyminx, any name for the Omake? If not, I'll just tag it as "Thoughts".
 
[X] Shadowboxing. Try to imagine even more complex figures and scenarios.
it will be good to lvl it up , but this isn't so important
[X] Research a gang. The Red Claws had a pretty interesting structure, and you thought it could be possible to take advantage of that for your own goals.
research as the safest thing , we still need more time to raise ourselfs
[X] Learn a useful miscellaneous skill.
-[X] Acrobatics/Parkour
-[X] Lock picking
we need to know acrobatics and choosing lock picking just to be safe , if we somehow get locked somewhere
 
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