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We really should probably get stealth.
A Game of Supers (The Gamer/Original Superhero Setting)
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[x] Trondason
Hmm, people seem split on what they want. I would prefer to stack on learning multipliers even higher, because even with Kinni's declaration that this is where things will get insane, I still belive we have wiggle room and we need to prepare for when things truly do get insane in the long term.
Hmm, people seem split on what they want. I would prefer to stack on learning multipliers even higher, because even with Kinni's declaration that this is where things will get insane, I still belive we have wiggle room and we need to prepare for when things truly do get insane in the long term.
[X] Investigate why you didn't feel tired in the morning.
[X] Focus on raising the level of a specific skill
-[X] Meditation
--[X] Try Meditation in Movement, such as trying to meditate as you perform Kata, or do a well learned bit of Parkour
--[X] Consider your learnings in Self-Hypnosis, and the gained ability to manipulate your own thoughts and mindset.
[X] Use Learning Trigger on Meditation
[X] Focus on raising the level of a specific skill
-[X] Meditation
--[X] Try Meditation in Movement, such as trying to meditate as you perform Kata, or do a well learned bit of Parkour
--[X] Consider your learnings in Self-Hypnosis, and the gained ability to manipulate your own thoughts and mindset.
[X] Use Learning Trigger on Meditation
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After. Those skills should make learning new skills be faster.
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except that getting at least competent in that skill could mean the difference between escaping the police or a hero and getting caught.
yes, maxing meditation is more important. but mental discipline can wait for us to get stealth to at least 10 (which should be pretty easy considering our body control from our martial arts and parkour and our survey skills).
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I feel like our acting and Parkour skills are likely to get is out of more trouble then stealth.
Video games have taught me that even awesome stealth skills do not hide you from much.
Video games have taught me that even awesome stealth skills do not hide you from much.
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social stealth (via acting) is different than physical stealth (aka: the stealth skill). so yes, acting can have some stealthy applications (we say some in the raid we just did). but it is not infiltration stealth.
and parkour lets us get where we shouldn't, and get places more quickly.
but that does not teach us about staying out of lines of sight, moving quietly, where the best places to hide are. it just lets us leverage those skills in a different way.
and we need to not be incompetent in that skill set, if only so we dont get fucked when another Shadow Crusader ambushes us.
i find it VERY likely that the only reason we got away without complication from her is that she was shocked we didn't cower in terror.
if she pursued us, we would have been forced in to a confrontation unless our mobility massively outclassed hers.
stealth would have given us a chance.
and can you imagine us in combat with high stealth? we are already a blender. you do the math.
I doubt that. Running away as fast as we can was a perfectly accepted response to being hit with a massive fear aura. It was one of the options that weren't invisible, right along side fainting.
Stealth + Combat = Batman.
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We don't really need programing for that. Our acting skills are good enough that we could likely just call people on the phone and convince them to let us into their computer. (Embarrassingly I feel for that once. Said he was calling from Microsoft technical support and they had detected a problem with my computer.)
Part 21-1
[x] Trondason
The next week was far more relaxing than the previous one, given that you didn't have the shadow of such an important operation hanging over your head. But it was still a remarkably busy period, because you refused to waste time.
On the spirit of that, you decided to investigate the reason why you hadn't really felt tired even after a night full of work and with very little sleep. If things turned out the way you expected, it would give you even more time to use.
So you tested things out. One night you spent completely without sleep, trying to see what kinds of effects that would have on your health. And that was all that was necessary to show that you had indeed not become immune to sleep, because you spent the entire school day feeling like crap, and immediately went to take a nap after coming back home.
The next day, you decided to try and see if the previous event had been a fluke. You stayed up until four in the morning and woke up at six. And apparently that seemed to be enough. You spent the entire day doing things and failed to notice any abnormality caused by the lack of sleep.
Having an idea, you did the same thing as before, except that when it came time to sleep, you deliberately avoided doing any of the mental exercises that you had usually done out of routine. The difference was startling. While you wasn't as bad off as going on no sleep, that still really hindered your mental focus for the day.
For your next experiment, you spent some time during the night doing your mental exercises, but neglected to actually sleep. That ended up being even worse, though it still wasn't as bad as going awake without doing anything.
From your experiments, you came to the conclusion that sleep had both physical and psychological functions. The latter you could compensate by using your mental techniques, but not the former. With that said, you decided to test whether meditation could have an effect, given how much you were focusing on it during the weak.
The answer was... Kind off. You could use meditation as a substitute for sleep, but you couldn't do anything else with the meditation while doing so, and it wasn't any more efficient than normal sleep. It could be useful if you were sleeping in a dangerous place and didn't want to get your guard down, but otherwise, it was pretty much the same as normal sleep.
With this, you would have extra time for your projects every week (you intended to keep checking yourself to see if there were long term effects, just in case) but you also got something else from that:
Mental Discipline Level 9
- The skill to maximize the potential of your mind. At this level, you can memorize things with no effort, and sort information into distinct groups for easy access.
Besides that, you were also training meditation, hoping to master it soon. It was both better and worse than your sleep experiments. It was better because you never had to deal with painful results such as the sleep deprivation, but it was worse because progress was a lot slower and more erratic.
It couldn't be helped, since you were trying to reach mastery in something that other people would devote their entire lives with trying to pursue without even reaching where you're currently at (and isn't it amazing that you once thought of your power as something quaint?), but you had even used your self-hypnosis to make things easier, and even then your progress proceeded at a snail's pace.
Usually your training worked in fits and starts, as you slowly looked for the best ways to advance from your current level. However, Meditation was a bit different. It was simply far too broad for specific methods to help more than just a bit, and that resulted in your experience progressing just a little bit more every time, regardless of the methods you used.
Still, you persevered through all of that, deciding to try meditation in movement, mostly katas, since it would be a way to increase the intensity of the training while also making it less bothersome.
Meditation was all about seeking your inner self, but you thought about your use of self-hypnosis and wondered what such a thing could be, what truly is someone's inner self. Over the course of your meditation you had recognized your two biggest obsessions: Your fascination with obtaining control and your hunger for improvement, the two things that had driven you to your recent actions, which would seem unthinkable to anyone who didn't understand them.
However, simply focusing on those things wasn't enough. Eventually you moved on to other aspects of yourself, your likes, your relationships... Everything that you could consider as part of your essence.
All of that gave experience to the skill, but you never actually found something that could truly be called the core of yourself.
And that, as you deduced, was precisely the point.
There wasn't such a thing as a core, an absolute inner self of a person. Everyone was composed of a multifaceted mix of desires, influences, biases and all those sorts of things. The question wasn't finding one's own true self, but understanding how much each part of you influenced your thoughts and decisions. That was the meaning of knowing yourself.
Meditation Level 20
- The skill to reach inside yourself and obtain a better understanding of your own mind and behavior. At this level, meditation is not any more thought intensive than simple rest, and your level of self-knowledge has attained the point of mastery.
You have obtained: The Shard of Self.
- By seeing the self as multifaceted, you can now recognize the Gamer ability as something both from within and without yourself. This realization will be important for your future path.
What you got from reaching level 20 wasn't as straightforward as the other skills you mastered, but you could tell that it could possibly be even better than the others. The mastery specially, considering that it was the first time your ability referred to itself.
You were itching to explore your new gains, but you simply did not have the time. It was already late saturday, and it was almost time to go to the gang meeting.
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A.N: This was taking too long, so I decided to split the chapter in two so you didn't have to wait so much. Part 2 will come faster, together with the choices.
The next week was far more relaxing than the previous one, given that you didn't have the shadow of such an important operation hanging over your head. But it was still a remarkably busy period, because you refused to waste time.
On the spirit of that, you decided to investigate the reason why you hadn't really felt tired even after a night full of work and with very little sleep. If things turned out the way you expected, it would give you even more time to use.
So you tested things out. One night you spent completely without sleep, trying to see what kinds of effects that would have on your health. And that was all that was necessary to show that you had indeed not become immune to sleep, because you spent the entire school day feeling like crap, and immediately went to take a nap after coming back home.
The next day, you decided to try and see if the previous event had been a fluke. You stayed up until four in the morning and woke up at six. And apparently that seemed to be enough. You spent the entire day doing things and failed to notice any abnormality caused by the lack of sleep.
Having an idea, you did the same thing as before, except that when it came time to sleep, you deliberately avoided doing any of the mental exercises that you had usually done out of routine. The difference was startling. While you wasn't as bad off as going on no sleep, that still really hindered your mental focus for the day.
For your next experiment, you spent some time during the night doing your mental exercises, but neglected to actually sleep. That ended up being even worse, though it still wasn't as bad as going awake without doing anything.
From your experiments, you came to the conclusion that sleep had both physical and psychological functions. The latter you could compensate by using your mental techniques, but not the former. With that said, you decided to test whether meditation could have an effect, given how much you were focusing on it during the weak.
The answer was... Kind off. You could use meditation as a substitute for sleep, but you couldn't do anything else with the meditation while doing so, and it wasn't any more efficient than normal sleep. It could be useful if you were sleeping in a dangerous place and didn't want to get your guard down, but otherwise, it was pretty much the same as normal sleep.
With this, you would have extra time for your projects every week (you intended to keep checking yourself to see if there were long term effects, just in case) but you also got something else from that:
Mental Discipline Level 9
- The skill to maximize the potential of your mind. At this level, you can memorize things with no effort, and sort information into distinct groups for easy access.
Besides that, you were also training meditation, hoping to master it soon. It was both better and worse than your sleep experiments. It was better because you never had to deal with painful results such as the sleep deprivation, but it was worse because progress was a lot slower and more erratic.
It couldn't be helped, since you were trying to reach mastery in something that other people would devote their entire lives with trying to pursue without even reaching where you're currently at (and isn't it amazing that you once thought of your power as something quaint?), but you had even used your self-hypnosis to make things easier, and even then your progress proceeded at a snail's pace.
Usually your training worked in fits and starts, as you slowly looked for the best ways to advance from your current level. However, Meditation was a bit different. It was simply far too broad for specific methods to help more than just a bit, and that resulted in your experience progressing just a little bit more every time, regardless of the methods you used.
Still, you persevered through all of that, deciding to try meditation in movement, mostly katas, since it would be a way to increase the intensity of the training while also making it less bothersome.
Meditation was all about seeking your inner self, but you thought about your use of self-hypnosis and wondered what such a thing could be, what truly is someone's inner self. Over the course of your meditation you had recognized your two biggest obsessions: Your fascination with obtaining control and your hunger for improvement, the two things that had driven you to your recent actions, which would seem unthinkable to anyone who didn't understand them.
However, simply focusing on those things wasn't enough. Eventually you moved on to other aspects of yourself, your likes, your relationships... Everything that you could consider as part of your essence.
All of that gave experience to the skill, but you never actually found something that could truly be called the core of yourself.
And that, as you deduced, was precisely the point.
There wasn't such a thing as a core, an absolute inner self of a person. Everyone was composed of a multifaceted mix of desires, influences, biases and all those sorts of things. The question wasn't finding one's own true self, but understanding how much each part of you influenced your thoughts and decisions. That was the meaning of knowing yourself.
Meditation Level 20
- The skill to reach inside yourself and obtain a better understanding of your own mind and behavior. At this level, meditation is not any more thought intensive than simple rest, and your level of self-knowledge has attained the point of mastery.
You have obtained: The Shard of Self.
- By seeing the self as multifaceted, you can now recognize the Gamer ability as something both from within and without yourself. This realization will be important for your future path.
What you got from reaching level 20 wasn't as straightforward as the other skills you mastered, but you could tell that it could possibly be even better than the others. The mastery specially, considering that it was the first time your ability referred to itself.
You were itching to explore your new gains, but you simply did not have the time. It was already late saturday, and it was almost time to go to the gang meeting.
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A.N: This was taking too long, so I decided to split the chapter in two so you didn't have to wait so much. Part 2 will come faster, together with the choices.
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We are going to be a dangerously sane villain. I bet that we could beat many different forms of mind control (even mundane kinds) at this point and we will learn to beat more.
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Well, this is certainly interesting. We have reached Enlightenment. I wonder if with a bit more of Self-Hypnosis experimentation, if we could probably eliminate the need of sleep entirely. Because there are people like that in the world, who don't need a single wink of sleep.
Speaking of, I think that is something we should try to cap next. Self-Hypnosis. We now truely understand our own mind, now we should reach for mastery of manipulating it and changing it to how we wish it to be.
Speaking of, I think that is something we should try to cap next. Self-Hypnosis. We now truely understand our own mind, now we should reach for mastery of manipulating it and changing it to how we wish it to be.
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We have gotten rid of the psychological functions needs for sleep already. In order to get rid of the physical ones we are going to need healing magic or something.
I don't think that most mages have managed our level of mental discipline. Edit: never mind we are only at 9. I expect that there are many people in the world that have about 10 and mages are more likely then the average to be among their number.
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Thing is, most of the things the body does while it's asleep it can do while it's awake too. It doesn't for a variety of reasons, but that is where Self-Hypnosis comes in in making the body work the way we want it to, rather than the way it evolved to. Such a concept is related to how Polyphasic Sleep works.
Also, @Kinni Can we perform mental actions while Meditative Sleeping? Have our mind do stuff while our body rests?
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We have already reduced our sleep to 2 hours. Using those two hours a day to consider our day seems healthy.
I don't think that we should try training in them.
I don't think that we should try training in them.
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Why can't we consider the day during the day itself? Work through the stuff as they come up rather than just waiting for them to pile up to be dealt with as a batch.
Trying to figure out how to reduce neccessary sleep to 0 is perfectly in line with both of Iara's obsessions, especially since it seems doing so is side-benefit of a path of action we'd probably pursue anyways.
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Lara is a busy person always going at 110% some maintenance time is useful to increase tolerances.
However she could likely do it in class. Sleep with her eyes open. Or any other time that she is forced to wait. I expect that there should be 2 hours worth of that in a day.
Edit: In fact she can pay attention well in meditation and get the benefits of sleeping. Do it in class and there is no difference from not needed to sleep.
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If we want to maximize our time we should actually spend some effort to get our GED and test out of school. It is a huge time sink that is kinda useless to us.
However she could likely do it in class. Sleep with her eyes open. Or any other time that she is forced to wait. I expect that there should be 2 hours worth of that in a day.
Edit: In fact she can pay attention well in meditation and get the benefits of sleeping. Do it in class and there is no difference from not needed to sleep.
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If we want to maximize our time we should actually spend some effort to get our GED and test out of school. It is a huge time sink that is kinda useless to us.
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But why does said maintence have to happen in discreet chunks, rather than continuous maintenance? Especially considering, as I have stated, we know it's possible, based on the fact that there are people who do it.
Whether or not we can do mental stuff while "sleeping" was a question I asked, cause if we can, then your suggestion of sleeping in class would work. However it's possible that we can pay attention only to the extent of maintaining an awareness of our surroundings, not to the extent of being able to learn and remember things. Which is why I asked Kinni.
@Kinni Another question, can we break out required downtime into several chunks? Cause if we don't need to do the 2 hours at once, then yeah, we could grab naps whenever we have to wait, like grab 10-20 minutes on the public bus on our way to wherever.
Relatedly, can we rest different parts of our body at a time? Like if we are doing something that only requires our arms, can the rest of our body be asleep?
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I would give that one a hard no. Even when using just the arms, you are still putting at least minor stress on the majority of your core.
The micronap plan should work just fine though.
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What skill would it be to constantly be aware of our condition and how much sleep we need?
I would have thought meditation, but we have already maxed that out and we still needed to run tests.
I would have thought meditation, but we have already maxed that out and we still needed to run tests.
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Not neccessarily. Like say you are typing. Prop your arm right, then you could completely relax the rest of your body while leaving you fingers within the right position to do the typing required. You'd also have to prop your head if you want to see what's on the monitor, but that's doable.
And even if it does induce minor stress, that seems like it'd only reduce the quality of sleep for the rest of the body, not entirely disrupt it.
It could be Meditation and as such we already have it, but could also perhaps be via Self-Hypnosis (so that most of your mind is asleep except the relevant parts) or Mental Discipline (better ability to interpret and store incoming information).
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Well I think that we are going to train Mental Discipline next. Might as well get our GED well doing it. Studying everything that we might learn in school seems like a good way to train it.
Darn. So yeah, something we wana work on. Get those final two hours of the day back.
We probably can't without claiming super powers. In the states, you have to be atleast 16 to take it, and we are 14.
Plus, it would probably attract a fair bit of attention, since I imagine that supers do tend to opt for the GED, and as such people who do the GED might be a Super.