A Game of Crowns (Mafia)

Cyricubed · Oct 29, 2019

[X] Lynch BanTheFairyKing

If you get a moment Comi I'd like you to restate why you think me and Ban are scummates, meanwhile I'm going to do a review on Ban that I've been putting off and putting this up to encourage me to do this. Regardless I still think Comi is scum. But I just highly doubt the roleblocker would have been playing so openly.

mesonoxian · Oct 29, 2019

ComiTurtle said:
I'm just going to prepare for my pokemon tournament and hope you all somehow don't lose tonight, Nictis is playing absolutely garbage and is completely unwilling to do any work to look for actual scum, I keep saying its Ban, and Cyricubed, his confirmed ally says its Ban too... and he just says I'm scum because I'm one-shot bullet-proof. I'm at the point I wish I didn't replace into this slot, because Nictis is honestly taking any fun out of playing the game for me, especially since I can't even argue he is doing anything but playing poorly because I can't reasonably believe the VIP set-up isn't in effect given the hints in lynch posts.

We have almost 2 days to figure this out. I'm not going to say you have to keep playing if you're having a bad time, but there is no reason to dump on @Nictis for not being ready to do a deep dive right now or agreeing with your reasoning, especially when they've said they are very tired. This is a long form game and not everyone is going to be ready to go at all times.

Hell, I had a couple bad mental health episodes, one of which took me out of a substantial part of Day 2. Thankfully the other fell mostly on a night period. The nature of any game that takes weeks and has dozens of players is that there will be rough patches for everybody, and Nictis is still participating, which is better than what I have managed sometimes.

mesonoxian · Oct 29, 2019

That said, I don't think @ComiTurtle is necessarily the best lynch. I'm leaning toward @Cyricubed @BanTheFairyKing @DimensionalGuy or Est , and since Est is probably getting modkilled for reasons beyond their control, we can probably eliminate them from that concern. If @Est would rollclaim now, it would be useful to have that data point before we deliberate further about who to lynch.

InterstellarHobo · Oct 29, 2019

Ok so I'm 100% convinced you're wrong about the setup. I'm also not inclined to spend much time arguing it, since there are more important things to do both in and out of game. But I think I have sufficiently damning evidence that it's worth presenting.

Nictis said:
It goes against what this kind of setup is meant to be. It also entirely screws over a single-shot Assassin, which is kind of the premise of the King's Game. Not to mention that we already had a Doctor apparently...

The thing here, is that you've already got bodyguards. That single-shot Assassin is already screwed. There is no way for a single-shot Assassin to kill you if you can recruit Bodyguards. (Unless it's a strongman kill, in which case the bodyguards are entirely pointless.)
One of the bodyguards taking two hits to down doesn't make them significantly more screwed.
If we make the assumptions that A: none of the players have unachievable wincons and B: this frankly rather major mechanic isn't entirely pointless, I don't see a way to permit a limited kill assassin with the goal of killing you.

It honestly makes far more sense for the people after you to be a group with unlimited kills. If we have such a group and a traditional mafia, why aren't both killing? Same question for if there's a serial killer?

I'm not gonna respond in depth to the rest of the post, because time is short. You're right about the TD stuff. I remain unconvinced that Comi is scum, but I am no longer convinced Comi is town.
If there's anything you'd specifically like me to respond to just ask.

InterstellarHobo · Oct 29, 2019

Also, if the massclaim happens this evening I won't be able to respond until ~1 AM. (9 hours from the time of this post)
Also also, what on earth do you look for to identify a roleblocker? (Prior to massclaim) It seems like an easy role to perfectly obfuscate

Cyricubed · Oct 29, 2019

InterstellarHobo said:
Also also, what on earth do you look for to identify a roleblocker? (Prior to massclaim) It seems like an easy role to perfectly obfuscate

It's mostly mechanical catches.

Cyricubed · Oct 29, 2019

InterstellarHobo said:
But I think I have sufficiently damning evidence that it's worth presenting.

Was um...that quote the evidence or are you holding something up your sleeve?

InterstellarHobo · Oct 30, 2019

The analysis of the quote was the evidence. Nothing up my sleeves.

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

There is one other detail, well two, but one other detail relevant to that that I will be keeping close to the chest.

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

Unless if @Evenstar (Who hasn't been around much lately?) wants me to just say everything, anyways. Still some bits that are better off unknown I think.

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

It's gonna take a while to make a case on Cyricubed and Ban, mostly looking at Comi's previous posts on those two and having to go grab quotes myself because he only referred to the stuff he was talking about, and at this point it's almost easier to just reread the thread entirely. Gonna try and knock it out tonight though, see what merit his points hold. (So far the only thing I'm seeing on Cyri is 'Cyri and Ban's interaction with Est (Currently still unflipped) makes me think that they are scum' so I've got to go hunt through Ban and Cyri's posts towards Est [I think I can remember one point where Cyri and Est had an interesting interaction, but can't remember atm. Meant to look for it a while ago] as well.)

Albany · Oct 30, 2019

Nictis said:
It's gonna take a while to make a case on Cyricubed and Ban, mostly looking at Comi's previous posts on those two and having to go grab quotes myself because he only referred to the stuff he was talking about, and at this point it's almost easier to just reread the thread entirely. Gonna try and knock it out tonight though, see what merit his points hold. (So far the only thing I'm seeing on Cyri is 'Cyri and Ban's interaction with Est (Currently still unflipped) makes me think that they are scum' so I've got to go hunt through Ban and Cyri's posts towards Est [I think I can remember one point where Cyri and Est had an interesting interaction, but can't remember atm. Meant to look for it a while ago] as well.)

...I'ma be honest, I'm pretty sure I've only interacted with Est once and it was after he ended the day on me for like the second time with no real reason given.

Cyricubed · Oct 30, 2019

Nictis said:
It's gonna take a while to make a case on Cyricubed and Ban, mostly looking at Comi's previous posts on those two and having to go grab quotes myself because he only referred to the stuff he was talking about, and at this point it's almost easier to just reread the thread entirely. Gonna try and knock it out tonight though, see what merit his points hold. (So far the only thing I'm seeing on Cyri is 'Cyri and Ban's interaction with Est (Currently still unflipped) makes me think that they are scum' so I've got to go hunt through Ban and Cyri's posts towards Est [I think I can remember one point where Cyri and Est had an interesting interaction, but can't remember atm. Meant to look for it a while ago] as well.)

Bit confused here, currently 80% done with my lookover

PyrrosWarrior · Oct 30, 2019

Pre-Post Edit: Guys, I am running out of steam on this and we are running out of time, so here is the Est part early since it's honestly not that important from what I can see. Do you guys just want me to post a general reads? I am legitimately burning out on how much to do this is. I've fallen into a hole where I start to feel physically and/or mentally exhausted so I lose productivity, but I can't take a break because all I am thinking of is how I promised to do this! What should I do guys?

Est said:
You seem nervous

terrible read incoming

...

How classy of you

Est said:
These were my reads during the first two pages before I left for work:

Rosen claimed to start taking investigation seriously but kept a fairly upbeat tone. Time will tell if this is hype for a new game or fake. Asked some questions, 2 of them seem irrelevant but his reasoning was okayish when i asked for clarification on 1 of them. made assumptions on yhe game, and did mafia 101 but there are new players so this is fair.

Ban just kinda existed. Came into the thread and answered questions, and not much else. Did nothing to keep discussion going

Mesonoxian has a username i keep misspelling so Ill call them Meso for my sanity. He questioned Rosen on something. Then told me goodbye as i left for work. Could be out of politeness, or not

TurtleDucks seemed to take a long time to answer my simple icebreaker

These guys stuck out to me the most then, I had no real reads on the others

Ill wait a couple more pages before I do another attempt at a read.

Est said:
In my half suppressed memories I always suffered as a maf. People told me its easy to tell if im maf or not, because of how much energy I put into day phase. Unfortunate but true.

Heres hoping I improve my scum game as I play in SV

Est said:
So you enjoy deceiving people?

Est said:
In my case, playing wolfy means I know who's who thus my lackluster day performances, barring the occasional games with SKs.

Im behind the current meta, but if players nowadays think that vanillas are boring, Im afraid the meaning of D1 investigation has been lost

@Nictis what do you currently think of 1K?

Est said:
You mean youll convince your buddies not to bandwagon people that protect you? how reassuring

Est said:
Now that Ive read the thread until the latest post, if Rosen were truly scum I see him trying to set up a helpful persona, then propose different camps with his talk of the current setup, giving his homies a chance to infiltrate these factions. Thereby dividing the town.

Est said:
At this point in the game, Rosen looks like certified USDA approved Mislynch Bait. Meso made some good points, but my personal experience speaking with Rosen was NAI, as it was too short-lived. I'll wait till he comes back for another chat, in the meantime I'll try picking up new lines of questioning.

Est said:
Probably town

Est said:
Hmm. I take back my assessment

Est said:
The most interesting thing that happened so far was Even's claim of being neighborly

TurtleDucks was voted by 3 people

Rosen pinged people but not so much

@Absum , what are your thoughts on the current TD wagon (tiny as it is)

Est said:
Thanks Meso

Ok this is my last post before I leave

I mostly agree with everything you said, but sometimes a townie makes an ice breaker post that doesnt really help with wolf detecting but the wolves swarm and respond to it, to look busy and add to their post counts, etc.

With that said, @-Rosen if you really are town you better start hunting because multiple people have been pinged

Est said:
At this point I would totes get behind a Nictis/Evenstar/Absum towncore but it's too good to be true...

Tonight Ill be rereading the thread and isoing some people

Est said:
Before I get into my personal reads I want to say, that while there have been some general fear of Rosen being a mislynch, no one has provided a reason as to why this could be a mislynch

Ugh, explaining is hard

Skimming the thread there was a mention of 1) Rosen being proud of being a hard to read player (playstyle argument), 2) Rosen just flat out making a bad play/mistake, etc., 3) not enough damning evidence to lynch Rosen, and 4) gut feeling that Rosen is a mislynch

These could explain why Rosen might not be maf, but it doesnt explain why Rosen might be town

Like, I try not to read people asymmetrically, especially if Ive never met them before, and the people who gave the reasons stated above didnt follow up on it as far as I can tell, or maybe they just kept their reasons to themselves?? idk

But I havent seen anyone take the extra step, critically thinking about why Rosens thoughts might be coming from a town mindset, they just looked at the general case and said "yeah, but could be townie, because x"

@Cyricubed if you see this before we hit EoD, could I ask you why Rosen went from a scum read to a neutral read?

Est said:
I still have to read page 30-34 but here, have my current reads

LEAN TOWN
Absum: Chill dude, gets the point across, asks pointed questions, almost everything I want in a town player right here...used to be rated higher but the fact that 2 people townread him on D1 with no explanation made me wary, because the cake could be a lie
1K: Seems to genuinely be trying to win the game her own way
PW: Frustration at not knowing anything is a town mindset, but combined with the reveal of a possible 'twist' of the current game setup, I cant put him any higher...plus I am self aware of my weakness to appeals to emotion

CANT MAKE UP MY MIND (but verging on scumlean)
Cyricubed: A lot of going back and forth on this one, his deep ISO of Absum and TD simultaneously on D1 felt like useless busywork to me especially with the weak conclusion at the end and all the NAI posts that didnt need to be included, BUT I am liking his later posts
Nictis: Some grit I dont like, and some refusal to be tamed that I do like, plus that decision to do a partial-reveal of his in-game knowledge could be seen as a masterful play by a maf to cover his ass...I wouldnt lynch him early either way, because if he were maf his posts provide content to bounce off of, and if he were town it would be terrible if we lost 3 strong townies in a row...
Ban: Toneread them as distant, or perhaps disconnected from the thread on D1, and then came his vote to lynch ES which contained a backdoor in the same post, both which would make sense from the lens of a maf, but recent reveal of RL stuff has me reconsider my scumread anew
ES: see Nictis

CURRENTLY STUDYING
Cyri, Absum, 1K, Nictis: The sooner I can confirm my reads on them, the less I have to worry about – especially Nictis

Est said:
OH HAI

Some quick hits:

Almost every read on this list is the direct opposite of mine... have my shortcomings caught up to me once again?

@Absum if/when you see this, you once said you found some interaction between Nictis and ES on D1 strange/weird/off, care to explain/expand on why that is?

Est said:
Holy sh#t that wall of text, and no links to boot?... Comi you rood bastard

Im ignoring this for now, also light scumread because its like hes too concerned with looking busy, wants to be seen doing things, etc.

And Im not a fan of this... idk, agenda-less notetaking? Color it my responsibility to focus on this asap I guess

lol Nictis get out of my head

Current thoughts on D2:
Im surprised that 2 people thought QT was still alive...is this a real mistake, or scum taking refuge in audacity?

And now Im paranoid over Absum

Est said:
I can post this for now, at least...

Here are my incomplete reads as of the beginning of D3, which I will expand on later:

Sort of trusted - Cyri, PW, Absum, 1K

Null - Happerry

Neutral (leaning scum) - Comi, Ban, Nictis, ES

Scum - Meso, DG

Im betting on 2-3 wolves (not including LttL), so at least 1 guy from my Sort of Trusted and/or 1 from my Neutral list is prolly scum

Est said:
Not sure if this is any help, but for those who missed it the first time, I toneread people

And from what I saw of Nictis, the easy camaraderie he shared with ES made me wonder about the two of them, especially when compared with some of his interactions with others...at least, from a tonereading standpoint

Wont post all of my notes here, but here are some highlights:

*) Whatever rolecard Nanimani pulled, he is NOT cooperating with Nictis

*) Similar to the above, 1K and ES are NOT working together

*) Due to the nature of the Veil, there is a possibility that nobody (with a single exception I can name off the top of my head) has the ability to coordinate via QT, including the maf

*) The Veil supposedly renders us unable to recognize one another, so why did ES claim to be in a neighborhood? Does this have something to do with how friendly he was with Nictis (and viceversa) even as early as D1?

This is just a peek into why I kept Nictis/ES as Neutral, because on one hand I thought they were either townies heavily involved with maintaining the Veil, or mafs with powers that could possibly circumvent or exploit a loophole in the Veil...

If they were really town, it was my responsibility as a fellow townie to not bring too much attention to them, and if they were maf they needed to be taken down yesterday

Thats why Nictis was one of the 4 on my must ISO list during D2, because to me it was imperative that I figure out whether to back him (and ES by association) or to start wailing on him/them

My thoughts on the roleclaim Nictis made can be summarized as the following:

"Well...Sounds plausible, and could explain some things...but I just dont know."

Est said:
I didnt say anything before when it was first mentioned, but Absum is being voted right now because...he was acting like an unusually well informed player D1?

Absum was on my townlean list, thus I spent all my energy on other players but now that hes a POI its time for a second look I suppose

Also now that Ive gotten some much needed sleep, I still think we shouldnt lynch Comi today, even with @Cyricubed reminding me of the potential for 2 scumteams

This is just one, LARGE collection of potentially important quotes from Est. His general "lolrandom" manner of speaking and posting makes it really hard to commentate on anything about him and also made it a trying task to continue reading his posts. Overall though, I would say Est seems likely Town, if an incredibly amateurish one, in my eyes from what few things of substance he did give in defending now-known Town players even at the risk of unpopular backlash.

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

If you want to do a general reads you can, but if you need to take a break that's okay.

mesonoxian · Oct 30, 2019

PyrrosWarrior said:
Pre-Post Edit: Guys, I am running out of steam on this and we are running out of time, so here is the Est part early since it's honestly not that important from what I can see. Do you guys just want me to post a general reads? I am legitimately burning out on how much to do this is. I've fallen into a hole where I start to feel physically and/or mentally exhausted so I lose productivity, but I can't take a break because all I am thinking of is how I promised to do this! What should I do guys?

This is just one, LARGE collection of potentially important quotes from Est. His general "lolrandom" manner of speaking and posting makes it really hard to commentate on anything about him and also made it a trying task to continue reading his posts. Overall though, I would say Est seems likely Town, if an incredibly amateurish one, in my eyes from what few things of substance he did give in defending now-known Town players even at the risk of unpopular backlash.

General reads are fine with me. Don't even stress about those, if you need some time off. This is supposed to be fun, after all

.

Cyricubed · Oct 30, 2019

So I'll do a Day 1/2/3 breakdown of my general thoughts

D1- Ban's there and talks a fair chunk but honestly feels like he's distancing from the lynch overall, stating -Rosen v Nictis seems like town v town while on the vote lynch. Eventually moves off towards Evenstar but for the most part feels like a very distanced Ban. I don't remember ban's general D1 plays so not sure if this is off or not. At base value disregarding meta I can see this as distancing but at that very innocent distancing. Not much to say here otherwise.

D2. Starts out the day making some more comments on his stance on the d1 lynch, gives notes about whats going on with their meatspace stuff. Points out that Even basically did an Omgus vote(Which is a frequent occurrence here) Later gave a reads list which provided some insight. Didn't like how he town read me for defending rosen, which I don't think I did, I just said I didn't agree with the lynch and he even points scum could have easily did this but said it felt town. Feels like buddying. Overall vague reads otherwise. Weird post regarding VT claims and then poof...no ban for the last bits of the day phase finishing with a vote on Evenstar again.

D3. Now that Lttl is dead and flipped scum Ban once again homed in on Evenstar. Focuses shortly after on Nictis regarding him dropping hints about the win con for scum from his pov, Notes he doesn't like the Comi/Absum wagons later. Quickly backpedals away after Nictis cracks open the eggshell regarding him being VIP and Even being a bomb BG. Notes confusion(Totally fair cause I was too) and throws a vote to Comi. Ends up in a neutral stance because they can't seem to find anyone sus. Ends the day with...a slight scum read on DG and neutral read on IH but moves onto happ wagon.

D4. Ban brings up a solid point vs Comi as they didn't really explain much at their initial vote. The rest is some attention at est and neutral talk

My biggest thing I'm pulling here is that...Ban...Isn't taking a stance. Most everything they've done with the exception of Even is neutral at best, I don't like that, it feels like a shield of gray lines that make it difficult to say: But what is actually sus about ban? I could consider the sheeping onto happerry sus as both Happ and Absum flipped town but at the same time I sheeped initially back onto absum soo yeah.

Atm I want to get more from ban, I want to see a stance be taken so I'm going to hold my lynch vote atm.

@Nictis you asked why I don't think that Comi is the roleblocker, it's because I doubt the scum roleblocker would attempt to draw that kind of attention to themselves. At best Comi is a goon, at worst he's just something else period. I don't know what else to say but I just don't read him as the roleblocker.

Albany · Oct 30, 2019

Cyricubed said:
So I'll do a Day 1/2/3 breakdown of my general thoughts

D1- Ban's there and talks a fair chunk but honestly feels like he's distancing from the lynch overall, stating -Rosen v Nictis seems like town v town while on the vote lynch. Eventually moves off towards Evenstar but for the most part feels like a very distanced Ban. I don't remember ban's general D1 plays so not sure if this is off or not. At base value disregarding meta I can see this as distancing but at that very innocent distancing. Not much to say here otherwise.

D2. Starts out the day making some more comments on his stance on the d1 lynch, gives notes about whats going on with their meatspace stuff. Points out that Even basically did an Omgus vote(Which is a frequent occurrence here) Later gave a reads list which provided some insight. Didn't like how he town read me for defending rosen, which I don't think I did, I just said I didn't agree with the lynch and he even points scum could have easily did this but said it felt town. Feels like buddying. Overall vague reads otherwise. Weird post regarding VT claims and then poof...no ban for the last bits of the day phase finishing with a vote on Evenstar again.

D3. Now that Lttl is dead and flipped scum Ban once again homed in on Evenstar. Focuses shortly after on Nictis regarding him dropping hints about the win con for scum from his pov, Notes he doesn't like the Comi/Absum wagons later. Quickly backpedals away after Nictis cracks open the eggshell regarding him being VIP and Even being a bomb BG. Notes confusion(Totally fair cause I was too) and throws a vote to Comi. Ends up in a neutral stance because they can't seem to find anyone sus. Ends the day with...a slight scum read on DG and neutral read on IH but moves onto happ wagon.

D4. Ban brings up a solid point vs Comi as they didn't really explain much at their initial vote. The rest is some attention at est and neutral talk

My biggest thing I'm pulling here is that...Ban...Isn't taking a stance. Most everything they've done with the exception of Even is neutral at best, I don't like that, it feels like a shield of gray lines that make it difficult to say: But what is actually sus about ban? I could consider the sheeping onto happerry sus as both Happ and Absum flipped town but at the same time I sheeped initially back onto absum soo yeah.

Atm I want to get more from ban, I want to see a stance be taken so I'm going to hold my lynch vote atm.

@Nictis you asked why I don't think that Comi is the roleblocker, it's because I doubt the scum roleblocker would attempt to draw that kind of attention to themselves. At best Comi is a goon, at worst he's just something else period. I don't know what else to say but I just don't read him as the roleblocker.

[X] Lynch Interstellar Hobo

Here's a stance for you. Earlier in the day I made a point about how a few players were sheeping Nictis, including IH. Immediately after he clarifies that he was trying to Lynch Eva, which fair though normally if someone makes a mistake like that the vets will tell them before EoD. Idk if someone did and he wasn't active as I wasn't really active myself at that point, but figured I should point it out.

Immediately after that IH starts to target Nictis and his setup spec, which is also fair. Honestly the setup spec for this game is confusing at to me, but if you see flaws then please, comment.

Neither of these on their own mean much, but as they came right after my post about them following Nictis it feels exactly what Cyri is accusing me of - sheeping.

As to the Comi lynch... At this point I sincerely believe that he believes I'm scum. I'm not, and I'm not sure where he's getting such surety from, but it doesn't feel like scum targeting opportunistically targeting a townie anymore.

Now, is the option of him being scum and thinking I'm with the other faction, or him being neutral who thinks I'm scum open? Yeah. Genuine belief isn't enough for a townread when we have multiple non-town parties. It does erode my primary reason for thinking he's suspicious though.

Albany · Oct 30, 2019

...I meant distancing instead of sheeping lol

mesonoxian · Oct 30, 2019

[X] lynch BanTheFairyKing

I wanted to go ahead and vote if I am unavailable at end of day.

InterstellarHobo · Oct 30, 2019

BanTheFairyKing said:
[X] Lynch Interstellar Hobo

Here's a stance for you. Earlier in the day I made a point about how a few players were sheeping Nictis, including IH. Immediately after he clarifies that he was trying to Lynch Eva, which fair though normally if someone makes a mistake like that the vets will tell them before EoD. Idk if someone did and he wasn't active as I wasn't really active myself at that point, but figured I should point it out.

Immediately after that IH starts to target Nictis and his setup spec, which is also fair. Honestly the setup spec for this game is confusing at to me, but if you see flaws then please, comment.

Neither of these on their own mean much, but as they came right after my post about them following Nictis it feels exactly what Cyri is accusing me of - sheeping.

As to the Comi lynch... At this point I sincerely believe that he believes I'm scum. I'm not, and I'm not sure where he's getting such surety from, but it doesn't feel like scum targeting opportunistically targeting a townie anymore.

Now, is the option of him being scum and thinking I'm with the other faction, or him being neutral who thinks I'm scum open? Yeah. Genuine belief isn't enough for a townread when we have multiple non-town parties. It does erode my primary reason for thinking he's suspicious though.

I actively argued against the -Rosen lynch, and this is not the first time I have targetted Nictis' setup spec.

Here's the post where I voted on Evenstar.

InterstellarHobo said:
Well, I'm still awake. But, it's basically the same arguments you were making before, and I at least just can't see any of the evidence you're citing as important.

I feel like it's important to vote according to expressed beliefs, to give concrete backing to stated motivations.
But, fundamentally, there's nobody I think has even a fifty fifty of being scum.
I do think
[X] Evenstar
has been too cagy about their motivations. I still think it's more likely the early lynches were shoddy pressure tactics, and this recent silence is definitely the call of IRL, but... I believe it's better odds than anyone else.
I'll rethink this in the morning if I wake up in time, and possibly regret it in the morning if I don't, but at the moment

This is genuine inexperience, and I went to sleep immediately after.
I am not willing to exploit my newness to pull gambits.

Albany · Oct 30, 2019

Look, if we're going to put me at double the train of the next person I would seriously appreciate actual arguments.

So far I've heard that I've been distant, and that I'm scum by process of elimination. I have four votes, but all people are willing to tell me is that they have a gut feeling that I'm bad. If y'all want me to claim, tell me to claim. If you want me to explain something, I'll explain something. But please stop just creeping the vote up while leaving me no recourse to actually defend myself.

Cyricubed · Oct 30, 2019

mesonoxian said:
[X] lynch BanTheFairyKing

I wanted to go ahead and vote if I am unavailable at end of day.

Reasonings?

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

Home now, about to be helping someone deal with the water heater. I'm probably not going to be making that post I was talking about because I don't feel like rereading the thread, and that's basically what I would need to do for it.

Comi has been consistent(ly not quoting stuff) in regards to Ban, I don't know what he was talking about in regards to Cyri and don't feel like trying to make his point for him. @ComiTurtle sorry to drag you back in, but what were you referring to when you said that Cyricubed was scum?

I am going to try and check on a few other people, but I'll admit that I'm not feeling like trying too hard at the moment.

Nictis · Oct 30, 2019

Day ends in fifteen hours and fifteen minutes.

Yeah, not doing that post about Ban and Cyri that I was talking about.

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