So go read/watch something instead of having a story explain it? Or the author of said story? There wasn't even a link to a wiki. I know by not doing so I am missing out, however that also doesn't absolve you by using such things without any regard to people that don't know that half. As a author your job is to make it all come together and work without people having to study up on things.

Or you could try enjoying it by not being lazy and at least look it yourself? Many also would says that as a reader of fanfics, it's your job to at least knows the basic of the said fanfic source. It's not like you can't just Google it. After all, fanfic are usually written by someone who has knowledge of the source, and those who read it are usually presumed to knows it. I know I'm learning about Worm from being open minded and start googling it after reading a fanfic story with Worm crossover with it. And I enjoy it better after having basic knowledge of it, not having to be spoonfed by the Fanfic authors.

Not trolling, and I love how you quote one part of post and respond to that instead of the entire thing. By picking and choosing you loose what I was getting at, so thanks for that. You know "This just seems" means just that, seem and not a actual fact. Grow up and actually do this correctly. No cherry picking to be a dick and get on a high horse like you did here.

Though my apologies if my honest post offends the writer of a rape scene. Truthfully as this seems to upset you we both didn't like that scene equally though in some different ways. I myself am offended that instead of answering questions you go on this mini rant. I now see how you take criticism.

Also rape can happen to males and by you pointing out your a woman means nothing besides you saying "I wrote a rape scene being done to a woman when I am one! Feels!". Oh yes one final thing. I like how a comment that seemingly upset you is the only way you responded to a reader asking serious questions and expressing their opinion. Nice.

Well, you could also being a grown up and learns that being polite doesn't mean just not using swear words. And learns there are many ways people can quote a post in the internet. And you might have a true constructive critics in your post, but for me, with the way you wrote it, honestly your past posts read as nitpicking for faults and exaggerating it, pardon my bahasa.

If that sets the tone for them going forward, which is having an introduction according to you followed by rape, then we shall stop here. I have no temptation to see what horror and tragedies you will inflect on their bodies and minds to give Taylor a push or shake her up in the future. This also says to me you will be doing such things again, as you please for the same reason. I might be wrong, but with how you wrote that there is how I am taking it.

*Shrugs*
It might be better for you not to read this fics further, then. As many of us here who knows both sources has said in the thread (of which you're seemingly too lazy to read, pardon my bahasa again), Nasuverse is more descriptive and realistic towards tragedy than Worm. And those tragedy doesn't need to reasons to happen, as it is in reality. Sometimes, just be in the wrong place in the wrong times is enough, as it happens in this story. Being pretty Japanese twins in a town full of racist and violent gangs? yeah, things will happens.

Now do you see how using the quote function as I did is easier for everyone involved? And it makes reading and understanding things after a time make sense? It also means no one will be going back to edit their post to clean it up or make themselves look better. Still, once again thanks for answering.

You know that you contradict yourself with that edit on your post, right? And again, you might want to learn again how to be more open minded and accept that different people has different style. And maybe learn how to be more polite in writing a reply. This newest post of yours reads to me as you being asshole instead of legitimate critics. Again. It is also easier for everyone involved if everyone is polite.
 
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First off this is the first time I have been on this site in a bit, so sorry it took so long to respond. Secondly let me show you how to use a quote function instead of how you did it. Not going from one section of a post to the next, it makes it weird as it jumps all around.
I can't speak for ensou, but your general tone seems to be really condescending, to the point that it irritates me to read it even without being the one its addressed to. I'd suggest trying to phrase things in a less adversarial fashion to avoid that kind of emotional response overwhelming the impact of whatever point you're actually trying to make. Making readers think "Is he trolling? Gotta be trolling," does not lead to a reasoned consideration of the arguments involved.
 
So go read/watch something instead of having a story explain it? Or the author of said story? There wasn't even a link to a wiki. I know by not doing so I am missing out, however that also doesn't absolve you by using such things without any regard to people that don't know that half. As a author your job is to make it all come together and work without people having to study up on things.
...What? I'm sorry, what? The author must explain in detail what one of the selling points of the story is so that you can understand why you should like it? In other words, the author should spoonfeed you the meaning behind certain actions or appeals in order for you to form a proper, intelligent opinion?

I just...

No, no, moving on...

Generally, when someone says something like that, like "the Matou Sakura & Asagami Fujino treatment," I'd assume any reader interested would try to look up what that means, or failing that, ask about it.
Though my apologies if my honest post offends the writer of a rape scene.
Why does this feel like, "I'm sorry you're a horrible human being?"
Shock value to cause a visceral reaction and shove faces into how the ABB operate for plot development on Taylor. Yes, I have read and now know they are worthless as people and characters and only matter for that one reason according to you. So up top for why I should care about them is more along the lines of the effect their being alive and going through that causes Taylor and not them personally.
...I feel like there's a fundamental misunderstanding going on, here. ALL characters are in some way relevant to the plot, and just because some serve a vital function in moving a particular plot or subplot forward doesn't mean they're otherwise worthless.
If that sets the tone for them going forward, which is having an introduction according to you followed by rape, then we shall stop here. I have no temptation to see what horror and tragedies you will inflect on their bodies and minds to give Taylor a push or shake her up in the future. This also says to me you will be doing such things again, as you please for the same reason. I might be wrong, but with how you wrote that there is how I am taking it.
...Did you read my posts at all? Or anyone else's except @ensou's? Nasuverse sucks hard. The setting is brilliant, the characters are generally likeable or despicable for all the right reasons, with well considered reasons for their actions and behaviors, and the lore is so deep that people still debate certain parts of it more than 10 years after the initial release. But it's not generally a place you want to live. Humanity is at the bottom of the scale and everything else (just about) wants us dead for one reason or another. The collective unconscious of mankind, the cumulative drive to survive that keeps the human species alive, also does its level best to maintain the status quo, which means no single person can make any significant difference (for the better). It also goes nuclear on anything or anyone that reaches a certain level of threat, often with collateral equivalent to an atomic bomb.

Bad things happen, and not always for a reason. Yumizuka Satsuki was at the wrong place at the wrong time and became the victim of a vampire, despite being an otherwise normal girl. Kotomine Kirei was born with a unique magical trait that makes it so he can only find enjoyment in other people's suffering. Thousands of people died in a single night, through no fault of their own, when a dark god threw a hissy fit over Emiya Kiritsugu refusing to let it kill all of mankind. Tohsaka Sakura was given up for adoption by her father because he wanted both his daughters to flourish as magi and he could only train the older sister, Rin; the old magus she was adopted by, Matou Zouken, proceeded to do unspeakable things to her with worm familiars that possessed a grotesquely phallic shape.

And that's just for starters. Asagami Fujino had it pretty bad. Bluebeard (Gilles de Rais) committed horrible acts upon dozens of children, to the point where Waver Velvet lost his lunch when he and Rider discovered the lair where the bodies were kept (and sometimes "primed" for much darker purposes). The orphans left over from that dark god's hissy fit...well, their fates are revealed at the end of Fate Route in FSN. It's bad. Emiya Shirou only escaped being one of them by being adopted by Kiritsugu, and he's well aware of that when he finds them.

The point is, those of us familiar with the source material aren't anywhere near as impacted by the latest chapter as you are, because we knew what to expect from Nasuverse. Though I don't think any of us outright expected that scene in particular, we're familiar with the themes and such that @ensou is working with. That's why we think you're being uncharitable and nitpicking, and why several people have said, "Go watch KnK."

Seriously. Go watch KnK. Digest everything that happens in it for a few days. Then, if you still think that scene is too much, come back and give a well-reasoned, cordial response.
 
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za warudo - the thread continues @Acairta has been infracted 25 points and threadbanned for a week for incredibly disruptive behaviour. The rest of you, stay on topic, and don't talk about him in any capacity until he returns. If he's disruptive or uncivil again when he does, report him.

Incidentally the way to respond to a quote is to make a quote and address it as a whole, not to chop it into tiny bits. Spaghetti posting is a pain in the ass for everyone involved, and only makes you look like an asshole.
 
Really? I always thought chopping it up helped to tell the person what part you were responding to in the post. Especially if it's a big one.
IMO it depends on how far you take it. Some people think it's prone to devolving into a thread war because it lends itself to trying to do a sentence by sentence refutal and getting drowned in details to score points.
 
Mmm yeah I usually chop a quote if I want to address one or two points and basically agree with the rest of the post.
If the whole post is what I want to counter the reply button is much easier.
 
Alright. I kinda stopped following after the huge argument began. Now that the mods came in and calmed everyone down, what's the current topic?
 
I think everyone's kind of flailing around for one that isn't inviting a new argument or continuing the old one. Either that or they actually do give a shit about quote styles.
 
Alright. I kinda stopped following after the huge argument began. Now that the mods came in and calmed everyone down, what's the current topic?
How about I give some prompts to make it easier, then? :p
  • What will Miss Militia and Dauntless find in their investigation?
  • How will the PRT react once they find out that "Switchblade" is not Manton-limited?
  • What sort of impact will suddenly having two of her best friends trigger have on Taylor and what she has to do with the ABB (not having even wanted to get involved in the first place)?
  • What sort of effect will it have on Tattletale, for that matter, knowing that she didn't reach the twins earlier and that she now has to deal with Taylor's reaction?
  • How will Taylor deal with the fact that, like it or not, she now has to somehow act as a deterrent against the E88 and the Merchants, whether that's with the ABB or not?
  • How the hell does Amy tie in to any of this?
  • How will she react upon finding out that Taylor is the one that killed Lung, Bakuda, and Oni Lee, and the cape that the PRT's freaking out about?
  • And of course, where's Danny in all of this and what's he thinking?
I mean, obviously all these questions and more will be answered in the story, but various speculation and discussion is a lot of fun for me to watch, and even gives me ideas sometimes :D
 
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How will the PRT react once they find out that "Switchblade" is not Manton-limited?

heheehhahahaahaAHahAHAHAhaha..ha.. :)

What sort of impact will suddenly having two of her best friends trigger have on Taylor and what she has to do with the ABB (not having even wanted to get involved in the first place)?

I hope it leads her to, when she's making decisions for the ABB, to ask herself "Will this keep the next Aya and Saya safe?"

What sort of effect will it have on Tattletale, for that matter, knowing that she didn't reach the twins earlier and that she now has to deal with Taylor's reaction?

I hope that Lisa helps Taylor deal with the weight of it and vice versa. (and that they help the twins, obviously) Nobody else knows what all happened that night, and they're (all of them) going to need support.
 
How will the PRT react once they find out that "Switchblade" is not Manton-limited?

At least I can be sure for this one; with extreme caution. Tagg will not be welcome in any committees that are set up in order to find a way to deal with "Switchblade", I bet.

How the hell does Amy tie in to any of this?

She learns the Bastardized version of the MEoDP? Hey, Roa could make a (fake) version to work for him, Amy's grasp of biology can do something similar? :p
 
I think Amy is going to find herself having all of her "Oh fuck not another patient, why do I always have to healbot?" thoughts replaced by thinking about hanging out with and/or getting into a powered fight with Switchblade, as Queen Shaper longs for a big satisfying bellyful of data on this fascinating new phenomenon.
 
I kind of figured that at some point Taylor is going to offer to kill her power as she said she doesn't really want it. (That should be possible to do with MEoDP without killing the parahuman, correct?)
It depends on if the connection is one of the abstract concepts she can now see. If she can see it, then yes - so long as the concept of "death" exists in an object it can be killed. The Entities are well-aware of death so they too are subject to the Eyes. Unless of course the line is impossible to trace, such as crossing into another dimension...
 
What will Miss Militia and Dauntless find in their investigation?
Fluids.

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How will the PRT react once they find out that "Switchblade" is not Manton-limited?
Pre-signed kill order, uncomfortable comparisons to certain other knife wielders, potentially preemptive offensive on either ABB or on E88 now that the balance of broken has broken wide open.
What sort of impact will suddenly having two of her best friends trigger have on Taylor and what she has to do with the ABB (not having even wanted to get involved in the first place)?
Legitimization of needing to knife her own subordinates to bring things in line.

What sort of effect will it have on Tattletale, for that matter, knowing that she didn't reach the twins earlier and that she now has to deal with Taylor's reaction?
Feelsbadman over the chain of events leading to Taylor needing to knife more people.
How will Taylor deal with the fact that, like it or not, she now has to somehow act as a deterrent against the E88 and the Merchants, whether that's with the ABB or not?
Compartmentalization and ignoring it, duh.
How the hell does Amy tie in to any of this?
Sad Azaka stand-in, clearly.
How will she react upon finding out that Taylor is the one that killed Lung, Bakuda, and Oni Lee, and the cape that the PRT's freaking out about?
"...maybe I should take a break."
And of course, where's Danny in all of this and what's he thinking?
Who cares?

...
 
Well, she's already got the whole "taboo" thing down :p

Man, does that mean Victoria actually has a knack for finding out things that she shouldn't be able to with wholly mundane means? :lol

"I asked Dean, who knew a guy that used to work in the Laboratory in the West Coast, who then knew a guy who used to work at the local pub, that remembers seen the man come in to have a drink before jumping state."
"How did you do that?"
"Huh? All I did was ask, duh."
 
Man, does that mean Victoria actually has a knack for finding out things that she shouldn't be able to with wholly mundane means? :lol

"I asked Dean, who knew a guy that used to work in the Laboratory in the West Coast, who then knew a guy who used to work at the local pub, that remembers seen the man come in to have a drink before jumping state."
"How did you do that?"
"Huh? All I did was ask, duh."

She probably does have a lot of fans she can leverage...
 
AzakaAmy is adorrifying but only really works if Vicky gets seduced by Taylor and she grows enough of a spine to fight for her love.
 
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