It has been a century since we last spied on them. Also the numbers are a guess. Remember the necron we though they were a lot less powerful than what we saw.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Doomed Wombat
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Those are necrons... they're a lot less easy to gather info on in general.
I'd much rather spend 1 divination action to learn about Valinor than to send an infiltration team to get corrupted and spill our plans in turn.
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We always have stealth ships poking into the nearby polities.
No, they are an estimation based on the findings of our stealth ships, big difference.
Nothing to do with Valinor and a completely different situation, we didn't even get a look at them they destroyed any ships that tried to. Those numbers were actually a guess.
Doomed Wombat
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I actually can't remember them doing that?
I thought we just couldn't see shit there.
Ok you know these whole thing started because I wanted to know what the inquisition has been doing and why we'd do not have a better idea of what Valinor is doing. If we had spy ships regularly spying I would not be having these argument.
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I remember Durin stating we couldn't see what they were doing cos our stealth ships aint so stealth to the 'crons
Doomed Wombat
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Yeah, but I thought that just meant we weren't brain dead enough to try and sneak past the crons to have a peek.
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We do have the advantage of DAOT tech and a Biologist that has been studying Avernus for a century. Which is like bio logical science nirvana.Or sacrificed, that'd take a strong soul...or maybe the burning counts as sacrifice.
Ok I probably didn't put that right, but still my point is that at the end of the day as a demon world of the abomination adheres to it's themes it's very different to a normal one.
Probably a lot of control, which make them good administrative centers compared to your average demon world.
Either oversight on my part or a carry over from Jane using the Sword of the Tempest for so long that she initially taught him with that in mind.
Take your pick.
Well they would be superior to true astartes, but psycic bs.
Stupid psycic bs (please don't stop being psycic bs I like that)
Do remember that at the height of the GC I can think of about 2 false astartes (Kor Pharonand Luther.) soooo, probably quite expensive even by our standards. Probably cheaper to just make normal astartes and more Last Hunters really, the main advantage as far as I can tell is that the false astartes don't seem to age like astartes (again I'm guessing here, because both Luther and Kor Pharon
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Pretty sure we tried, I'd have to ask Durin to be sure but I'm certain we did.
Why would our stealth ships stop spying? Seriously why?
Edit: We DO know what Valinor are doing, what are you even asking for? A datasheet update whenever you want one?
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Because it cost money keeping them out. Logistics are not the best since the emperor died. Also travel times are slow.
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Well they are managing to pick up the info sent from Janes operatives so cost and speed doesn't seem to be stopping them...
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Those are on the non chaos planets near us.
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Doomed Wombat
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Getting info on valinor by infiltrating it I believe.
What are you talking about it cost us 780 million thrones and several other cost involved. Even relic material. Yes it is only .1 but it still cost us relic material.
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Doomed Wombat
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I'm pretty sure most of the costs were in the infiltrators. The training, the equipment (especially the equipment those Light second communicators are not cheap), the numbers of people for at least over 100 worlds.
The stealth ship just needs to turn up take a package and leave. In the case of spying on Valinor they have to be warded (Hopefully inqusition is proactive with those psykers they take), scan and then get the hell out of dodge, but it shouldn't cost that much.
No those were the requiring cost per turn.
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Remember those communicators that can signal across part of a light second? The ones the agents are using? That's not a ship cost.
Edit: I'll just note your trying to claim that sending ships to the nearest polity is too expensive and time intensive compared to sending ships and teams to many more worlds much further away.
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Doomed Wombat
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ehhh that doesn't really change my point...
No really it doesn't we still need to replace agents who die, equipment that gets broken for what ever reason ect. It's why we're paying 0.1 RM despite the fact that hopefully the communicators they have should never get broken.
The actual cost of picking up the info should be peanuts compared to an action which already costs mostly peanuts to maintain compared to everything else.
I am talking about recurring cost per turn. The initial cost was very high. You know what let's drop it till Durin gives us the option.
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If Durin gives us the option.
And sure.
That's what I remember.
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Nah, they're too petty to do that. If Saint Lin dies of old age, in their minds he will "win". It will the final posthumous fuck you from the Emperor in the "you Chaos guys really can only defeat your opponents by waiting for them to die of natural causes, you galactic wimps" tone combined with the inevitable "you had one job" rant of Papa Abo.
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Nianque
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What they should have done is attacked right after the warp storm ended.