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An Extra Primarch

Should the Quest switch to a Narrative Base?

  • Yes, it will streamline things.

    Votes: 345 40.5%

  • No, I prefer the current system.

    Votes: 127 14.9%

  • Yes, but not until the Crusade begins/Prologue ends.

    Votes: 379 44.5%
  • Total voters
    851
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[X] Education: General: 40 Perk. Intriguing...
[X] Education: General: 60 Perk. I Know Lots of Things!
[X] Education: General: 120 Perk. Genius.
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs
[X] Education: Esoteric: 180 Perk. Jump the Gap.
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
[X] Tag: Perception: Objects
[X] Tag: Perception: Environment
 
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[X] [Perk] Education: Esoteric: 180 Perk. Jump the Gap.
[X] [Perk] Education: Esoteric: 200 Perk. Bridge the Gap.
[X] [Perk] Psyker: Esoteric: 80 Perk. Warp Messages.
[X] [Perk] Psyker: Esoteric: 100 Perk. Warp Chats.
[X] [Perk] Psyker: Willpower: 80 Perk. Will of Adamantium.
[X] [Perk] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
 
Neptune said:
[X] Plan Speak Well and Warp Chat

[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs
[X] Psyker: Esoteric: 80 Perk. Warp Messages
[X] Psyker: Esoteric: 100 Perk. Warp Chats
[X] Speech: Diplomacy: 60 Perk: White-tongued.
[X] Speech: Diplomacy: 80 Perk. I Still Believe.
[X] Tag Forging: Armor
[X] Tag Forging: Weapon

So the goal of this is to take both the speaking perks which allow us to better apply our karma score to our speech checks, and combine them with the psyker esotoric perks which allow long range talks which has obvious synergy with each other. We know after all that Magnus and the Emperor were speaking long before they met, and this can unlock that option either with them or just potentially others given the sheer distance that warp chat allows and how many planets are within sectors. There's further benefits in that the Ork Waagh is coming soon, so if there are psykers on other nearby planets in control of themselves we'll be able to contact them.

Level 30 perk and Necessity 120 for reasons others have already stated; and the same for forging: armor and weapon.
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Some issues with this, first off we were warned by the QM that contacting the Emperor could leave a negative impression on him since Serras would have tried to contact a psyker far more powerful than her leading her to think her as reckless. Second should be pointed out that human psykers are not well liked throughout the galaxy. It's pretty much different here since this is a civilized world but the whole burn the witch think is pretty prominent in other places. So not sure that contacting other psykers is going to be of much help.

Enthusiast#117 said:
"Taste my fury!" *fires warp-lightning*

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"You misse-"

"I know I missed!"


Ranged stat. Still important.
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...I am very, very sure that that is most definitely not how it is going to work considering that we have psyker skills in the hundreds.
 
Yeah, contacting the Emperor is a bad idea. In fact, contacting anything outside is bad.

OP should have a template of how to vote for Tag/Perk at the end of the selection so that people don't go all over the place with the format.
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Adhoc vote count started by Kadark on Sep 29, 2017 at 3:49 PM, finished with 53 posts and 21 votes.
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[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 20 Perk. Elementalist.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 40 Perk. Element User.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 60 Perk. Elemental Manipulation.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 80 Perk. Elemental Control.
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs.
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
 
[X] Worldslayer

Cytokinesis said:
I think the idea is to make our own psykers, so we can build up a network of basically astropaths.
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Not sure if that would be viable at the moment considering that at the moment we can only train around a hundred psykers at a time. Once some years have passed and we have more teacher and thus can train more psykers odds are that this would change.
 
We need them for the Psyker:100 Perk, but Warp Messages and Warp Chat still have the issue that we uh, don't have anyone to talk to with them. Given the upcoming WAAAAGH, I don't think we're going to be doing much outranging to make contacts.

We've already gone heavy into the producing Psyker tree, adding Delta and Beta to the options doesn't do much for us in the short-term, since we're unlikely to encounter any viable candidates. The 180 perk might still be worth getting immediately just for the massive bonuses admittedly.

Elemental...as before it doesn't really open up fields the way tech and bio did, but we need for the 100 perk, and useful in combat against the WAAAAGH. But again, that's still a way off, so not that urgent.

Really think diplomacy is probably where most of our perks should be going this time.
 
Kadark said:
We can already produce psykers. Going for Beta-level psyker is insane. Those will almost automatically fall to Chaos.
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We're already developing wards against Chaos and have personal abilities against them, and the former will only continue to be created and improved. And Serras is certainly not going to be stupid about it, she was trained by Witch Hunters. Besides, Worldslayer plan isn't going for Beta.
 
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 20 Perk. Elementalist.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 40 Perk. Element User.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 60 Perk. Elemental Manipulation.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 80 Perk. Elemental Control.
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs.
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
 
deadcrystal said:
We need them for the Psyker:100 Perk, but Warp Messages and Warp Chat still have the issue that we uh, don't have anyone to talk to with them.
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We don't. Producing psyker is Education : Esoteric and isn't part of the pysker tree.
Adhoc vote count started by Kadark on Sep 29, 2017 at 4:03 PM, finished with 63 posts and 24 votes.
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Cytokinesis said:
I think the idea is to make our own psykers, so we can build up a network of basically astropaths.
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Maybe we can make stuff like a hyperspace beacon that we can use to help pilots pilot small stretches of space in the warp. Another thing we could do is see I we can build something like a Jump gate from Babylon 5. Of course we would make sure to take measures to make it safe. Such as being able to shut the warp rift at any point and it being held in place via crystal reinforced gellar fields and crystals and runes in general and all ships and objects that come through it is funneled into a quarantine space that is prepped for easy kill zones that is constantly "scanned" with an energy field that is 100% anti Daemon(maybe null runes?).
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
I can think of one or two notable ones at least, maybe more given their nature. And that's without other regular psykers on distant worlds.
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To clarify, we aren't going to contact some random Psyker sectors away, because whilst we can contacting someone we don't know is stupid, and Serras isn't stupid. Aaaand every Psyker we do know lives on our planet and we could just as easily just pick up a phone :p

Kadark said:
We don't. Producing psyker is Education : Esoteric and isn't part of the pysker tree.
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Reread what you just quoted there :p

Never said we needed the producing Psyker perks for the Murphy perk, I said we needed WM and WC.
 
[X] Speech: Diplomacy: 60 Perk: White-tongued.
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs.
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Psyker: Manipulation: 100 Perk. Elemental Mastery. You have control of the elements strong enough to cloak a continent in day or night, cause earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, create tsunamis, alter the weather from pleasant to a hurricane and reverse all of the above. +250 to Combat, Tactics, and Medicine Checks. Must have Elemental Control.
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Could we in theory fight a sentient planet like Ferrus (or however it was called) with this?
 
Hmm speaking of a warp drive I wonder if it would be possible to make one that doesn't require a navigator due to entering and exiting the warp multiple times. Maybe see if we can use the crystals to stabilize space we leave behind during hose excessive number of warp entrances if that matters.
 
Red Bovine said:
Another factor was that Emps really screwed up as a parent. Even then a lot of the Primarchs turned out fine even if they did have some flaws, because hey human. If we do create our own Primarchs we should probably have only one or two at a time to avoid issues.
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Entropy Engineer said:
We would also treat them like our own kids and not superweapons all the time right? I'd rather our character be a good parent unlike the Emperor.
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I would think that he would've had greater success in being a parent if he had the time to be a parent - but at that time, all but Horus were parented (or become too anti-parenting for it to be accepted) by others. And at that point, he was in a great rush.
 
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All
[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs
[X] Psyker: Esoteric: 80 Perk. Warp Messages
[X] Psyker: Esoteric: 100 Perk. Warp Chats
[X] Education: Esoteric: 180 Perk. Jump the Gap
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 20 Perk. Elementalist
[X] Tag Forging: Armor
[X] Tag Forging: Weapon
 
It's going to be great to unlock advanced pysker perks. I can already see ''Psyker : Spirit : 200 Perk. My Will Is Eternal. At the moment of your death, allow you to throw your soul into the Wrap while scrambling the Chaos' Gods senses. You will be spawned from the Warp once again with temporary maluses to all your skills and attributes.''
 
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 20 Perk. Elementalist.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 40 Perk. Element User.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 60 Perk. Elemental Manipulation.
[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 80 Perk. Elemental Control.
[X] Assistant VIs
[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
[X] Tag Forging: Armor
[X] Tag Forging: Weapon
 
-[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 20 Perk. Elementalist.
-[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 40 Perk. Element User.
-[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 60 Perk. Elemental Manipulation.
-[X] Psyker: Manipulation: 80 Perk. Elemental Control.
-[X] Invention: Necessity: 120 Perk. Assistant VIs.
-[X] Level 30 Perk. Seen It All.
-[X] Tag Forging: Armor
-[X] Tag Forging: Weapon
 
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Adhoc vote count started by SouvikKundu on Sep 29, 2017 at 5:25 PM, finished with 74 posts and 28 votes.
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