What are the end goal(s) of this quest?

  • Retake the Iron Throne.

    Votes: 36 14.0%
  • Destroy the White Walkers.

    Votes: 44 17.1%
  • Rebuild fallen Valyria.

    Votes: 43 16.7%
  • Create a new empire, forget the past and forge your own destiny.

    Votes: 74 28.7%
  • Survive. Who needs a crown?

    Votes: 24 9.3%
  • Utter domination. You are the Dragon and will not rest until you rule over all!

    Votes: 29 11.2%
  • Become the wisest of the wise. A true Loremaster. Learn the magics of old and converse with Gods.

    Votes: 40 15.5%
  • Forbidden Power - Why speak with the Gods when you can BECOME one of them?

    Votes: 64 24.8%
  • Immortality - The problem with Aegon the Conqueror is that he died. You will not.

    Votes: 79 30.6%

  • Total voters
    258
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At this time I am using a counter system, listing the number of days votes take to be put into action. However for write-in votes you don't know how many days an action may take. For this we will use the old system of Major/Minor Decisions, and I will tell you how many days/weeks/months the plan will take. Remember that every month has 28 days, and that there are 13 months in the year with New Years as a special day alone outside the months. There is no leap year, as their calendar is not accurate to that degree.

Major decisions are any new endeavors. Finding new investments. Finding new allies (specify what type, where you're looking if possible, what you want from them, etc) finding new trainers, starting new training even if it is with people you already know... Anything new.

No mixing something that would qualify as a minor decision or free action into your major votes! If you have a question about your votes, ask me.

Talking with specific people about specific subjects. You can generally only talk with one person at a time with this. There are simple logical exceptions, Husband & Wife combos can be put together as one conversation, brother & sister, stuff like that. I'll clarify if a combo is unacceptable when I see the vote. This is also for continuing any long term action. Any major decision that you have already voted to start (not just mused about in-story) can be a minor action the next time around. Continuing training that you have already begun for example. Continuing a long-term investigation or plot. Stuff like this.

Making small talk with characters. You will not learn anything special really, but it gives you more insight into their backgrounds and history, can raise/lower their loyalty or other relationship points with you, etc. Raising/lowering and how much depends on rolls.

These can interrupt any current action(s) and will take precedence over the current plan. A way to change things on the fly as you discover new information or alternate ways to potentially enhance your plan, or change it completely if needed.

Remember for all votes if you take a guard or other individual with you, you will need to write-in which guard/person you take with you (just saying take a guard or ally will leave the decision of which one up to me) and also whether Daenerys tries to use any future knowledge on the decision as well if it is one of hers or she is present. (She still may decide to try and use her future knowledge without your consent if she thinks it necessary.) These details are sub-votes.

[] [Plan] X (Current Month, Short Term, Long Term, Immediate Actions, Purchases, etc.)
-[] Major Decisions: Character name here
--[] Major Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 1
--[] Major Decision 2
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
---[] Sub-conditions of Major Decision 2
-[] Minor Decisions: Character name here
--[] Minor Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
---[] Sub-conditions of Minor Decision 1
--[] Minor Decision 2
-[] Free Actions: Character name here
--[] Free Action 1
---[] Sub-conditions
--[] Free Action 2
---[] Sub-conditions

You get the jist of this.

However, under the plan vote, you will then put a "Priority" Vote.

[] Aegon Priority: 1. Major Decision 1, 2. Free Action 2, 3. Minor Decision 1, 4. Major Decision 2, etc.
[] Daenerys Priority: 1. Free Action 2, 2. Major Decision 3, 3. Minor Decision 1, etc.

This way we can vote on the general plan, then I can separate the order of events in said plan.

Don't put V1, V2, or any other such revision information into your plan. Just leave it like I have it. Nothing extra. The tally system will update to your newest post. No need to make version markers. It just makes things harder for me.

If an action in a plan is not one for a specific character, more a general idea of what needs to be done, it will still need to go into the priority matrix.

At the end of all your votes, put your reasons explaining your vote choice. As I've said before, a plan with reasons will get more weight than one without. Because reasons matter. I care about reasons more than numbers. I need reasons to help build the characters. Get used to putting reasons into your plans, as eventually reasons will become a requirement rather than a suggestion. This post will change when that occurs.

[] [Plan] X

You may (but are not required to) put additional reasons to agree with that plan beneath your vote if there are reasons for it that the original vote creator didn't put in that you thought of. The more/better the reasoning inside explaining a vote, the greater the chance it will be added into the story.

Votes are typically closed after either 12 or 24 hours unless real life interferes. Ties will be either decided by me, or by whoever is in the forum or the Discord that has not voted already at the time. I will @ whoever is currently in the forum or Discord that I choose to be the tiebreaker.

Plans have specific timelines. Immediate Actions are obviously immediate. Current Month is similarly self-explanatory. Short Term is something that can conceivably be done within 1-3 months, and Long Term is 3-6 months.
 
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[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
-[X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true.

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

[X] Matalarr for night shift.
 
[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true

[X] Matalarr for night shift.
 
@Lunasmeow

What sort of timeframe do these votes have? Are we deciding to vote for a month's worth of work? It seemed to me that it was an immediate decision to start doing stuff, rather than an itinerary
 
[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true

[X] Matalarr for night shift.

Edit: I claim ignorance on my part, forgive me, Deus.
 
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@Lunasmeow

What sort of timeframe do these votes have? Are we deciding to vote for a month's worth of work? It seemed to me that it was an immediate decision to start doing stuff, rather than an itinerary

If you notice, this chaper's date was for a week, not just a day. The vote also asked what you are doing for the fourth week. This is the beginning of weekly votes. Eventually as your plans get grander it will become monthly, etc.

@Lunasmeow how skilled are we currently as a swordsman

Character Sheet has this type of info. Threadmarked under informational.
Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Aug 21, 2017 at 5:21 PM, finished with 24 posts and 13 votes.
 
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[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true

[X] Matalarr for night shift.

[X] Carefully study the book you stole form that fat dude.

Other than the night shift decision, that leaves you with three votes, not four.

You need to drop down one, or be discounted for the segment. Cheating is not acceptable. I do pay attention to these things.
 
[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

Our time is worth more than 10 CW.

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use one sword. That way should something happen you can find another trainer easily.

Dual wielding swords is a rare skill for a reason and I don't believe we currently have the DEX to pull it off. (I don't know if that matters, it just seems to me that dual wielding would require a high level of DEX to be good)

[X] Boromun for night shift.

He seems to be more trustworthy.

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

Because knowledge is power.
 
So, now that it has happened once, I am going to mention cheating. Starting from this post, anoyone who is caught rolling more than they should, voting more than they should etc... will be punished. What that punishment may be will be determined entirely by my arbitrary whim.

It may be a direct punishment where you don't get your votes counted for the session. It may be indirect where your vote is counted, but you auto crit fail one of the rolls for your choice.

Cheat at your own risk. And that of your characters. That is all.
 
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Er, yes I suppose so. Would our DEX attribute affect our ability to learn how to use two swords effectively?
Not learning, no. Actually using, yes. However as I said before, you increase stats like skills, just as in real life. By using them. Training in skills and stats you are bad at will increase them.

Edit: Basically I'm saying that if you are training in a Dex based skill, you are obviously using and training your Dex at the same time. So you'd be increasing two things at once.

However, skills - unlike stats - can only be trained as high as the trainer themselves is in a given skill.
Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Aug 21, 2017 at 7:13 PM, finished with 30 posts and 14 votes.
 
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[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW

[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.

[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true.

[X] Matalarr for night shift.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm gonna say we shouldn't marry Dany. A marriage alliance is a pretty powerful card to play if we want to gain support of any noble family. Throwing away possibly our only two chances for it (depending on what happens with Viserys) would be a waste, and no one is Westeros is likely to go for polyamory, historical precedent or not.
 
[X] Get the town criers to help with recruitment of farmers - 10 CW
[X] Contact the Iron Bank in order to request their help in acquiring tutors for Daenerys and yourself. If you wish to truly rule you will need to make sure that you are educated and trained in the skills of a Sovereign.
[X] Start training with a blade with Matalarr
- [X] Use two swords. The skill is rare, and he is a veritable master of the art if the tales are true.
[X] Boromun for night shift.

two sword traning could help us in case of broken right and help us mastering small blade
 
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Might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm gonna say we shouldn't marry Dany. A marriage alliance is a pretty powerful card to play if we want to gain support of any noble family. Throwing away possibly our only two chances for it (depending on what happens with Viserys) would be a waste, and no one is Westeros is likely to go for polyamory, historical precedent or not.
It has been confirmed that Viserys will return, however your point is still a valid one, having 3 chances rather than 2. As for the marriage thing - it will be mostly the church that has issues with it, so as long as you get control of Westeros before the Faith Militant are re-created you should be fine.

Of course, it might be better to wait to take a second wife (if you do, regardless of whether you marry Dany or not) until after you are King... unless your second wife is one you take to get more allies into your army. Like marrying into, I don't know, Dorne or something.
 
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Might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm gonna say we shouldn't marry Dany. A marriage alliance is a pretty powerful card to play if we want to gain support of any noble family. Throwing away possibly our only two chances for it (depending on what happens with Viserys) would be a waste, and no one is Westeros is likely to go for polyamory, historical precedent or not.
Well that's fine with me because I don't want the Iron Throne.

Aegon: "Have we learned nothing from our history? The Iron Throne lasted 280+ years and collapsed under the weight of it's own decadence. Anything given to us by our wife's family can be taken away. Rather than go back down the old path that led to hundreds of petty wars and will inevitably end with another corrupt scion of our House squandering everything, I would have us return to the roots of our ancestors. A system of meritocracy and appointed Governors rather than the constant petty trading of marriage alliances with this noble House and that noble House. Aegon the Conqueror was correct; one king means peace. He however didn't go far enough; one authority means peace. All citizens are equal under the crown."
 
Well that's fine with me because I don't want the Iron Throne.

Aegon: "Have we learned nothing from our history? The Iron Throne lasted 280+ years and collapsed under the weight of it's own decadence. Anything given to us by our wife's family can be taken away. Rather than go back down the old path that led to hundreds of petty wars and will inevitably end with another corrupt scion of our House squandering everything, I would have us return to the roots of our ancestors. A system of meritocracy and appointed Governors rather than the constant petty trading of marriage alliances with this noble House and that noble House. Aegon the Conqueror was correct; one king means peace. He however didn't go far enough; one authority means peace. All citizens are equal under the crown."
You know why that didn't happen? Making there be one king with other Lords under him was fine. It wasn't a drastic change to their culture. Who was king changed, but the culture remained the same. If you try to change their entire culture... that is what sparks rebellions. It can be done though. *Rubs hands together eagerly.*
 
You know why that didn't happen? Making there be one king with other Lords under him was fine. It wasn't a drastic change to their culture. Who was king changed, but the culture remained the same. If you try to change their entire culture... that is what sparks rebellions. It can be done though. *Rubs hands together eagerly.*
That's why I don't want to return to Westeros, it's culture is too set.

I WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW WITHOUT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST!

LET RAYS OF JUSTICE ILLUMINATE MY PATH!
 
That's why I don't want to return to Westeros, it's culture is too set.

I WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW WITHOUT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST!

LET RAYS OF JUSTICE ILLUMINATE MY PATH!
You all certainly have that opportunity. It just takes a while to get that thought to Aegon IC. But suffice to say that once you have dragons, there will DEFINITELY be people who approach you about creating a new empire of some kind rather than simply worrying about the "barbaric" Seven Kingdoms...
 
Well I certainly don't want meritocracy. Such things will give nobles the wrong idea. Plus it will lead to instability because everyone would want to be the one who wears the crown.

Such things only work when the others are willing to let the best person for the job, get the job, which is not gonna happen in westeros.

A three hundred year reign is nothing to sneeze at, especially when they didn't even have dragons to enforce their will for a good part of the period.
 
Well I certainly don't want meritocracy. Such things will give nobles the wrong idea. Plus it will lead to instability because everyone would want to be the one who wears the crown.

Now that someone is pointing out the other side I'll comment.

Such things only work when the others are willing to let the best person for the job, get the job, which is not gonna happen in westeros.

A three hundred year reign is nothing to sneeze at, especially when they didn't even have dragons to enforce their will for a good part of the period.
Meritocracy would have other problems. You can't easily just jump from medieval to modern style standards. After all, in a medieval society, who is going to have the greatest ability? The educated. Who are the educated??? The nobles. You can't start a meritocracy until you have public schooling. And in a medieval society, teachers don't work for cheap. You'll have to convince these tutors, who are used to making TONS of money, to work for what the taxes can afford instead? And you're going to have to convince these families who are used to having their children help them work and make money to suddenly take a loss in income because their children are too busy going to school. AND you're going to have classrooms with no teachers, because tutors are scarce. Not enough demand before, so not enough people worked for the job. Good luck.

It's not just as simple as "I'm in charge now, meritocracy will change everything!"

Societies don't work that way. There is a reason that it takes years (read: generations) for culture to slowly adapt. The only time it doesn't, is when a society is utterly destroyed. And that only results in a horrendous third world society.

But hey, you guys can try... Maybe you'll change fate.

I've seen harder rolls pass. That's one of the good things with d&d. Impossible things can succeed all by the whims of the die. So if you really want to try, best get to planning how to minimize all these problems.

Edit: Don't take me mentioning the problems as me saying it won't happen. Again, plans and rolls can make anything possible. I've done harder things myself in d&d due to lucky die rolls. I'm just saying that you need to approach it with a realistic plan.
 
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I get off work in 35 minutes. It takes about another 20 for me to get home. Vote closes when I get home.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Lunasmeow on Aug 22, 2017 at 4:28 AM, finished with 42 posts and 16 votes.
 
I must say, I'm surprised that no one wrote in "Buy Dany the puppy." I thought that line would get at least one animal lover to start a campaign for the Royal Hound to be bought and trained.
 
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