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I mean we are (trying to) studying the Old Ones defence stations. So maybe in a few years the Ad Mech would be slightly more inclined to study Xenotech that is more advanced than Imperial tech.
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I mean we are (trying to) studying the Old Ones defence stations. So maybe in a few years the Ad Mech would be slightly more inclined to study Xenotech that is more advanced than Imperial tech.
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We could always just keep samples for later use.
We're trying to discover information about them, but that's not the same as studying them to reverse engineer them and make tech from them.
That too, but just saying that trading it to xenos might be an option.
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True, but seeing how outclassed they are when compared to Xenotech may lead to some more pragmatic approaches by the Ad Mech in future.
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I'm pretty sure that if we tried to study them we'd probably just end up BSOD Tranth.
We are talking about the ad mech here... they would find some way to justify sticking their heads in the sand and/or use this as a reason to be even more conservative because that is the true way to the Machine God.
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The ones on Vanaheim probably, but I have hope the ones on Avernus itself are even more radicalised.
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1. Do we know what Archmagos Prime Paladis's reaction to the stations was?
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Could we ask the Sirens if they know anything about the Defense Stations?
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They haven't even gotten out of the middle ages tech wise, they almost certainly wouldn't know.
I believe we also asked @Durin and he said no as well.
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Eh, they could have oral records of past activations.
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How these things aren't in low orbit and while I could imagine that they may put on a light show there are a million and one other explanations for it (great one, meteor storm ect.).
There's also the fact that they only appear for true threats to the planet (exterminatus) and since Avernus seems to have been quite since the end of the War in Heaven and the stations weren't activated in the Dark Age (as far as we know) the last potential activation's were millions of years ago.
Literally.
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Depends.
The Necrontyr certainly did, but the necrons had the super tech and the C'tan backing them up.
Whole C'Tan at that, the ones we see now are such pale imitations of the true things. Thank the Emperor theres only two whole ones left. That said if the Outsider ever breaks loose we best hope that the Eldar have enough WiH/Pre Fall super weapons to deal with it.
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Well the Eldar had the Black Stone Fortresses which were their anti C'tan weapons apparently created especially to deal with him, but Chaos has those and since the Dragon is still whole chances are they didn't work on him, so our best bet is necrons especially Szarekh as he was the one who created (or at least ordered the creation of) the Weapons that shattered the C'tan and the Tesseract maze that binds the shards.
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As big of a Necron fan boy that I am I'd still vastly prefer the Eldar to handle it just so we can be sure. C'Tan are much more vulnerable to warp based attacks, the only order faction that may still have such weapons with sufficient power is the Eldar.
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Yeaaaah, the problem is that the Eldar tried.
Vaul's talismans (Blackstone fortresses) were apparently made to deal with him specifically and they're the most powerful weapons of the Eldar that I can think of, short of incarnating Khaine or Yneed.
The problem with the Dragon is that we have NO idea how he ended up in Sol.
Why did the Necrons manage to shatter all, but him and the exiled, what makes him so strong that the Deceiver was so terrified of him that when he suggested cannibalism he stayed right the **** away from the Dragon, what were the Dragon's warriors, how did the emperor manage to capture the Dragon, and if he captured him why not kill him?
Honestly the only thing I can think of at this point that stands a chance against the Dragon are Avernus's Great Ones, but I don't have high hopes.
For now the Dragon is trapped within Sol, which is probably the centre of the Abomination's domain and if the two are waging an eternal war for control there I'll be happy.
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