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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy
- Location
- Right Where I Am
You know what? At the risk of losing the vote, I will.
I am taking this
[X] My bag of tricks is large enough than we'll be here long past the time we have if I started to list them all, and the lady does have to have some secrets. On the most basic of levels, I am far tougher than a human can ever dream to be, immune to many things, cold being only one of them. I am faster, stronger, better than a mortal, and I know how to handle this sword better than any mortal ever could. It is capable of harming even those that would normally think themselves immortal. A vast array of magical abilities is at my command, useable in many situations as you have seen when I warmed you up. And if things get really tough? Remember that the armored giant of brass and stone, and possibly legions of spectral cyborg lizardmen are on your side.
-[X] "And if sci-fi is more to your liking, here, take this electrolaser and use it well"
-[X] You point at the direction your crown gave you "The nearest intelligent alien life is 100 lightyears in that direction. They are unlikely to be relevant right now"
What do you know, I was right.
Deserve has nothing to do with it, we're not dividing up loot or something. This is social combat and information can be a type of ammunition. I don't like sharing unnecessary details, but the evaluation being made there is the risk posed by sharing versus the gains made by doing so.
I didn't suggest sharing to be generous, most of the time the very last thing on the list of reasons to provide information is how it helps the other person if it's even on the list at all. The goal is to utilize a resource to extract value. To be clear; that's not always how things have to go because you shouldn't treat social fights with friends the same as with outsiders, but he isn't one of those yet.
In this case the purpose of what I suggested was to establish a better relationship to increase our ability to work with him. To learn about who he is, what he intends, and if he might be a viable ally.
Things worked out in the end, but I think we missed an opening here. It's like a fight where we know the enemy has hit their essence spend cap for the turn but we still have the opportunity to take another action. That was the ideal time to make something stick.
The current vote is where things get dicey, because we don't have a great relationship with him yet or any idea who he was working for, but need to balance security against tactical requirements and the impression we leave with him.
@Yog has a good plan, but I want to write my own stunt for this one.
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks
-[X] Give general details on being a skilled melee combatant with supernatural durability, situational exotic abilities like tool summoning/field crafting, and good information gathering skills. Do not get into details about things like essence pool size, particulars of individual charm weaknesses, or critical secrets like the crown.
-[X] [Stunt]: You point at the direction your crown gave you "The nearest intelligent alien life is 100 lightyears in that direction. They are unlikely to be relevant right now"
—[X] Meeting his eyes, something lethally serious slipped into her voice. "The implications of what we are can take time to sink in, but we are Exalted. Each of us bears a weapon meant to allow mortals to do the impossible, and what you have touched on so far is just the beginning".
—[X] "On the tactical level, I am a melee specialist and information with a variety of supporting abilities and resources to support both roles." Gesturing with Usum Molly casually scored her first name into the ice in a single stroke.
—[X] "I'm unsure what you've seen of the real world, but I do not mean the 'melee' of some fledgling vampire excited about how they can shrug off a bit of small arms fire. I've parried cannons and cut through things stronger than any mundane steel. I've matched flaming brass against tooth, claw, and spell of things older than the language we're speaking right now."
—[X] "Many of my strategic options are unlikely to be relevant unless we want to bring an army of cybernetic dragon men into this. I do however, have a variety of other tools if we need them".
Focusing on the melee because the guy seemed dismissive of using a sword.
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks
-[X] Give general details on being a skilled melee combatant with supernatural durability, situational exotic abilities like tool summoning/field crafting, and good information gathering skills. Do not get into details about things like essence pool size, particulars of individual charm weaknesses, or critical secrets like the crown.
-[X] [Stunt]: You point at the direction your crown gave you "The nearest intelligent alien life is 100 lightyears in that direction. They are unlikely to be relevant right now"
—[X] Meeting his eyes, something lethally serious slipped into her voice. "The implications of what we are can take time to sink in, but we are Exalted. Each of us bears a weapon meant to allow mortals to do the impossible, and what you have touched on so far is just the beginning".
—[X] "On the tactical level, I am a melee specialist and information with a variety of supporting abilities and resources to support both roles." Gesturing with Usum Molly casually scored her first name into the ice in a single stroke.
—[X] "I'm unsure what you've seen of the real world, but I do not mean the 'melee' of some fledgling vampire excited about how they can shrug off a bit of small arms fire. I've parried cannons and cut through things stronger than any mundane steel. I've matched flaming brass against tooth, claw, and spell of things older than the language we're speaking right now."
—[X] "Many of my strategic options are unlikely to be relevant unless we want to bring an army of cybernetic dragon men into this. I do however, have a variety of other tools if we need them".
Focusing on the melee because the guy seemed dismissive of using a sword.
- Location
- Germany
I'm not quite happy with that stunt by the way.
Aren't we kinda giving away a very unusual potential for info-gathering?
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks
BoredMan
Everyone gets a tariff now. Even the penguins. wtf
Why didn't you ask DragonParadox lol.
You mean by mentioning aliens or by not asking for the same information in kind?m
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Oh, you probably mean by sharing that information in the first place. That's a good point.
I'd say it's reasonably low risk because it's almost impossible to prove we were correct and not just joking or how precisely we learned that information. Still, glib comments based on the assumption nobody will be able to connect the dots have hurt us in the past.
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- Location
- Germany
By saying exactly where the nearest aliens are.
It's weird trivia to tell with such confidence.
Right now he might think it's something generally known, but sooner or later he'll find out that nothing in the supernatural scene has real knowledge of aliens, so then he or other can piece together that we have a weird, but obviously powerful and long-reaching Divination ability.
Or he thinks it's a joke and that's that.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
I retooled Bronzetongue's stunt a little, changed real world to supernatural world and got rid of the aliens bit. Edit: Also clarified "information" to "information gatherer"
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks minus aliens
-[X] Give general details on being a skilled melee combatant with supernatural durability, situational exotic abilities like tool summoning/field crafting, and good information gathering skills. Do not get into details about things like essence pool size, particulars of individual charm weaknesses, or critical secrets like the crown.
—[X] [Stunt:] Meeting his eyes, something lethally serious slipped into her voice. "The implications of what we are can take time to sink in, but we are Exalted. Our power is meant to allow mortals to do the impossible, and what you have touched on so far is just the beginning".
—[X] "On the tactical level, I am a melee specialist and information gatherer with a variety of supporting abilities and resources to support both roles." Gesturing with Usum Molly casually scored her first name into the ice in a single stroke.
—[X] "I'm unsure what you've seen of the supernatural world, but I do not mean the 'melee' of some fledgling vampire excited about how they can shrug off a bit of small arms fire. I've parried cannons and cut through things stronger than any mundane steel. I've matched flaming brass against tooth, claw, and spell of things older than the language we're speaking right now."
—[X] "Many of my strategic options are unlikely to be relevant unless we want to bring an army of cybernetic dragon men into this. I do however, have a variety of other tools if we need them".
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks minus aliens
-[X] Give general details on being a skilled melee combatant with supernatural durability, situational exotic abilities like tool summoning/field crafting, and good information gathering skills. Do not get into details about things like essence pool size, particulars of individual charm weaknesses, or critical secrets like the crown.
—[X] [Stunt:] Meeting his eyes, something lethally serious slipped into her voice. "The implications of what we are can take time to sink in, but we are Exalted. Our power is meant to allow mortals to do the impossible, and what you have touched on so far is just the beginning".
—[X] "On the tactical level, I am a melee specialist and information gatherer with a variety of supporting abilities and resources to support both roles." Gesturing with Usum Molly casually scored her first name into the ice in a single stroke.
—[X] "I'm unsure what you've seen of the supernatural world, but I do not mean the 'melee' of some fledgling vampire excited about how they can shrug off a bit of small arms fire. I've parried cannons and cut through things stronger than any mundane steel. I've matched flaming brass against tooth, claw, and spell of things older than the language we're speaking right now."
—[X] "Many of my strategic options are unlikely to be relevant unless we want to bring an army of cybernetic dragon men into this. I do however, have a variety of other tools if we need them".
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- Location
- Maryland
[X] Plan Swimming With Sharks minus aliens
The one problem I have with swimming with sharks is the description of exaltation as a weapon we've never described it that way in story we've never decided to say it like that either when we're explaining it to other people.
We've met families of people with exaltation it provides such a wide range of skills and such a natural suite of abilities that it's really difficult to describe it as a weapon unless you know where it came from or why it was made. It has the same problem as exalted host. Even the term to describe the exalted princes of the Earth is not particularly a term to describe a weapon.
Then there's the fact it's literally a connection to Greater entities that can be used anyway the holder wants which makes it difficult to call it a weapon more than you would call a hammer or I guess an ink brush or a grill a weapon.
It just feels like we have no reason in character to describe this thing that we've described as a tool of essentially spiritual uplifting before a weapon if that makes sense.
Edit: how we described it literally earlier today.
We've met families of people with exaltation it provides such a wide range of skills and such a natural suite of abilities that it's really difficult to describe it as a weapon unless you know where it came from or why it was made. It has the same problem as exalted host. Even the term to describe the exalted princes of the Earth is not particularly a term to describe a weapon.
Then there's the fact it's literally a connection to Greater entities that can be used anyway the holder wants which makes it difficult to call it a weapon more than you would call a hammer or I guess an ink brush or a grill a weapon.
It just feels like we have no reason in character to describe this thing that we've described as a tool of essentially spiritual uplifting before a weapon if that makes sense.
Edit: how we described it literally earlier today.
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BoredMan
Everyone gets a tariff now. Even the penguins. wtf
I mean this feels more like a nitpick than anything else but a good fraction of our abilities are clearly for combat and considering what we use our abilities for bigger picture wise and how many corpses we make with what the Exaltation has given us, I could see Molly viewing it as a mix of both.
Votes are pretty split and the conversation is ongoing so how about we see what Michael's been doing?
Sorry, I was busy and couldn't reply. I really like this - the only thing I think it's missing is mention of shintai, which is important so he doesn't attack us if we have to use it.
BoredMan
Everyone gets a tariff now. Even the penguins. wtf
- Location
- Earth
Just a little joking around.
It's not so much a nitpick as I genuinely just don't think there's any reason for Molly to believe that. Even with our own violent abilities we have a complete set of non-violent ability excellencies. Multiple charms that make other beings into other things, summoning charms, General use telekinesis, a charm that just makes tools for us to help us make things, the ability to unfold a world into existence. What kind of weapon needs that?
Unless you know where exaltation come from that makes no sense for a weapon to possess a significant portion of the abilities exaltations do possess. The General Omni applicable charms like excellencies, DPE, ATB, CCC, BSM and and so many more it makes just considerably more sense to call a spiritual framework otherwise it doesn't make any sense.
Of course out of character the idea of all of those abilities omni applicable or general spiritual framework or not is the idea that a being that is complete and whole and capable of using Supernatural strength and skill in all facets is the best weapon but you can't really come to that conclusion from a mortal perspective based on what we know weapons to be which is a subset of tools created specifically to kill other things.
A gun no matter how you retool it is still primarily a tool to meant to kill that propels bits of metal at Hypersonic speeds to eviscerate flesh. It has one true use though it's Parts can be repurposed for something else it's not going to be anything other than what it is. Same for the sword you can turn a sword into a plowshare but at that point it's not a sword or a weapon anymore. On and on for pretty much every weapon.
Unless you know where exaltation come from that makes no sense for a weapon to possess a significant portion of the abilities exaltations do possess. The General Omni applicable charms like excellencies, DPE, ATB, CCC, BSM and and so many more it makes just considerably more sense to call a spiritual framework otherwise it doesn't make any sense.
Of course out of character the idea of all of those abilities omni applicable or general spiritual framework or not is the idea that a being that is complete and whole and capable of using Supernatural strength and skill in all facets is the best weapon but you can't really come to that conclusion from a mortal perspective based on what we know weapons to be which is a subset of tools created specifically to kill other things.
A gun no matter how you retool it is still primarily a tool to meant to kill that propels bits of metal at Hypersonic speeds to eviscerate flesh. It has one true use though it's Parts can be repurposed for something else it's not going to be anything other than what it is. Same for the sword you can turn a sword into a plowshare but at that point it's not a sword or a weapon anymore. On and on for pretty much every weapon.
In a peaceful world an exalted could see no combat from their first day to their last and be no less effective at everything and anything they do which really makes it difficult to call exaltation a weapon.
[X] OctarineShrike
[X] Yog
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OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
I retooled my bit to change it from framing it as a weapon into something more abstract.