She wasn't your sister no matter what anyone said
Rhaenyra those are babies 😂 we're gonna need to slowly acclimate her to them like a cat to a new kind of wet food.

we should do dragonriding and chilling with Syrax next turn, Rhaenyra deserves some time away from it all.

The guard with him was a woman of about your fathers age and a bronze skin that hinted of the lands of eastern Essos. She gripped her spear tighter as the three of you entered, though while she inclined her head respectfully to you and Alicent, she merely glared at Ser Tarly. Something he did in turn and you were not sure which of the two had started first.
westerosi's funniest buddy-cop due incoming. i hope she sticks around as a sworn shield if we marry Quoren.
the picture of both of them seething in the background for the exact same reason in whatever scene they are is hilarious.

Besides you, Ser Tarly made one of those very quiet noises that told you he was probably committing a snide comment to memory for later when he was in the tower among only fellow kingsguard members.
he is SUCH a hater, it's as funny as it is concerning.

He hummed briefly while weighing his words. "I always felt it important for a lord to remember that there is more to life than politics and trade. If we don't chase a dream now and then, what is the point of it all? But I believe you of all people understand that better than most."
i was already rooting for Qoren, but this locked him in for me. despite their different talents and life experiences, they're both dreamers with big ambitions.

"Are you worried that a marriage would complicate matters between you and your dear handmaiden?" He asked carefully. There was no easy smiles this time, but neither was there the edge of scorn that words made you fear for.
damn he clocked us. welp, ripping off a bandaid so to speak.

@Teen Spirit would doing a conversation with Tarly and fighting a Dornish noble in the same turn have any synergy that can help us, or even just calm him down a bit?

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Well, our Rhaenyra doesn't know about any of this anyway
Oh agreed was just spitballing. Most Dance era stuff I have read is book based so its a... "concern" shall we say, especially as a fair amount of it is SI of some form
Oh huh, nice idea! I hope we'll be able to make friends, or at least friendly acquaintances, with some Dornish women.
I imagine the make up of our court and ladies will actually be a major political concern and something to negotiate as part of our marriage. If the goal is to bring Dorne truly into the Iron Throne's domain with this marriage, we will need to grant court positions to prominent Dornish ladies as part of sweetening the deal. But we also need to avoid overly favouring them - an issue that in canon is part of what leads to the Blackfyre Rebellion. Its a fine line to tread.

But yes, I think it would do us a lot of good if we could make a friend out of a Dornish woman and add her to our court. Perhaps, and this is really really speculating here we could arrange a marriage between Gwayne and a landed Dornish woman who is invited to court. Otto won't inherit any lands really, and giving his son a landed wife (even if the children would take her name) would actually be quite a nice favour to him.

...it would be actually hilarious (if upsetting) if the quest ended because of a bad labor roll :V

Right? Like I do not want it, but imagine if it happened :lol2:
 
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Qoren has never been my top choice, but I don't think the Harwin Strong match is something that will win out amongst this crowd and Qoren is the much more ambitious and probably messier variant of Harwin. As a staunch anti-Laenor match I'm more enticed by the never happening Tyland idea even though its horrible.

The Qoren match is going to be messy. It will involve the most negotiation on matters of state and the like and will have the most negative reaction from our subjects and these are major concerns. However we do have time, and we may be able to remedy some, and if he is too ambitious in negotiation we do have the ability to select elsewhere, which I suspect at this point would be Gwayne amongst our electorate.
 
You know for all I'm voting to turn him down I am slowly coming round to voting yes. Feels a betrayal of my boy Laenor. But god he fucking ace'd his dice roll against the audience...
 
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I think marriage with Qoren is a good choice only if Dorne joins the Seven Kingdoms, if Dorne remains independent I will prefer Laenor
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As the self proclaimed number one Daemon hater, that prospect sounds juicy, it would also be deeply ironic and please my hate filled heart if Daemon, in attempting to conquer Dorne to gain glory, drove Dorne into our arms and gave US the glory of bringing them into the fold.

To add to this- conflict with Daemon has been baked in since character creation. if we didn't want to tangle with Uncle Creeper/Caraxes, we shouldn't have gone with Buff Rhaenyra

(I'm glad we went with Buff Rhaenyra)

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You know, the Tyland Lannister match idea from Johanna was out of left field, and it would have been VERY weird to read abaout.

Imagine Rhaenyra marrying a guy she imprisoned and brutaly tortured in another timeline out of maniacal paranoia!
 
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You know, the Tyland Lannister match idea from Johanna was out of left field, and it would have been VERY weird to read abaout.

Imagine Rhaenyra marrying a guy she imprisoned and brutaly tortured in another timeline out of maniacal paranoia!
Look if he didn't want to be maimed beyond all reason, he should have told her where the money was.

In the immortal words of Robyn Rihanna Fenty:

"Bitch better have my money."
 
I should note that Johanna was literally just saying what she would do if she were Rhaenyra, Tyland was not a serious option. It's an option, but like, most unmarried men are an option.
 
...Fuck. I like him already, even if Laenor is objectively the better choice for politics.

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I want the Live Tarly Reaction.
 
westerosi's funniest buddy-cop due incoming. i hope she sticks around as a sworn shield if we marry Quoren.
the picture of both of them seething in the background for the exact same reason in whatever scene they are is hilarious.
Bonus: enemies to lovers.

despite their different talents and life experiences, they're both dreamers with big ambitions.
Hmm? We picked Diligent over Ambitious.
 
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Tarly: All I ask for my service is that you bring Dorne into the fold.
Rhaenyra: I'm going to marry Qoren.
Tarly: No! Not like that!


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