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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Very true. To be fair, Harry is a Starborn, which may provide at least some protection, as Neverborn stuff, and Oblivion is Outside. Not sure if that is a consideration here.
We should select Molly if we think we need 10+ successes, and Harry if we think we need 5+ successes only. In principle, mortal scale 5+ successes on a singular roll is a legendary success. I am unsure. Exaltations shouldn't be subtle. Not all abyssals should have bought perfect stealth on chargen, I think. We may get something at least.
Michael is busy with one of the abyssals, I am 99.999% sure. And he was provided emergency supernatural transportation, I think. Heavens are scrambling.
Sadly not. He can donate motes to us, but not wise-versa, and we don't have a splendor prepared for him to replenish motes. I am working on designing something.
My worry is not that he gets corrupted. Its just, he probably has more eyes on him than anyone else on his powerlevel. And through his nature, a lot of these eyes are, or will be, in service of outside. Things happen around harry. Its not his fault, but his existence is very much a weapon that cuts both ways. Having him in the field tackling evil has worked out best so far, and i dont think right now is the best moment to change that.
It objectively the right move through. So im still voting for it. It just feels like a mistake. A bit like we are the white council, telling harry not to get too close and do ritual work far away from the problem and,here, take these evil but useful artifacts , we are going zo solve that no problem, we are the authority on this stuff-
You know whatthe next chapter would be about.
Its still the correct move. Especially in character. But i feel like we are telling everyone to split the party.
Its a vibe.
It objectively the right move through. So im still voting for it. It just feels like a mistake. A bit like we are the white council, telling harry not to get too close and do ritual work far away from the problem and,here, take these evil but useful artifacts , we are going zo solve that no problem, we are the authority on this stuff-
You know whatthe next chapter would be about.
Its still the correct move. Especially in character. But i feel like we are telling everyone to split the party.
Its a vibe.
I know you probably didn't mean anything about this but this is so indicative I'm so many things that it's hard to not take it a certain way. We knew we were in Dresden Files the setting we knew we were interacting with exalted the setting. Both settings places where magic of the Learned type not just inherent charms but magic in the form of sorcery and well Magic are definitively and definingly important in both and I can never get anyone to vote any type of magic.
Geomancy which is what the Jades were going to use to try and capture our Exaltation is Mana Manipulation. Ancient sorcery has been commented on repeatedly by Dragon Paradox to be the thing that's necessary to understand exaltation.
Heck I'm half expecting for this next XP spend to come up and us to not get a single lick of any magic that might help contain these motherfuckers at all. No alchemy that might help us create terrestrial Jade with which to imprison these things with, no mana manipulation by which to either help us Corral them or otherwise contain them, no ancient sorcery spells which might grant us greater Insight nothing.
Though this is a major case of sour grapes on my part. It's just so many votes wanting to get ancient sorcery or regular sorcery and just dead silence.
Demonreach is holding exalted akuma in the max security wing, and I think it was implied / said that it is doing so by slowing down time so less than a combat turn has passed for them since their imprisonment. And it can only do so because they are akuma. I don't think it can hold a shard itself. It's not Jade Prison.
Since I got confirmation about the math I did - Dresden right now is (while he has essence) more powerful than a theoretical arete 10 pure wizard, i.e. theoretical peak human magic user. Now, those guys have their own tricks, obviously, so actually the peak is a lot higher, but Dresden pre-enlightenment, and Dresden post-enlightenment are two entirely differently scaled people.
I wonder if he is waiting to remake his equipment until the Forge goes up. Because Dresden actually does prep and has a lot of enhanced gear.
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It's easier to hold a shard than it is to hold an Exalt. Take Molly for instance, she has a bunch of charms that would make it easy to escape. Heck, CCC as a Signature Charm would bust Demonreach open easily.
There's a reason the Jade Prison was for the Exaltations and not the Exalts. Demonreach being able to hold Exalts means it's definitely capable of holding Exaltations.
Yes, but Demonreach wasn't made to hold objects.
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...what?
Demonreach was made to hold bad stuff that shouldn't be set free into the world.
It can hold Exalts who want to escape. Ergo, it can hold Exaltations.
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That's what I was thinking of.
It's easier to hold the exaltations than it is to hold full fledged exalted that is true but it still requires specialized equipment that it is almost not possible that demon reach holds. If for no other reason then Jade is super rare and there's almost no way that Merlin had access to ancient sorcery. Which are the two minimum conditions we know are necessary to forge anything like the Jade prison.
Given this discussion I wonder how close anyone is IC to drawing a connection from the worlds that were to Molly.
As in, intuiting the general shape of a primordial based on the incorrect assumption that the exaltations are something inherent to how they operate. Cause they've got a teenager who woke up as a planet one day who's most notorious bullshit involves creating new things, and sparks cast off from undead realities who share some echo of her nature even as they're steeped in different themes.
I'd be tempted to draw a line between the two if I was in their place, and infer the existence of something like the Yozi. Realities that have been damned instead of killed that are the reason Hells of all types exist.
As in, intuiting the general shape of a primordial based on the incorrect assumption that the exaltations are something inherent to how they operate. Cause they've got a teenager who woke up as a planet one day who's most notorious bullshit involves creating new things, and sparks cast off from undead realities who share some echo of her nature even as they're steeped in different themes.
I'd be tempted to draw a line between the two if I was in their place, and infer the existence of something like the Yozi. Realities that have been damned instead of killed that are the reason Hells of all types exist.
Speaking of that exalt trap, we should see about getting CCI if we can make space for it at the next buy point. We have WoG from earlier it can handle stuff like time shenanigans, and considering how effective that's proven to be against old school* exalts I'd rather not get punked the same way.
Plus with other exalts around we're more likely to run into perfect attacks than ever before. Abyssals in particular have some of the cheapest in the game.
* That is, probably elder essence monsters in every sense of the term from the end of the age of sorrows.
Plus with other exalts around we're more likely to run into perfect attacks than ever before. Abyssals in particular have some of the cheapest in the game.
* That is, probably elder essence monsters in every sense of the term from the end of the age of sorrows.
Vote closed.
Can he even benefit from it until after he's received some splendor craft training? Per the white council book meeting he can at least try to learn, but it seems like he should need to learn how to use the tools there properly before applying them to tasks outside the scope of their design.
I think a more immediately useful tool would be a splendor of IA intelligence + occult as an AoE. He could use that with other wizards to make rituals like this viable and to start very ambitious crafting projects without our direct involvement.
Counter Conceptual Imposition. It's one of the more expensive perfects, but it's also the highest performing of them as a pure defense:
This is a perfect defense and not a perfect soak effect, so that angle is one that still needs covered, but being able to kick reality in the nads until it figures out how to protect you from an attack is very nice. Especially because it holds up against multi attack nonsense.
Tiffany can benefit, and she uses angelic lores, rather than splendor crafting.
As to what he would most benefit from? I'll make a write-up later, but basically this:
Form of Portentous Moonlight
Essence-Stoking Spirit
Wonder-Work of Heroes: Arete+1
upgrade to 4 dots here
Mystic Fortification: Arete rolls -2 difficulty (if that's allowed)
Art of Conjury
upgrade to 5 dots here
Sovereign Elemental Sway
Panoply of Wonders: Library
If Mystic Fortification for Arete rolls is not allowed, then use it for craft rolls.
Form of Portentious Moonlight grants him non-Sight spirit sight, which should be safer
Essence-stocking Spirit grants him essence regeneration, potentially allowing him to somewhat spam it
Arete boost gives him one more die on Arete rolls
Mystic fortification decreases the difficulty of arete rolls, increasing the number of successes
Art of Conjury + Sovereign Elemental Sway give him ability to conjure props lowering the difficulty of magic even more
Library gives him reference materials (basically, fluff it as a copy of Bob's knowledge without the personality, or even make this an upgrade to Bob's skull)
Taken together this should give Dresden -3 DC and + 1 die on all Arete rolls, essentially, plus general utility. Which all in all maximizes his power.
Angelic lore is a bit closer to the same level here. Not exactly, but it's a higher paradigm.
I'm not saying he should be totally shut out. I still have misgivings about it being possible for wizards to learn at all, but that's the ruling. My point is more that this is like showing a medieval blacksmith a high end modern lathe.
Can they use it? Eventually. They should probably have someone give a tutorial before adding it to their workshop though.
I think IA for the floor it adds to casting would work better for wizard shenanigans.
Yes, but IA is specifically for Attribute+Ability rolls, and thus doesn't apply to Arete rolls.
Arc 15 Interlude 11: Broken Ever After
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Broken Ever After
13th of March 2007 A.D.
San Fransisco
It wasn't meant to go this way.
They should have left that life behind. That's how it goes after all, the princess finds her prince charming, the monster is defeated and through it all if her love proves true they ride into the sunset happily ever after. So maybe her prince charming hadn't been the one to fight the monsters, the dead things, but Inari had been saved and she had gone away where her father couldn't find her. Lara had said so, she promised
The secrets of Inari's past could stay all zipped up in the corner of her wallet with all the pictures of a smiling family she was growing quietly convinced had never been quite real.
Life out here wasn't perfect, far from it, there was still rent to worry about and getting enough buzz going, earning enough clients. Maybe I shouldn't splurge on almond milk. A second later the cashier returned her nervous smile as she placed the carton down with a definitive thump. It's Jake's birthday, we should splurge a lit...
Sunlight glinted off steel beyond the shop window, too far, too faint for merely human eyes to see, she shot so soft that passersby mistook it for it for a backfiring car... until the glass shattered, until the hollow point strick flesh and send blood flying, bone shattering inward in a deadly arc. It wasn't just meant to kill but to make her last moments agony, placed precisely where the assassin meant it.
It wasn't meant to end this way.
Blood pooled under her, thick and fast in a carped of red among as the woman behind her in the line screamed. There was a sense of someone else, someone beside and above her, too tall he seemed and spun of neon lights, glass shards and screams, but the voice that reached her ears was almost apologetic and... familiar: "For your place in your sister's trial our thanks child. May your next life raise you up."
"Mr Lin w-why?" Inari thought she said the words but she couldn't force her lips to move. Mr. Lin wasn't, he couldn't... he had been so kind, so helpful. Why can I smell almond milk but not bl... blood. Maybe it's not real. Maybe it's all a dream?
"Bobby no..." He wouldn't know, he wouldn't know... Inari wanted to curse and kick and scream and fight, but she was just too weak... too human.
Then the Dark spoke, a presence vaster than galaxies and deeper than the void at their heart, cold and wordless, yet heavy with one final choice as the last spark of her life sputtered: embrace the awful power that rolls off of it like a dark fog, like a killing miasma, like a black fire; or reject it and pass into whatever awaits beyond death's veil.
Guess I'm a monster after all.
As her kin had done once long ago out of all knowing the youngest scion of House Raith— still the youngest daughter of House Raith— reached for the dark and of it she drank.
In a single hacking cough shards of bone and bullet flew out of her chest. and hear heart began to beat, alive yet of Death.
A debt was owed.
As she rose to her feet Inari wasn't sure why the dead man beside her was screaming, she hadn't done anything, yet.
***
"Stars and Stones..."
One thousand eight hundred and fifty four miles away Harry Dresden looked down at the shards of a broken obsidian mirror, his left hand slashed on one edge. The face of the girl hadn't seen in the better part of two years vanished from sight . He knew, he still knew that vision too had been the past, less than an hour had passed from that moment to this, but how much could have that hour held. That was why Lara had called him.
Abyssal Found: Innari Raith
Harry used 4 Essence -> Now at 1/5
What do you do?
[] Contact Lara at once
-[] Write in
[] Try to look for the others
[] Write in
OOC: I hope presenting it like this works, trying to do it though Harry's PoV through the ritual didn't work since Harry himself just doesn't work as a passive observer.
Rolls
Ritual of Finding... that's one, by default the one he would recognize
(The Ritual finds Necromancers with 2 successes, but Abyssals with 5)
Ritual of Finding... that's one, by default the one he would recognize
(The Ritual finds Necromancers with 2 successes, but Abyssals with 5)
And so an Abyssal Exalt walks the world!