What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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How about battleship that specializes in planetary assault and destroying defenses?

Beyond that we need something that can fire a lot fast to carve through Tyranid swarms. Use the rot cultists and what they pulled as justification.

Arc Cruiser and Arsenal Ship does that.

Speaking of which, Cassie's up. Main difference? A 25 DP Spinal Gun, and when the 10 DP version that wasn't a Faith Weapon was potentially a fleet killer... Well, I think we've got our Official Bugspray Ship done.
 
Arc Cruiser and Arsenal Ship does that.

Speaking of which, Cassie's up. Main difference? A 25 DP Spinal Gun, and when the 10 DP version that wasn't a Faith Weapon was potentially a fleet killer... Well, I think we've got our Official Bugspray Ship done.
Oh it's a delight. Tyranids will consider it a priority target out of sheer survival instincts the first time they get wrecked by one.
 
I AM FINISHED.

Well, mostly, there's still four Heavy Freighters and a Light Freighter that needs to be done, but I have been working on this non-stop for eight fucking hours now and I am starting to see stars. If anyone wants to do updates to our old designs, I can edit those in when I wake up tomorrow, if not, I'll just add a Freighters section and do it myself by then.

I still had a lot of fun with these! Despite the time investment. Thanks a whole lot for giving me this crunch to sink my teeth into @HeroCooky !

If you're all curious, so far, this has come at just under 4K words of fluff and crunch for this. Lots of effort, lots of reviewing, but lots of fun!

[X] The M43 New Model Fleet Program
 
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[X] The M43 New Model Fleet Program

@Alectai You've outdone yourself. Now we just need to redesign our fleets with the new ship types in mind. I don't think it makes sense to change the Flag Armada (since all of the ships involved got a direct upgrade), but here are some suggested edits to the SBG & LRAD to incorporate the new ship types. Overall a broader spread of specialties, especially making the SBG less vulnerable to boarding, adding in some secret weapons (Vela), sprinkling the Gemini and Draco into the LRAD like chili flakes.

OLD:
Standard Battle Group - (200 Points, 44 Ships, 4 Choirs for 4 Pathfinders)
-2x Lepus-Class Grand Cruisers
-5x Leo-Class Vanguard Cruiser
-11x Libra-Class Light Carrier
-10x Scorpio-Class Light Cruiser
-4x Andromeda-Class Pathfinder Ships
-8x Crux-Class Heavy Frigate
-4x Lupus Torpedo Destroyers
NEW: (proposal)
Standard Battle Group - (200 Points, 44 Ships, 4 Choirs for 4 Pathfinders)
-2x Lepus-Class Grand Cruisers
-4x Leo-Class Vanguard Cruiser
-1x Cancer-class Assault Cruiser
-11x Libra-Class Light Carrier
-8x Scorpio-Class Light Cruiser
-2x Corona-class Void Bastion
-4x Andromeda-Class Pathfinder Ships
-6x Crux-Class Heavy Frigate
-2x Vela Chrono Frigate
-2x Lupus Torpedo Destroyers
-2x Aries Corvette

And the LRAD:
OLD:
Long-Range Attack Division - (200 Points, 50 Ships, 5 Choirs for 5 Pathfinders)
-2x Phoenix-Class Arc Cruisers
-5x Pegasus-Class Command Cruiser
-14x Hydrus-Class Rad Cruiser
-5x Andromeda-Class Pathfinder Ships
-10x Scutum-Class Shield Frigate
-10x Sagitarrius Lance Frigate
NEW: (proposal)
Long-Range Attack Division - (200 Points, 50 Ships, 5 Choirs for 5 Pathfinders)
-2x Phoenix-Class Arc Cruisers
-2x Pegasus-Class Command Cruiser
-3x Draco-class Artillery Cruiser
-10x Hydrus-Class Rad Cruiser
-4x Gemini-class Liturgical Cruiser
-5x Andromeda-Class Pathfinder Ships
-10x Scutum-Class Shield Frigate
-10x Sagittarius Lance Frigate

We should also just... make more LRADs. @HeroCooky Two questions:
1. Do our fleet caps for Flag Armada's change given that they're all automated now?
2. Given that the LRADs & SBGs are the same size, can we have them share a cap? Then we'll produce more than the... 7 we currently have.

The LRADs feel like a distinct enough fleet that it's worth constructing them separately. Then when we run into an enemy and they figure out our tactics we can go "Surprise! That was only one of our doctrines, we've got a whole second set of fleets that require an entirely different counter!"

Oh it's a delight. Tyranids will consider it a priority target out of sheer survival instincts the first time they get wrecked by one.
And it's got a silent Shimmershroud so that when they finally break through it just phases out for a minute until it's safe.
🤣

Also, at some point, the N'Nonmiton's started glowing when in battle, that's not normal, is it?
🌟

I might do some work on the freighters later, or I might not. I've got my own quest update to work on, after all!
 
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[X] The M43 New Model Fleet Program

It'd have to be something ridiculous to make up for the quality loss comparatively of designing anything not in a Holy Turn ...which means it is happening pretty soon lol.

Pity we couldn't fit Discordant Shriek into any plans afaik, the redacted description seems really powerful
 
What this holy turn actually does is lock us into a trait at Void XX that doesn't improve our ships. Likely we'll go for something that improves our fleet cap, ship production rate or maybe something that makes dreadnaughts cheaper.

Because after this turn we're not doing another redesign. It's just not in the cards.
 
@HeroCooky can you please clarify on the difference of firepower?
It's a beam weapon instead of a laser shot. The longer you fire = more damage, but also more heat to dissipate for the ship. Heat reducing equipment advised for longer or more operations of the weapon.
Because why not have highly accurate Heavy Missiles on a Frigate costed voidship that bypass shields and armor to do direct hull damage?
You missed the [OR] in thbe description. :V It bypasses shields to hit armor, or armor to hit internals, not both.
@HeroCooky , I went 3 over the budget for the Draco
Finally, some good fucking eating.
1. Do our fleet caps for Flag Armada's change given that they're all automated now?
2. Given that the LRADs & SBGs are the same size, can we have them share a cap? Then we'll produce more than the... 7 we currently have.
1. You are up to 10 by now. It'll keep growing until you are at 15.
2. Sure, why not?
Because after this turn we're not doing another redesign. It's just not in the cards.
Lamenters and Kil'Drabi are devastated right now.
 
[X] The M43 New Model Fleet Program


.... @HeroCooky, I have to ask, are you rolling for the other Star Child Seals or are you timing the last one on narrative? Cause the 5th Day of the 5th Month of 555.M43 is getting pretty close, just 3 turns away actually.

Edit: This plus the non-standard Warp Observatory reading.

Edit2: And I'm not sure that I trust your whole 'The Diaconate was the last threat before the Tyranids get here' when for the entire quest your whole thing has been constantly throwing something at us with only short breaks between.
 
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Okay this is what I've got for the freighters. Mostly just an update but I also made a point of standardising the Heavy Freighters base stats because... I liked the symmetry? Also the flavour of our big freighters being effectively the same ship with different internals and the implied parts commonality appealed.

[X] Standardised Freighters

Auriga-secundus (Aur-S) Emergency Response Freighter (29 DP)
-Length
- 6.500m (+1 DP)
-Width - 1.600m
-Acceleration - 2.6 Gravities
-Armor - Thin Single Hull (+1 DP)
-Shields - Singular Emitter (+1 DP)
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Chapels to the Five/Medical Deployment Division/Orders of the Guiding Hands/Small Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith/Propaganda Center (-32 DP)

The Auriga-Secundus has been brought up to realities of modern shipbuilding with a focus on the engines to achieve a fast emergency response. Though the defences were left mostly as they were with a slight increase in width to leave room for an expansion of the Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory into a number of Small Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith, providing corruption resistant supplies.

Delphinus-secundus (Del-S) Commissary Freighter (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Comfort/3x Luxurious Crew Quarters (-44 DP)

The Delphinus Commissary Freighter is a much loved source of comfort to the weary crews of the Glimmering Federations Space Forces. So much so that there was some reluctance to make changes to a design already incorporating many of the advances of the last few centuries. However the creation of the Hexagrammic Grammophone and discovery of the Psychic Melody of Comfort proved a perfect inclusion to this beloved craft.

Columba-secundus (Col-S) Logistics Freighter (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Plants/3x Arboretums (-44 DP)

While the Columba Logistics Freighter has much less... fervent love from the rank and file from Their Holinesses Navy, loved it still is. A regular supply of good food may be less obviously noticeable than a treasured reprieve but it still is deeply appreciated. Similarly to the Delphinus the inclusion of the constant use of an appropriate Melody is hoped to greatly improve the effectiveness of this important workhorse of the Navy's logistical backbone.

Canis-Major-secundus (C-Ma-S) Bulk Transport Liner (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Improved Internal Security Systems/Blessed Shrines of the Martial Ordos/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Community/2x Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold (-44 DP)

The Cannis-Major has been rebuilt to use a standardised modern Heavy Freighter Hull, that will allow a commonality of parts and production to ease shipbuilding logistics. In combination with this complete overhaul a large portion of it's internal security system and the chapels to the Five have been replaced with Blessed Shrines of the Martial Ordos and standardised Ship Shrines. Combined with the new Hexagrammic Grammophone playing a Melody to encourage Community amongst those onboard, these changes are hoped to provide a safe and calm voyage for the crafts 200 million passengers.

Canis-Minor-secundus (C-Mi-S) Bulk Transport Hauler (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Internal Security Systems/Medium Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith/2x Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Hold (-44 DP)

The Cannis-Minor has also been rebuilt to utilise the standardised modern Heavy Freighter Hull, to provide a commonality of parts and ease shipbuilding logistics. In combination with this complete overhaul Medium Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith have been added to allow a stream of holy equipment custom made for the needs of on the ground conditions, while the vast cargo holds of generic emergency relief aid are slowly emptied.
 
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Well, mostly, there's still four Heavy Freighters and a Light Freighter that needs to be done, but I have been working on this non-stop for eight fucking hours now and I am starting to see stars. If anyone wants to do updates to our old designs, I can edit those in when I wake up tomorrow, if not, I'll just add a Freighters section and do it myself by then.
Our current Emergency Response Freighter can be upgraded into this:

Auriga-Class Emergency Response Freighter Secondus
-Length - 7.500m
-Width - 1.600m
-Acceleration - 3 Gravities(+1 DP)
-Armor - Thick Single Hull
-Shields - Three Emitters
-[] Weapons - 1x Medium Hangars - [Fighter] 1x Medium Hangars - [Mixed] (+2 DP)
-Equipment - Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations(standard)/Chapels to the Five(3)/Medical Deployment Division(5)/Orders of the Guiding Hands(5)/Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory(5)/Propaganda Center(6)/Light Teleportarium(2) = 26 DP
29/29 DP

Its longer, wider, faster with better shields and armor, has two more hangars and a Teleportarium to deliver the aid.


For Heavy Freigthers(51 DP) i think the following:

one build around:
Monumental Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith - These variant manufactories are arranged in a star pattern inside the hull, producing armaments, supplies, and other sundry items. The products of such manufactories are resistant to corruption. (45 DP)

One to go over budget with a:
Monumental On-Board Manufactory - Fuck it. This ship is now a Warp-capable manufactury capable of outright producing most non-Warp ship-classes and items up to Heavy Monitors. You can guess what that means for the fleets they are attached to.(60 DP)

One invastion support ship:
Small Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith - These variant manufactories are arranged in a star pattern inside the hull, producing armaments, supplies, and other sundry items. The products of such manufactories are resistant to corruption. (6 DP)
Propaganda Center - Be it a vox-caster, pict-recorder, or pamphlet, this center for propaganda is more than capable of churning out hundreds of methods to turn a population for or against any thing, opinion, person, action, or idea as long as it is allowed to work its magic unmolested.(6 DP)
Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory - A large manufactory designed to produce sophont aid goods, such as tents, medicine, and construction equipment, with materials sourced locally.(5 DP)
Medical Deployment Division - Sometimes, a ship should not bring war. Sometimes, a healing hand must be given freely. And with the ability to deploy medical care to entire planets, even if only the most critical locations, that helping hand shall be extended. Always.(5 DP)
Emergency Relief Cargo Holds - Holds everything a small population experiencing a natural or artificial disaster may need to survive.(4 DP)
Large Teleportarium - These Teleporters can send twenty roughly Ogryn-sized objects through the Warp in a straight line every second, often blocked by more than ten meters of solid matter. Yet, the versatility of surprise boarding troops outweighs the drawbacks.(4 DP)
Large Black Cat Troop Compartment - Enough space and Life Support Systems to transport Thirty ground military units through the Warp and create a FOB with attached defenses and artillery base. (4 DP)
Dedicated Heavy Ortillery - Able to deliver munitions against the foes of its controllers, dedicated ortillery has none of the downsides of aiming a ship's main guns at a planet as it can aim without a margin of error measured in kilometers. With the addition of heavier guns, planetary or city shields will offer our foes less protection than they might hope for.(3 DP)
= 37 DP

-[] Length - 13.000 Meters(+3 DP)
-[] Width - 4.500 Meters(+3 DP)
-[] Acceleration - 2 Gravities(+2 DP)
-[] Armor - Medium Double Hull(+2 DP)
-[] Shields - One Matrix(+2 DP)
-[] Weapons - 1x Medium Hangars - [Fighter] 1x Medium Hangars - [Interceptor] (+2 DP)
 
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We still need four more ship designs. Anyone with a knack for it might want to start now.
Alectai did all the combat ships and I just finished up redesigning all our Freighters an hour ago?
Okay this is what I've got for the freighters. Mostly just an update but I also made a point of standardising the Heavy Freighters base stats because... I liked the symmetry? Also the flavour of our big freighters being effectively the same ship with different internals and the implied parts commonality appealed.

[X] Standardised Freighters

Auriga-secundus (Aur-S) Emergency Response Freighter (29 DP)
-Length
- 6.500m (+1 DP)
-Width - 1.600m
-Acceleration - 2.6 Gravities
-Armor - Thin Single Hull (+1 DP)
-Shields - Singular Emitter (+1 DP)
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Chapels to the Five/Medical Deployment Division/Orders of the Guiding Hands/Small Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith/Propaganda Center (-32 DP)

The Auriga-Secundus has been brought up to realities of modern shipbuilding with a focus on the engines to achieve a fast emergency response. Though the defences were left mostly as they were with a slight increase in width to leave room for an expansion of the Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory into a number of Small Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith, providing corruption resistant supplies.

Delphinus-secundus (Del-S) Commissary Freighter (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Comfort/3x Luxurious Crew Quarters (-44 DP)

The Delphinus Commissary Freighter is a much loved source of comfort to the weary crews of the Glimmering Federations Space Forces. So much so that there was some reluctance to make changes to a design already incorporating many of the advances of the last few centuries. However the creation of the Hexagrammic Grammophone and discovery of the Psychic Melody of Comfort proved a perfect inclusion to this beloved craft.

Columba-secundus (Col-S) Logistics Freighter (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Plants/3x Arboretums (-44 DP)

While the Columba Logistics Freighter has much less... fervent love from the rank and file from Their Holinesses Navy, loved it still is. A regular supply of good food may be less obviously noticeable than a treasured reprieve but it still is deeply appreciated. Similarly to the Delphinus the inclusion of the constant use of an appropriate Melody is hoped to greatly improve the effectiveness of this important workhorse of the Navy's logistical backbone.

Canis-Major-secundus (C-Ma-S) Bulk Transport Liner (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Improved Internal Security Systems/Blessed Shrines of the Martial Ordos/Hexagrammic Grammophone: Community/2x Titanic Civilian Transportation Hold (-44 DP)

The Cannis-Major has been rebuilt to use a standardised modern Heavy Freighter Hull, that will allow a commonality of parts and production to ease shipbuilding logistics. In combination with this complete overhaul a large portion of it's internal security system and the chapels to the Five have been replaced with Blessed Shrines of the Martial Ordos and standardised Ship Shrines. Combined with the new Hexagrammic Grammophone playing a Melody to encourage Community amongst those onboard, these changes are hoped to provide a safe and calm voyage for the crafts 200 million passengers.

Canis-Minor-secundus (C-Mi-S) Bulk Transport Hauler (51 DP)
-Length
- 12.000m (-2 DP)
-Width - 4.000m (-2 DP)
-Acceleration - 2 Gravities (-2 DP)
-Armor - Thin Double Hull (-1 DP)
-Shields - Two Arrays
-Weapons - Unarmed
-Equipment - (Standard)Ship Shrines/(Standard)Superior Gravimetric Engine Calculations/Internal Security Systems/Medium Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith/2x Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Hold (-44 DP)

The Cannis-Minor has also been rebuilt to utilise the standardised modern Heavy Freighter Hull, to provide a commonality of parts and ease shipbuilding logistics. In combination with this complete overhaul Medium Blessed Manufactories of the Five-Fold Faith have been added to allow a stream of holy equipment custom made for the needs of on the ground conditions, while the vast cargo holds of generic emergency relief aid are slowly emptied.
 
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