Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy
Actually, it makes me think it's an exaltation even more. The Crown cannot see itself. It stands to reason it will have issues seeing other exaltations. Not to mention that Autochton made specific anti twilight defenses.
[X] Plan Peers
-[X] Remove BMI, emotionally address Ragnhildur as a peer and a respected elder - one inheritor of ancient power to another
--[X] SCCP for the explanation of the Wheel Turning, the object in dragon's belly powering their bloodline, and what you are offering, to carry through the intricacies of meaning, and as further proof of what you are saying
--[X] Empathy excellency for the appeal, Occult excellency for the technical details of explanations
-[X] Offer them
--[X] Your geomantic expertise to improve the Dragon Nest you are now in, and the one the dragon is in, should they agree
--[X] A chance to rest in Sanctuary
--[X] A place in the Age to come
-[X] Stunt: "Believe me, elder, I understand a lot about the Turning of the Wheel, and powers of Ages Past" you state, and with a barest effort of will, shatter Black Mirror encompassing you, the nature of your anima revealed to the world, the mark upon your brow shining bright. "I am happy to greet my honorable Exalted peer, one heir to another, and extend an offer of aid and words of caution at this turning of ages" you say in the language that predates even the dragons' blood, the words themselves proof of the sort of power you bear, the human emotion behind them adding substance and depth beyond what even the inhuman words were designed for.
--[X] "Much has happened in the last year, and much is going to happen in coming ones. In the spirit of honesty, I offer you knowledge, so you may make choices with your eyes open. I offer you aid in this world and Sanctuary among my own people so you will not go quietly into the night" you state with determination, before launching into a detailed explanation of what's going on, what you offer, and what Odin's actions might do to them.
Very possibly too much. But I think it's appropriate. We are addressing a leader of people. A peer, of sorts, of exalted kind. So, cards on the table, offer of help provided. VEE is ideal for this, by the way. And maybe Kristin will, exalt due to being exposed to our anima. Very low chance, but would be hilarious.
Last edited:
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
DP said if we used a more specific question we would have gotten a better answer so no I don't think that has anything to do with it and you just sort of ignored that part of his post.
The answer we got from the Crown wasn't non objective. It's the sor tof response id expect from the Dragon so it's very weird.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] A chance to rest in Sanctuary
-[X][Stunt] "This world might rebel against you, but there is another world suited to you."
-[X][Stunt] "This world might rebel against you, but there is another world suited to you."
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Is this supposed to be Source Code Compliance Protocol? I'll be honest I don't like that you throw this in when it's not needed. It just makes things harder to understand. Whenever it's used we get some sort of weird computer code like speech instead of normal English.
Occult is a maxed stat of ours and a specialty ability. Why do you anticipate us needing an excellency for it just to explain something? Is it just being applied here because it can be or an I missing a mechanic here?
Yes it is, and here it's actually meaningful. We are addressing her as one Exalt to another. SCCP should be far better at transmitting hpthe meaning of the term than English. We are also going into detailed thaumaturgical explanations of stuff like the Turning of Ages, geomantic engineering, etc.
I am overly cautious here. We need to explain how the dragon is powering their bloodline, and the we need to explain what we can do with their dragon nest. We need to be convincing enough to roll over an elder dragonblooded. For that, we need both Empathy, and a lot of technical details, I feel, to prove our credentials. To show that we aren't boasting, but can actually help. Hence Occult excellency.
We are trying to explain high motonic science project design to someone most likely without any proper sorcerous education, but with exalted social charms.
That's a big task.
Edit: on SCCP - it's also a way to somewhat prove our credentials. Which is the biggest hurdle.
Last edited:
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Ah, I do dimly recall it being said that the term "Exalted" doesn't really have an English equivalent so at least the dialogue being harder to read will have a purpose here. Still annoying though.
I don't really remember Molly learning the term Exalted. Where could she have picked it up from?
I think this is definitely paranoia type logic considering the stat in question but I could be wrong. Don't have any other issues with the plan. It gets our intent across well.
[X] Plan Peers
Then again, aren't infernals the prospective rulers of the next age?
She is almost certainly right that the wheel is turning, she just don't know she just met the pin on which it does.
[X] Plan Peers
She asked Uriel how her power was called. He replied that it was an exaltation- a moment and a mechanism to allow mortals to achieve impossible things. Later, when we learned of Arthurian knights, Arthur was also referred to as being exalted beyond his peers, with the word exalted being related to what Molly is. So, there's at least some justification.
It is paranoia, but I want to make sure get get legendary successes here.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
I remember this now. This makes the Crown response and the fact that Molly didn't draw a connection to what the Dragon swallowed and her own Exaltation even weirder. Then again Fae aren't mortal so maybe that's why.
It might not be an exaltation, to be fair. Not sure what else fits all the clues (one of Luna's alternative selves? Really not sure), but we cannot be 100% sure.
Also, in the interest of paranoia and honesty: my vote has a risk. Dragonblooded were referred to as "jailers, but not of mortal men". If Black Vault exists and they still maintain their vigilance, presence of an active celestial exalt might get treated negatively.
I find it unlikely - the knights didn't attack us, but they might not be from established families (honestly, their whole thing is super weird and we should investigate how come a whole circle of dragonblooded was assembled in middle ages, possibly with a celestial king in the lead).
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Maybe, it could be a cultural issue we'd be stepping on unknowingly but if that is the case it's probably best we make that known now to gauge their reaction in front of us. I mean we could get more of their trust before outright saying it but if they know what they are I feel like they'd figure it out on their own somehow and I'd rather not be blindsided by a racist sort of reaction later... But that sort of thing is best fought when people with preconceived notions know more of your actual character.
Whatever, I think we need to outbid Odin with an offer so it can't really wait.
[X] Plan Forgotten Family
-[X] Social buffs, FPoR
-[X] Offer a chance to rest in sanctuary
-[X] [Stunt]: As a deep sapphire note sang brightly in her soul, Molly met gaze of the dragon inside the woman before her. For a moment she almost felt familiar, like a childhood memory stumbled over in a flash of color or taste of home.
—[X] "The wheel turns, and old things are new again, but it's worth remembering what remains in this one. The dragon which guards that treasure does not do it for its own sake; it holds that prize as a means of sustaining you. It may be perilous to descend the mountain alone"
—[X] Allowing some of her hesitation to play across her face, Molly continues "I know because I'm also the inheritor of lost ages, if in a different way".
—[X] With a sensation somewhere between raising her head and a Cobra flaring its hood the mark on Molly's forehead shimmered into existence, casting a shadow that almost seemed crowned with eyes.
—[X] "I get the feeling we're supposed to know each other, that even if the exalted do not fit this world they do fit with each other"
Not sure about all the writing in this one. Had to put it together in snippets around other stuff so it feels a little clunky. Still, I think this is a good approach.
Molly isn't a clued in celestial greeting a terrestrial, she's one inheritor of a dead era speaking with another. There's something more personal to this.
-[X] Social buffs, FPoR
-[X] Offer a chance to rest in sanctuary
-[X] [Stunt]: As a deep sapphire note sang brightly in her soul, Molly met gaze of the dragon inside the woman before her. For a moment she almost felt familiar, like a childhood memory stumbled over in a flash of color or taste of home.
—[X] "The wheel turns, and old things are new again, but it's worth remembering what remains in this one. The dragon which guards that treasure does not do it for its own sake; it holds that prize as a means of sustaining you. It may be perilous to descend the mountain alone"
—[X] Allowing some of her hesitation to play across her face, Molly continues "I know because I'm also the inheritor of lost ages, if in a different way".
—[X] With a sensation somewhere between raising her head and a Cobra flaring its hood the mark on Molly's forehead shimmered into existence, casting a shadow that almost seemed crowned with eyes.
—[X] "I get the feeling we're supposed to know each other, that even if the exalted do not fit this world they do fit with each other"
Not sure about all the writing in this one. Had to put it together in snippets around other stuff so it feels a little clunky. Still, I think this is a good approach.
Molly isn't a clued in celestial greeting a terrestrial, she's one inheritor of a dead era speaking with another. There's something more personal to this.
Good night guys, see you tomorrow with dragonblooded and the end of the month.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Hmm, yes playing more of an emotional angle instead of a formal one could help. They've both inherited something that Odin can't relate to even if he is old. If he thinks it's an Exaltation he's probably just looking at it as an asset with Molly as his basis for what to expect.
@Yog he has a point here. May want to modify your stunt a bit. Molly was evidently moved too so it would be very in character and the elder dragon blooded was aiming for that sort of emotional response.
Edit: Actually the more I think about it the more I'm pretty sure going for more of an emotional angle with the stunt instead of such a purely formal one could help us here.
Odin is very much an 'outsider' to this. He's a more modern faction of a newer age trying to take advantage of an opportunity rather than someone who is emotionally invested in the future of Exalted. If it turns out that he hasn't mentioned that taking the relic away from the dragon would screw them over in turn we could push this entirely truthful angle to even greater effectiveness.
From a political perspective the loss would be much lesser as to relations with Odin since this would also be an emotional matter pertaining to the future of Exalted. As we are Exalts we have more of a right as to what direction they go in than Odin here.
Last edited:
Any interest in voting for my plan directly then, or is there a specific issue with it?
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
There is no particular issue, the emotional angle is a very strong avenue of attack politically speaking, taking advantage of the US vs Them/Outsider mentality which could immediately be proven true if Odin didn't tell them what the relic he wants is doing for their bloodline.
It would also clearly appeal to Ragnhildur more than something purely formal since this is a family/bloodline thing, and it seems like she was aiming to emotionally move Molly, which she did successfully.
I think @Yog's vote is more likely to win though so I'm trying to get him to incorporate parts of your stunt so we can push this angle to the dragon blooded and politically to Odin and his people later on. The idea being that we view Exalts and Exaltations as more than assets to be coveted, and because he isn't one, on some level he can't really relate and has less of a right to mess around with them.
None of this would be false either. If he incorporates this aspect of your stunt I'll switch my vote back over to his but for now I think it's critical that we be less formal on this because it would help us with the dragon blooded and Odin.
[X] Plan Forgotten Family
- Location
- Who knows?
[X] Plan Forgotten Family
[X] Plan Peers
- Location
- Brazil
The use of emotion after it was used against Molly and was successful is great, especially since Molly often had (much to DP's dismay) glimpses of what the Age of Legends was like, which should deepen her feeling as an heir to something who has been dead so long that even the legends are disappearing.
I liked this one much more than Yog, because it is simpler, more direct and efficient in terms of Essence which in his plan seems to spend too freely for my taste on non-essential things when even after that we will have to talk to the Dragon or other people, or fight against something.
[X] Plan Forgotten Family
I really do think an overly formal tone is the wrong approach for us to take here. A Dragonblooded elder is baring her heart here, sure it's with intention but that doesn't inherently make it false. This should be more of a moment of connection that strikes a chord instead of a court introduction.
Also worth mentioning that our aura isn't exactly exalted coded. The caste mark is a lot more suitable in this role.
On the matter of proving our credentials; we can do that in the following scenes, we don't need to pack ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag here. Respond to the moment and make it our own, then we can get into the details.
Also worth mentioning that our aura isn't exactly exalted coded. The caste mark is a lot more suitable in this role.
On the matter of proving our credentials; we can do that in the following scenes, we don't need to pack ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag here. Respond to the moment and make it our own, then we can get into the details.