I wasn't criticizing you in any way, that was just my thoughts on the matter and voting for the plan I supported.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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In that case I'd like to point out that a quotation isn't a vote and you haven't actually voted for anything.
X]Plan Unleash The Dragon
-[X] Lift the curse, then attack
-[X]Sophia: Activate Adaptation, then teleport and attack in melee
-[X]Molly: Switch to counterspelling support. Excellency if necessary.
-[X]Others: Continue as per previous plan
-[X]STUNT: You stare for a moment then shake your head. "Just the curse?" you say, conferring mentally with your companions "Okay." And as you relax your will, Sophia vanishes, reappearing behind a Hollow Man body in the distance with her sword already midswing.
-[X] Lift the curse, then attack
-[X]Sophia: Activate Adaptation, then teleport and attack in melee
-[X]Molly: Switch to counterspelling support. Excellency if necessary.
-[X]Others: Continue as per previous plan
-[X]STUNT: You stare for a moment then shake your head. "Just the curse?" you say, conferring mentally with your companions "Okay." And as you relax your will, Sophia vanishes, reappearing behind a Hollow Man body in the distance with her sword already midswing.
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your missing a bracket.
He apologized for both what he did on purpose and for the unintended consequences, so yes he made a mistake
You guys hit an edge case in a very strange place, one of the strangest places in existence, even so it was not a perfect defense, it was not something in the world not acting as you expect, it is an actor in the world not acting as you would expect (the angel), potentially at the behest of a third (the Hollow Man).
So, I'm just realizing how freaky this should be from Hollow Man's perspective. Here he is, fighting a demon gifted / invested archmage / akuma 2.0 (or however he is conceptualizing Molly). Strange, but not too strange - demons are part of Creation here (that's actually quite interesting, metaphisically, because it might mean that Creation incorporated Malfeas and possibly other Primordials into itself at some point). And then suddenly Molly is dropping an Old One backed and fueled curse on him. Outsider magic of highest caliber. Summoning a Walker to fight him would be a lesser trick. This should be short circuiting his thought processes.
Speaking of, @DragonParadox can we guess how Hollow Man's patrons would react to him calling an angel to stop us waking Ebon Dragon? Because I would expect at least some of them (the Neverborn faction, not the Raksha faction) to want such disasters in Creation. Has he, in desperation to survive, incurred wraith of his masters?
Speaking of, @DragonParadox can we guess how Hollow Man's patrons would react to him calling an angel to stop us waking Ebon Dragon? Because I would expect at least some of them (the Neverborn faction, not the Raksha faction) to want such disasters in Creation. Has he, in desperation to survive, incurred wraith of his masters?
Not with any degree of certainty. The thing about outsiders is they do not seem to be the least logical from a non-Outsider PoV. The few times you grasped their logic it was because you saw into their heads as with Nemesis.
[X] Abide by the judgement, trust that the angel can drive Drusus off and you can recover the souls you came looking for, though it galls you to let him continue to exist
Good night guys.
Seems like a fine line to draw in this case.
The Angelic warden of the Ebon Dragon's corpse* looking right at the results of a charm and thinking she sees his name being called is very different than Uriel not knowing what the exaltation can do in advance. Angels are a step above the guys who used to administrate natural law for Creation; it's like electromagnetism getting confused about if something is magnetic or not.
If the vice president of the electro-weak force misses the distinction then I'd contend it's one without difference.
* Especially because we're using Kakuri's homework for this and it literally runs up against the Ebon Road.
I don't think we would know what would happen to a Yozi who has opened their charmset undergoes Fetich death.
For all we know, like when Theion died, they're partially preserved, and any part of themself defined by a charm a living Imfernal has stays the same.
Given that the Ebon Dragon has Ultimate Darkness Internalisation and the deep rules defining what reality can be have changed enough that resurrection is now possible, if there's anyone that managed to develop charm tech that would allow him to flip the polarity of his essence back to being alive if the right combination of unlikely circumstances came to pass it's the Shadow of All Things.
Basically setting up a massive sorcery ritual that was contingent on his Essence signature being present half Outside, half in Creation, and so tricking reality into saying that as one of his charms fuelled by something that looks very much like his essence is being used, he clearly must actually still be alive.
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It's electromagnetism from at least three full patches of reality ago. It is still on theme for using powers out of time, you just struck against a particular rough spot in the way that interacts with the modern context.
Not necessarily. If the White God is, for example; a second generation Devil Tiger turned Primordial, and we're living in his world body, the angels may be his deva, and he may have done something to the rebels analogous to what was done to the deva of the defeated Primordials to the rebel angels to turn them into demons.
I am still betting on Luna clawing her way back into being alive at some point. Possibly to have already done so. And no, this is most likely not good. Maybe Oramus too. Three of the Maidens seem to be powering the fae queens. Gaia might or might not be alive in some way.
We are reforging the sword. @BronzeTongue has a design in mind, if I recall correctly.
So, uhh... Another strange thing that I just thought of. Ok, let's say that the Dragon That Was (the Neverborn of Ebon Dragon according to Return of the Scarlett Empress) is bound under Ebon road. We are an Infernal. We are using a charm of Ebon Dragon. Ebon Dragon is not Dragon That Was. In order to become a Neverborn he has to experience Fetich Death, as I understand it. Why would his slumber be disturbed by invocations of Ebon Dragon's name and power? Is Ebon Dragon actually dead?
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What the angel says does not track with the involved metaphysics as we understand it, best to verify who's understanding is correct and then act based on that instead of either doubling down out of stubbornness or backing down out of fear.
What the angel says does not track with the involved metaphysics as we understand it, best to verify who's understanding is correct and then act based on that instead of either doubling down out of stubbornness or backing down out of fear.
The conceit of ExWoD is that they're dead, or so completely transformed into something else as to effectively be so*. The quest doesn't have to be following that, but the explanation given for why the infernals are free is that the chains fell apart. That wasn't a property that needed maintenance.
This is speculation, but I don't think the chains could rust away while the Yozi were alive. Even unconscious there'd be some level of connection to keep things in place.
The Yozi didn't forget who they were, they had it taken from them. Maybe it's as simple as references to their old identities really pissing them off of they're awake enough to hear them, or the guard being concerned that might be the case without being certain of it.
I'm biased on this though; adding a little exalted is nice, but bringing back major entities is too much of a distortion. Holden got it right when he went with the approach "use any explanation you like as long as the result is they're too dead to personally matter again" for ExWoD.
* INB4 on his death the Ebon Dragon ended up tearing himself apart, resulting in one bit containing the worst of his impulses and the other an inversion of his nature. That is to say, the white god. The Angel's job is to keep his evil!Jizo asleep.
Because what is killing a shadow if not turning on a light?
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[X] Plan In the Light of the Crown
