Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

As good as essence makes them I don't think every wizard will be up to ancient sorcery. We were warned that teaching it is something we shouldn't have expected to be able to do pretty early on after all. You need power and authority; this is power but not itself authority.

Harry being an exception among exceptions would make a certain amount of sense, because he had to be deep into the esoteric lore to even get here and is himself a Starborn wizard. People he teaches could easily "only" be able to use it for other things.
Ancient Sorcery only being open to Starborn, and perhaps not even all starborn is quite plausible. The biggest questions, however, are "can mortals buy essence levels with XP" and "what happens once you go beyond E3 as a mortal".
 
Ancient Sorcery only being open to Starborn, and perhaps not even all starborn is quite plausible. The biggest questions, however, are "can mortals buy essence levels with XP" and "what happens once you go beyond E3 as a mortal".
I don't think they'd turn into gods or anything, especially this early in their development. Essence use is great, but they're not exactly that impressive compared to what that meant back in the day so to speak.

If it's possible at all I'd expect it to be

1) difficult to satisfy the conditions allowing them to buy E3
2) require substantial essence specific casting abilities instead of "just" entry level access to a mote pool/enhanced moral casting
3) Some specific ritual to make the leap into being a divine spirit.

In the age of legends gods were a lot more common and accessible, people were in general a lot closer to the base elements of reality and increasing in power naturally meant following in those footsteps. Hell, it's possible to argue that becoming a god could involve simply getting powerful enough for the celestial bureaucracy to bother doing something with you since in base Exalted god is a political term.
 
Ancient Sorcery only being open to Starborn, and perhaps not even all starborn is quite plausible. The biggest questions, however, are "can mortals buy essence levels with XP" and "what happens once you go beyond E3 as a mortal".
  1. Yes, but it is very costly, one should not expect to advance in Essence unless one lives a very interesting life
  2. You stop being mortal, specifically your soul crystalizes into a new godling of something you are invested in, be it as mundane as your home or as arcane as conjunction in the night sky. There is a lot of room for small gods on Earth for some reason
 
  1. Yes, but it is very costly, one should not expect to advance in Essence unless one lives a very interesting life
  2. You stop being mortal, specifically your soul crystalizes into a new godling of something you are invested in, be it as mundane as your home or as arcane as conjunction in the night sky. There is a lot of room for small gods on Earth for some reason
Still, I expect that if essence awakening becomes commonplace, the expected natural end of pretty much every white council member will be godhood.
 
Arc 14 Post 52: End of the Road
End of the Road

18th of February 2007 A.D.

"Tarnation! What's the boy gone and done now?" Maybe you are starting to get a little loopy after everything that happened today because the first thing that pops into your mind is that you never heard someone use that word genuinely. Fortunately the second thing is more useful: "He's become Enlightened, not morally, not necessarily morally Harry is a good person, but this is more like being an Olympian of the soul, embracing and reflecting the essence of all things that dwells in the human soul just as it does in all other times and places and in between times and places too. "

"Aren't you a little young for those riddles?" the old wizard asks, shaking his head in frustration. "Come on, we have to..."

Sophia's voice breaks the silence, a roar echoing forever in the depths of the Labyrinth sinking down into some secret well of healing and from there drawing the power to awaken Harry.

Awake he does and not gently, rolling onto his blasting rod. In an instant it's pointed at her and the runes along its length white-hot in the span of an instant before recognition shows on his face.

"This is real right...?"

Before you can consider how one even goes about proving he throws a mote of white hot Essence at you like he's pitching and its the ninth inning. You don't so much catch it as absorb it by proximity.

Gained 1 Essence -> Now at 7/18

"Good nough, don't want to risk opening my Sight. I saw enough in there to last me a lifetime even with it closed."

Alas the night is not quite done with revelations, down and in your go, past rows of bones fist laid down in the long years that history now best recalls for the ages before and after, the middle ages, victims of plague and war, want and the simple advance of time now holding each other fast by command of a king long past their time. They seem almost to whisper, conspiring behind you. Had it not been for Lydia you might have passed your presnce over them and stripped lingering wraiths from hollow bone, but according to her there is no malice to it, more in the manner of arena full of sports fans might place a bet on a match. Fair's fair, there probably isn't much to do in death especially around here. Only so many times you can read the plaques.

At last you come to signs of battle, not suntle ones either, a heavy iron door of the kind that shouldn't be down here blasted open and the smell of blood filling the air. A dozen bodies most of them young, all of them wizards lay screwn on the floor while an exhausted looking Arthur Langtry his robes stained with soot, blood and other less identifiable things stands in the middle of the room physically holding closed an iron maiden bearing the mocking likeness of an angel. Lines of blue while magic are really doing the sealing but physical exercion lends weight to the warding.

"Ebeneezer, Dresden," his tone, much to your surprise does not sour on the second word. "I'd ask you what you are doing here, but I imagine the same thing as I, stumbling though ambushes we should have seen coming."

"What is that?" Lydia is the first to ask.

"A rather nasty device that contrary to its appearance doesn't imprison people, it lets them loose, in fact given how its' been empowered it would let the whole city of Paris loose, right into the Nevernever. It drops the veil to nothing, no more. Not that it would have to do more, it would be utter pandemonium, that many ignorant sous throw into the out in one place. Everything with a taste for man would be out in force and every single citizen an exposure risk under the Accords. It would have been quite clever if it hadn't been so psychotic."

"What did you do?" Ebeneezer asks his eyes laser-focused on the other wizard.

"I did not kill any despite..." he waves at the air. "Everything. Some of them did kill each other trying to get through my wards. The enthralling force damaged their ability to asses risk even within the context of the scenario they had been implanted with. As outnumbered as I was I couldn't afford to hold back. Three Lawbreakers, four dead and five or six broken swords. A dark day indeed."

Now its Harry's turn to glare at him, probably for counting swords and deaths in the same breath, but the Merlin does not seem to notice.

How do you remove the veil-ripper artifact?

[] Let the Blackstaff handle it

[] Try to destroy it yourself (Risk of taking considerable damage from backlash)

[] Try to take it into Sanctuary for study (Risk of going off and serving as a beacon in the spirit world for predatory and malicious entities)

[] Write in


OOC: Enjoy.
 
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Ok, and I ask again, because it's the perfect time to do it, and any moment afterwards it'll be too late - how do we deal with Digital Possession Management charm we bought? Because at E4 I wrote it to allow storage of magical objects. Are we allowed to go "I have a charm for this" here? We haven't ever used it yet in the story, but it seems like a perfect solution for the situation. Too perfect in fact.
 
Well, it's not an ideal situation and I don't trust Arthur. But at least he's not a damsel in distress, he's a sapper sitting on a mine that he hasn't completely defused. Wow, this situation is completely fucked up...
 
Ok, and I ask again, because it's the perfect time to do it, and any moment afterwards it'll be too late - how do we deal with Digital Possession Management charm we bought? Because at E4 I wrote it to allow storage of magical objects. Are we allowed to go "I have a charm for this" here? We haven't ever used it yet in the story, but it seems like a perfect solution for the situation. Too perfect in fact.

You could do it, but you would still be putting the magical bomb inside your soul. If it blows that way it will be somewhat muffled instead of being thrown into sanctuary though, good thought.
 
I am pleasantly surprised that the general incompetence of the White Council did not affect the Merlin. The problem is, where's Luccio and why didn't the Merlin bring up the Labyrinth? Did he get a boon himself from making it through, or is he compromised?
 
You could do it, but you would still be putting the magical bomb inside your soul. If it blows that way it will be somewhat muffled instead of being thrown into sanctuary though, good thought.
Would we? The charm is a transformation effect relying on data storage devices (with the very, very bad scaling which we haven't worked out, not really). It doesn't store digitized objects inside our anima, it turns them into compact essence patterns attached to digital files stored on digital storage devices.

I guess we would be risking Clippy and the records she holds. Or we send Sophia to rob a nearby store for a laptop or two.
 
Um, if the Merlin was compromised by the Labyrinth how would we know? He wouldn't just tell us and getting into a fight right now with Molly and co would be stupid. Do we need to use the Crown to verify??
 
Um, if the Merlin was compromised by the Labyrinth how would we know? He wouldn't just tell us and getting into a fight right now with Molly and co would be stupid. Do we need to use the Crown to verify??
Sight + Crown, yes. I think he is, if not compromised, then close to it. "These people killed themselves with my magic" is a Law violation. A borderline case politically, but he's definitely eating the corruption damage.
 
Um, if the Merlin was compromised by the Labyrinth how would we know? He wouldn't just tell us and getting into a fight right now with Molly and co would be stupid. Do we need to use the Crown to verify??
Presumably because Molly is running All Things Betray, Hellscry Chakra, Boiling Sea Mastery and Shintai.
We can use the Crown if you are really worried about it, but a cumulative -5DC to Perception rolls is very hard to beat.
And by very hard, I mean she's probably rolling autosuccesses on her Perception rolls.
 
Presumably because Molly is running All Things Betray, Hellscry Chakra, Boiling Sea Mastery and Shintai.
We can use the Crown if you are really worried about it, but a cumulative -5DC to Perception rolls is very hard to beat.
And by very hard, I mean she's probably rolling autosuccesses on her Perception rolls.
But we haven't checked it yet. I don't think we can be sure that it's compromised based on a couple of words. We need to actually make the roll.
 
Sight + Crown, yes. I think he is, if not compromised, then close to it. "These people killed themselves with my magic" is a Law violation. A borderline case politically, but he's definitely eating the corruption damage.
He said that they killed themselves trying to get past his wards. Im not sure if that actually counts as he didn't kill them with magic.

Kind of like how setting off wards around a wizard's sanctum and getting killed by them doesn't cause black magic corruption to the one who set the wards.

Probably a smart way to go. Alternatively the Sight
No wizard should use the Sight down here, the HollowMan is also down here.. somewhere and we were already warned about doing just that.

Presumably because Molly is running All Things Betray, Hellscry Chakra, Boiling Sea Mastery and Shintai.
We can use the Crown if you are really worried about it, but a cumulative -5DC to Perception rolls is very hard to beat.
And by very hard, I mean she's probably rolling autosuccesses on her Perception rolls.
That's really good but what would she be perceiving here? Some signs would be really obvious but if it's something subtle like the Merlin getting a change of mindset after using the Outside to maybe better defend himself is that something Molly could notice just by looking?
 
Paris, they should all be in Paris now, it was tricky, but we managed to convince Arthur that we had things under control here, we had to kill... it doesn't matter now, Sacrifices had to be made, but we convinced him things were under control here and he had to go to Paris. That, we got him to believe was where the heart of the rebellion lay.

So apparently Arthur thought Paris was where the rebellion was. He clearly wised up fast and realized he was under attack by traitors and brainwashed Wardens, but where the heck is Luccio? Why hasn't he mentioned her, when he mentioned the swords she made?
 
I have to run, so, for now:

[X] Plan Digital Age
-[X] Get a mobile phone from Sophia, Use Digital Possessions Management on the Veil-ripping device to store it in the phone without potentially damaging Clippy's body and all the records it holds


This should be the solution, the problem is the potential cost (up to 6 motes if it's a 5 dot artifact). We'd be pretty much dropping to empty tank with this, I am not hiding it. But it solves the issue.

Kind of like how setting off wards around a wizard's sanctum and getting killed by them doesn't cause black magic corruption to the one who set the wards.
Doesn't it? Because it was my understanding that it does.
 
@DragonParadox

QUESTION
The numbers arent adding up. The picture isnt adding up.
Luccio took 20 Wardens with her, and here we have run into a total of 14 wizards.
And that 14 apparently counts the Merlin's escort and the 2 kid Wardens we grabbed

1)Where is Luccio? Is she on the ground?
2)Where is the Merlin's escort/bodyguard? Molly has met them when they came to Chicago, she'd recognize them on sight.
They arent young, IIRC.
 
I think we should check and then do this plan?

[X] Plan Digital Age
-[X] Get a mobile phone from Sophia, Use Digital Possessions Management on the Veil-ripping device to store it in the phone without potentially damaging Clippy's body and all the records it holds
 
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