Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Most supernatural creatures have some magical abilities, but they aren't able to act with the flexibility of a wizard. Lea, for example, can play evoker with the best of them. As long as you're asking for Winter theme stuff. A Winter fey is completely incapable of summoning enough warmth to heat a can of soup, much less set people on fire.
Not entirely true. At least with the Leanansidhe.

Grave Peril: Lea manipulates and throws faerie fire
"Treacher!" spat my godmother. She rose up from the ground, blackened and burned, her fine dress in tatters about her waist, her body and limbs stretched, knobby, and inhuman. She clenched her hands into fists at her sides, and the fire from the building around us seemed to rush down, gathering in her grasp in a pair of blazing points of violet and emerald light. "Treasonous, poisonous child! You are mine as your mother swore unto me! As you swore!"
"You shouldn't make contracts with a minor!" I shouted back, and shoved Michael forward, into the rift. He wavered for a moment on the narrow opening, and then fell through and vanished back into the real world.
"If you will not give me your life, serpent child, then I will have your blood!" Lea took two huge strides toward me and hurled both hands forward. A thunderbolt of braided emerald and violet power rushed at my face.
I hurled myself backwards, at the rift, and prayed that it was still open enough to let me fall through. I extended my staff toward my godmother and threw up whatever weak shield I could. The faerie fire hammered into the shield, hurling me back into the rift like a straw before a tornado. I felt my staff smolder and burst into flames in my hand as I went sailing through.


Grave Peril Chapter 6, Page 51-52
Changes: Lea throws energy beams at Chitchen Itza

And I threw it all at the second Lord from the left - the one whose will seemed the least concrete. He staggered and made a sound that I'd once heard from a boxer who'd taken an uppercut to the nuts.

With that, the last Lord of Outer Night to enter the temple - the one wearing the mask I had seen once before, when Murphy had sliced it from its owner's head - raised her hands and sent ribbons of green and amethyst power scything through her apparent compatriots.

The blast killed two of them outright, with spectacular violence
, tearing their bodies to god-awful shreds and spattering the inside of the temple with black blood. All of the remaining Lords staggered, screaming in surprise and pain, their true forms beginning to claw their way free of the flesh that contained them.

My godmother, too, discarded her disguise, flinging the gold mask at the nearest Lord as she allowed the illusion that concealed her true form to fade away, taking with it the clothes and trappings that had let her insinuate herself among the enemy. Her eyes were bright, her cheeks flushed. Bloodlust and an eager, nearly sexual desire to destroy radiated from her like heat from a fire. She howled her glee and began hurling streaks and bolts and webworks of energy at the stunned Lords of Outer Night, spinning power from her flickering fingertips even as they brought the force of their wills and their own sorcery to bear upon her.


Changes Chapter 48, Page 518-519
The flexibility of the paradigm of a Sidhe noble tends to vary with the person as much as their Court.
So we see with Lea here, second most powerful noble of the Winter Court.

And its not her alone. The Redcap is a skilled broad-spectrum combat shapeshifter, despite it seemingly having no relevance.


The Essence of Things​
18th of February 2007 A.D.
COMMENTARY
Ooh, thats useful.
Admittedly it does seem to only be used in rituals.
But for a wizard, being able to guarantee success in a ritual by spending a mote of Essence is a pretty major deal.

I wonder if he can do the Essence = Faith conversion for donating motes to Lash.
Regardless, Bob is going to have All The Questions.

It does imply that we might well run into Nephandi with Awakened Essence.
Just to make our life extra-spicy.
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You know I'm not sure the white court king was even infected by outsiders and he got fucking magic immunity. Wonder wtf an outsider infected harry could of gotten.
Its an Investment.
You can get that sort of Investment by trading with a sufficiently powerful god, or spirit, or Yama King.
You deal with that sort of thing by not casting magic directly at the target.

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Given that this can be taught lets just say a lot more wizards than normal are going to be interested in what he has to say about the future of the Council.
@DragonParadox
QUESTION:
Since this can be taught, to who can it be taught? Wizards only? Or Path sorcerers? What of Shih?
Red Court and Black Court sorcerers?
Because that has implications, both ways.

Both for things Molly can teach her people, and potential upgrades to the OPFOR

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Just a reminder that for all Harry uses a lot of Evocation, his real specialty is Thaumaturgy, it's just usually too slow to be useful given the timeframe of his usual cases.
The ability to use that in the time frame of a Case File is a colossal bonus to his capability.
^^^
For example, finding Margaret Angelica Rodriguez-Dresden suddenly becomes significantly easier.
 
I mean, the method he uses to get Essence relies on Arete, so it probably requires you to have an Arete score to learn.
 
@DragonParadox
QUESTION:
Since this can be taught, to who can it be taught? Wizards only? Or Path sorcerers? What of Shih?
Red Court and Black Court sorcerers?
Because that has implications, both ways.

Both for things Molly can teach her people, and potential upgrades to the OPFOR

=====

^^^
For example, finding Margaret Angelica Rodriguez-Dresden suddenly becomes significantly easier.

Harry can teach it to mortal wizards. That is not to say everyone else is inherently barred from Essence, they may have some other way of doing it, but he cannot teach them.
 
Not entirely true. At least with the Leanansidhe.

Grave Peril: Lea manipulates and throws faerie fire
"Treacher!" spat my godmother. She rose up from the ground, blackened and burned, her fine dress in tatters about her waist, her body and limbs stretched, knobby, and inhuman. She clenched her hands into fists at her sides, and the fire from the building around us seemed to rush down, gathering in her grasp in a pair of blazing points of violet and emerald light. "Treasonous, poisonous child! You are mine as your mother swore unto me! As you swore!"
"You shouldn't make contracts with a minor!" I shouted back, and shoved Michael forward, into the rift. He wavered for a moment on the narrow opening, and then fell through and vanished back into the real world.
"If you will not give me your life, serpent child, then I will have your blood!" Lea took two huge strides toward me and hurled both hands forward. A thunderbolt of braided emerald and violet power rushed at my face.
I hurled myself backwards, at the rift, and prayed that it was still open enough to let me fall through. I extended my staff toward my godmother and threw up whatever weak shield I could. The faerie fire hammered into the shield, hurling me back into the rift like a straw before a tornado. I felt my staff smolder and burst into flames in my hand as I went sailing through.


Grave Peril Chapter 6, Page 51-52
Changes: Lea throws energy beams at Chitchen Itza

And I threw it all at the second Lord from the left - the one whose will seemed the least concrete. He staggered and made a sound that I'd once heard from a boxer who'd taken an uppercut to the nuts.

With that, the last Lord of Outer Night to enter the temple - the one wearing the mask I had seen once before, when Murphy had sliced it from its owner's head - raised her hands and sent ribbons of green and amethyst power scything through her apparent compatriots.

The blast killed two of them outright, with spectacular violence
, tearing their bodies to god-awful shreds and spattering the inside of the temple with black blood. All of the remaining Lords staggered, screaming in surprise and pain, their true forms beginning to claw their way free of the flesh that contained them.

My godmother, too, discarded her disguise, flinging the gold mask at the nearest Lord as she allowed the illusion that concealed her true form to fade away, taking with it the clothes and trappings that had let her insinuate herself among the enemy. Her eyes were bright, her cheeks flushed. Bloodlust and an eager, nearly sexual desire to destroy radiated from her like heat from a fire. She howled her glee and began hurling streaks and bolts and webworks of energy at the stunned Lords of Outer Night, spinning power from her flickering fingertips even as they brought the force of their wills and their own sorcery to bear upon her.


Changes Chapter 48, Page 518-519
The flexibility of the paradigm of a Sidhe noble tends to vary with the person as much as their Court.
So we see with Lea here, second most powerful noble of the Winter Court.

And its not her alone. The Redcap is a skilled broad-spectrum combat shapeshifter, despite it seemingly having no relevance.



COMMENTARY
Ooh, thats useful.
Admittedly it does seem to only be used in rituals.
But for a wizard, being able to guarantee success in a ritual by spending a mote of Essence is a pretty major deal.

I wonder if he can do the Essence = Faith conversion for donating motes to Lash.
Regardless, Bob is going to have All The Questions.

It does imply that we might well run into Nephandi with Awakened Essence.
Just to make our life extra-spicy.
====

Its an Investment.
You can get that sort of Investment by trading with a sufficiently powerful god, or spirit, or Yama King.
You deal with that sort of thing by not casting magic directly at the target.

===

@DragonParadox
QUESTION:
Since this can be taught, to who can it be taught? Wizards only? Or Path sorcerers? What of Shih?
Red Court and Black Court sorcerers?
Because that has implications, both ways.

Both for things Molly can teach her people, and potential upgrades to the OPFOR

=====

^^^
For example, finding Margaret Angelica Rodriguez-Dresden suddenly becomes significantly easier.
I mean I know how to deal with the white king that doesn't mean general immunity to magic doesn't blow this reward out of the water. Given most mantles we see wouldn't beat that kind of bullshit power the white king got I never expected anything even a tenth as good lol. Essence is still pretty damn cool especially with what dp just told us lol.
 
Say could harry learn any of the shit eb pulls with the essence he just got? Like his volcano trick or something or his blatantly superior shielding?
 
If he were to just put all his essence and a willpower into making as much fire as he can? Six successes at DC 9? I'm going to have to check to be sure but I think that is the point at which he could do a fair impression of that satellite strike Ebenezer used with pure fire. He is probably never going to need as much fire as he can theoretically conjure now.
So, my guess is that gravity manipulation he does in canon now graduated to "conjure black holes".
Funny thing, Harry now can learn Awakened Eye of the Dragon. He would still need to go through a ritualistic contest against Porter but if he wins he can get a dice pool bonus for certain actions and potentially an additional power.
He doesn't need to mooch off our Dragon Nest. He has Demonreach. Which is a terryifying thought, really. Because Harry now should be able to attune manses and artifacts.
 
Say could harry learn any of the shit eb pulls with the essence he just got? Like his volcano trick or something or his blatantly superior shielding?
He could also learn Ancient Sorcery which has enough options even at terrestrial level for upgrading your soak. It's not that good in Exalted, against Exalted, but in WoD it should be a very nice option to have - Skin of Bronze for example is 4 soak for a day.

The best things Essence gives him is options for covering weaknesses that most wizards have - getting taken by surprise and being very squishy - and being able to pull off bullshit feats of magic in a pinch.
 
He could yes, but he is still limited by his spheres, his experience in shaping complex magic. Putting more successes in will get him more of what he can already do, but if he wants better shielding he has to understand how those shields work.
thats totally fair offhand two questions what sphere would you call devastate a township with dakka that eb can pull or trigger a volcano whenever I damn well please in spheres? Oh and uh is it at all possible for harry to break sphere 5 to sphere 6 in stuff for this quest somehow?
 
Harry can teach it to mortal wizards. That is not to say everyone else is inherently barred from Essence, they may have some other way of doing it, but he cannot teach them.
Interesting.
Im guessing Molly might be able to figure out how to do it to other people without using an Infernal Charm.
Thats probably a major project in its own right, but worth the benefits for someone with a literal planet of sorcerers.

Meantime, Im guessing we should expect enemy Awakened Essence users.

I wonder how badly dear Marcus is feeling right about now.
The current sequence of events is not going to make for a great yearly evaluation when his manager calls him in. :V
I wonder if he's going to be incentivized to go double or nothing, or to fold his cards
I mean I know how to deal with the white king that doesn't mean general immunity to magic doesn't blow this reward out of the water. Given most mantles we see wouldn't beat that kind of bullshit power the white king got I never expected anything even a tenth as good lol. Essence is still pretty damn cool especially with what dp just told us lol.
Nah. This is vastly superior to the immunity to mortal magic investment that Lord Raith got.
VASTLY superior.
As in, Harry could make a talisman that confers most of the benefits that Raith got.

And this is not theory; Madrigal Raith had a pair of bracelets that blocked wizard magic during his duel in White Night.
 
He could also learn Ancient Sorcery which has enough options even at terrestrial level for upgrading your soak. It's not that good in Exalted, against Exalted, but in WoD it should be a very nice option to have - Skin of Bronze for example is 4 soak for a day.

The best things Essence gives him is options for covering weaknesses that most wizards have - getting taken by surprise and being very squishy - and being able to pull off bullshit feats of magic in a pinch.
I'd rather he get like armor or something for that instead since its likely more cost efficient. And hes never gonna beat us in durability so why would we want that specifically? Also in fairness eb has stuff thats actually more exceptional than a lot of ancient sorcery not all of course just he has examples like fuck that town in particular spells he has whether through satellite or volcano.
 
Interesting.
Im guessing Molly might be able to figure out how to do it to other people without using an Infernal Charm.
Thats probably a major project in its own right, but worth the benefits for someone with a literal planet of sorcerers.

Meantime, Im guessing we should expect enemy Awakened Essence users.

I wonder how badly dear Marcus is feeling right about now.
The current sequence of events is not going to make for a great yearly evaluation when his manager calls him in. :V
I wonder if he's going to be incentivized to go double or nothing, or to fold his cards

Nah. This is vastly superior to the immunity to mortal magic investment that Lord Raith got.
VASTLY superior.
As in, Harry could make a talisman that confers most of the benefits that Raith got.

And this is not theory; Madrigal Raith had a pair of bracelets that blocked wizard magic during his duel in White Night.
horse shit dude being able to tank all mortal magic is far far better there's no argument you can make on this omg. This is a win but comparing the two is dumb just no. Permanent passive immunity is not normal and not something we could do.
Ach-spheres are bad and hard to implement I'd rather not get into that.
totally fair though that does mean relegating him outside most combat with us but that was already a thing we were doing occasionally so not a problem.
 
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Can Learn Supernatural Martial Arts up to Terrestrial
What do our martial arts from the sanctuary count as?
Interesting.
Im guessing Molly might be able to figure out how to do it to other people without using an Infernal Charm.
Thats probably a major project in its own right, but worth the benefits for someone with a literal planet of sorcerers.
Thankfully, we already have a fae lord running such a project for us.
 
Also in fairness eb has stuff thats actually more exceptional than a lot of ancient sorcery not all of course just he has examples like fuck that town in particular spells he has whether through satellite or volcano.
Counterargument - Rain of Spiders.
I'd rather he get like armor or something for that instead since its likely more cost efficient.
Nothing stops you from combining Skin of Bronze with armor. Or even enchanted armor. Harry will never be as durable as Molly but he doesn't need to - he just needs to be durable enough to stay alive. Minimally enchanted armor plus Skin of Bronze is easily 7 soak. Add a martial art or a spell on top of it and you get a very respectable defense.
 
He could also learn Ancient Sorcery which has enough options even at terrestrial level for upgrading your soak. It's not that good in Exalted, against Exalted, but in WoD it should be a very nice option to have - Skin of Bronze for example is 4 soak for a day.

The best things Essence gives him is options for covering weaknesses that most wizards have - getting taken by surprise and being very squishy - and being able to pull off bullshit feats of magic in a pinch.
Eh.
Mages already have Better Body rotes. He can give himself better soak, or more HLs, if he hits the books and works on his Life Spheres. Or even his Entropy Sphere.

Ancient Sorcery doesnt really give him very much, especially given the cost of Ancient Sorcery spells means that one spell will consume most of his pool.

horse shit dude being able to tank all mortal magic is far far better there's no argument you can make on this omg. This is a win but comparing the two is dumb just no. Permanent passive immunity is not normal and not something we could do.
Being able to tank direct mortal magic, doesnt protect you from indirect mortal magic.
Maggie Dresden Senior demonstrated this with her death curse crippling Lord Raith.
Harry further demonstrated this with magnetism and a bunch of keys.

Doesnt protect you from vampire magic either, as Lara Raith demonstrated to Daddy Dearest.

Meanwhile, someone with Awakened Essence could much easier build something that confers that protection.
Or use it on a ritual to make a contract with spirits to provide that protection.
And they'd still be able to use that Awakened Essence for other uses.

There's literally no comparison.
 
Eh.
Mages already have Better Body rotes. He can give himself better soak, or more HLs, if he hits the books and works on his Life Spheres. Or even his Entropy Sphere.

Ancient Sorcery doesnt really give him very much, especially given the cost of Ancient Sorcery spells means that one spell will consume most of his pool.


Being able to tank direct mortal magic, doesnt protect you from indirect mortal magic.
Maggie Dresden Senior demonstrated this with her death curse crippling Lord Raith.
Harry further demonstrated this with magnetism and a bunch of keys.

Doesnt protect you from vampire magic either, as Lara Raith demonstrated to Daddy Dearest.

Meanwhile, someone with Awakened Essence could much easier build something that confers that protection.
Or use it on a ritual to make a contract with spirits to provide that protection.
And they'd still be able to use that Awakened Essence for other uses.

There's literally no comparison.
I'm unsure there's a immune to direct magic item in existence certainly not as a passive.
 
VOTE
[X] Sophia can heal him, you still need to find the Merlin


It costs Molly motes to take him back to Sanctuary, and it might terminate her shintai.
So have Sophia heal him and bring him along.
If he's still unconscious, we can have Weavers guard him.
 
To be fair?
We know Odin taught the Merlin, and Dresden has canonically seen Odin use magic three times in canon: Chitchen Itza in Changes, Demonreach in Cold Days, and Chicago in Battle Ground.

He was also at ground zero for the throw down between Ethniu, the Erlking, Titania and Odin.
He simply describes it as them throwing Power at each other. Not something unfamiliar, just something beyond him
What do we mean by magic?

I'm not disputing he had supernatural power, or that his particular form is very useful for wizards to observe, just that it's literally mortal magic.

A fire spirit doesn't use forces to blast people even if the effect is the same as a wizard doing so. Odin is just working on more esoteric forces. The description of power isn't meaningful there, because the sight works in terms of supernatural forces and the truth of reality. It's never been an indication that the power he sees in use is of a particular origin. He gives similar descriptions of very inhuman stuff like Angels that are definitely not playing with mortal magic.

Supernatural power used to manipulate reality isn't the same as being a wizard. It's like seeing a boat sail by and claiming steam engines and sails are the same thing.
The flexibility of the paradigm of a Sidhe noble tends to vary with the person as much as their Court.
So we see with Lea here, second most powerful noble of the Winter Court.

And its not her alone. The Redcap is a skilled broad-spectrum combat shapeshifter, despite it seemingly having no relevance.
Faerie fire is specifically not regular fire, and we don't know what those energy beams were. I see your point, but it's not necessarily enough to demonstrate that all powerful spirits are all actually wizards.
 
Awhile ago it was mentioned that exposure to Molly's primordial nature was possibly leading to Harry developing an exotic specialty as a wizard. He's experienced some more stuff since then. Seeing Tiffany's body be made and this jump to mind.

DragonParadox, is he developing something that would express itself as something other than an increase in arete and/or spheres?
 
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Starborn is not another name for the Sidereals.

They have NEVER been called that in Exalted to my recollection, and there is nothing here in this quest so far that in Dresden Files or in World of Darkness. The basic arithmetic would tell you that its not plausible, since there are only around 100 Sidereal Exalts, and we know that ~40,000 Starborn were born in this cycle alone.
Sidereals are called Starborn all throughout their splat book. That's basically their core name:
THE P RIMORDIAL W AR
On average, fewer incarnations separate a Sidereal
from the first mortal to receive her Exaltation, and so, a
few fl ickers of memory reach back to the Primordial War
itself. A few of the Maidens' Chosen say they remember
wondering whether rebellion against the Primordials was
really such a good idea. What could come of slaying the
very authors of Creation?
Still, the Starborn played their roles, and played them
well.
THE GLORIES OF THE FIRST AGE
In the aftermath of the Primordial War, the Starborn
and the newly crafted pattern spiders assumed many of the
Maidens' duties at the Loom of Fate. This duty earned them
their First Age title: the Seers of Heaven, or simply Seers.
Together with the Lawgivers of Creation and the Stewards
of the Wyld, the Sidereals formed the basis of Exalted rule
in the epochs of the First Age.
...
Autochthon could not craft 200 more Exaltations, to bring
the Starborn into parity with the Solars and Lunars. Each
time, the Maidens replied that they had Chosen exactly
the right number for Creation.
THE L OWER HOUSE OF THE DELIBERATIVE
On top of all their other roles, each and every Sidereal
also had the right to sit in the Lower House of the Delibera-
tive. Of course, the Sidereals wielded the least power as a
bloc in the Deliberative; they held only one seat for every
three seats of the Lunars. All too often, the Sidereals' most
potent tactic was mass abstention from any voting at all, to
show they thought their advice was being unjustly ignored.
This kind of solidarity of voting seldom occurred among
any of the other Exalted and partly explains the Sidereals'
nickname as the "Five-Score Fellowship." The Solars and
Lunars intended some measure of derision, but the Starborn
quickly adopted it with a tinge of pride. Sidereal historians
prefer to gloss over the many other instances when the
Sidereal delegation shattered into factions that absolutely
would not compromise at all, and whose members could
bring up an old dispute centuries after everyone else thought
a matter had been resolved.
SIDEREALS DURING THE SHOGUNATE
The Sidereal Exalted spent the fi rst century of the
Shogunate repairing the damage the Sidereals had infl icted
on Creation and themselves. The Exaltations of the slain
Sidereals found their appointed mortal hosts, and the new
Starborn received their training.
etc.
 
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I'm unsure there's a immune to direct magic item in existence certainly not as a passive.
White Night c37-38
Vitto and Madrigal emerged from the Malvoran contingent. Vitto bore a long rapier at his side, and there were a number of throwing knives on his belt, as well as a heavy pistol in a holster. Madrigal, meanwhile, carried a spear with a seven-foot haft, and his arms were wrapped with two long strips of black cloth covered in vaguely oriental characters in metallic red thread. I'd have guessed that they were constructs of some kind, even before I felt the ripple of magical energy in them as he walked with Vitto to stand facing us from thirty feet away.
That knife flickered as it came, and if I hadn't hunched up my shoulder and tucked my face down behind it, the knife might have found the flesh of my neck and killed me. Instead, its tip struck the duster's mantle at an oblique angle, and the weapon skittered off the spell-armored coat and tumbled off on a wobbly arc.
Vitto landed in a tumble, teeth clenched over a scream of pain. His left leg was on fire from the knee down, but he was smart—he didn't stop, drop, and roll. In fact, he didn't stop at all, and it was the only thing that kept my second blast from immolating him. The lance of flame missed him by a foot and momentarily smashed the curtain of falling water behind the white throne into steam. Beside me, I heard Ramirez fling out one of those green blasts.
"Harry!" Ramirez screamed.
I turned my head in time to see Madrigal coming at us from nearly straight ahead, his spear in hand. Ramirez hurled a second shaft of green light at him, but it splashed against an unseen barrier a foot away from his body. Glitters of golden light ran up and down the symbols on the cloth strips wrapped around his arms. I understood, then. Ramirez's second shot had been a demonstration.
"He's warded!" Ramirez snarled.

"Drop back!" I snapped, as Vitto came streaking toward me down the other sideline. He was reloading the gun as he came, dropping the old magazine, slapping a new one in. I lifted my shield bracelet, readying it—then hesitated for a fraction of a second to get the timing just right, gauging angles of incidence and refraction.
Vitto's hand game up and the gun snarled again.
Ramirez shot a look over his shoulder and snarled, "Harry!"
The fingers of my right hand were tingling. I raised it, clenching it into a weak fist. It was good enough to align the rings with my thoughts. "Go!"
Madrigal had worked it out. He thrashed to one side of the trough Ramirez's spell had eaten in the floor, thrust the handle of his spear down into the ultrafine dust, and shoved himself roughly up and out of the sand trap.
But not before Ramirez drew the silver Warden's blade from his hip, the sword designed to let the Wardens of the White Council slice into any enchantment, unraveling it with a single stroke. Carlos drew it, lunged out onto his wounded leg with a cry of pain and challenge, and sliced the willow blade left and right at Madrigal while the spear was grounded and locked into place, supporting him.
The sword cut through the wooden haft of the spear, snicker-snack, which was itself an indicator of just how unbelievably sharp an edge it had to have carried. Luccio did good work. That was just collateral damage, though.
The Warden blade also licked lightly across each of Madrigal's arms.
The black cloth armbands erupted into sudden flame, the embroidered symbols on them flaring into painfully brilliant light, as if the scarlet thread had been made of magnesium. Any construct that held enough energy to counteract the magic of a major-league wizard, especially a combat specialist like Ramirez, had to have been holding all kinds of energy. Ramirez had just cut it loose.

Madrigal stared down in sudden panic at the fire writhing up his arms and let out a horrified scream.
I crouched, clenched my fist a little tighter, narrowed my eyes, and with a single thought released every bit of energy in the rings—what had been left over after the ghoul attack and what I had added later, all at the same time.
The power hit Madrigal low in the belly, at a slightly upward angle. It slammed him from his feet as the fire blazed over his arms, lifted him up over the heads of the gathered Raith contingent like a living, sizzling comet, and slammed him into the cavern wall behind them with literally bone-shattering power.

Broken, bleeding wreckage tumbled limply down.
"And the wizards," I snarled, "pick up the spare."
They arent common, but they do exist in the Dresdenverse.
 
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