Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

We have literally never made a major god before, or seen one made, and yet you think that all you need is a Dragons Nest.
If it was that simple, the Egyptian guy would have left fucking pantheons up and down the Nile Valley and the Mediterranean coast instead of a single malfunctioning robot

You need the Exalted Crafting charm to make a major god. Nowhere did the QM say it was the only thing you needed.

And if you honestly think you are going to make a major god in Chicago, mirror and earthside anchor of Chicago-Over-Chicago and home of the Stone Table, without a metric fuckton of political buy-in, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
In fairness I wouldn't call a city god a major god. Oh way more than a fucking small god but like its no zeus or Odin before he nerfed himself in the nevernever. Not really discounting other shit you said just semantics really. I mean maybe a city god for OUR hells cities would qualify but I don't think chicago would be jack shit compared to the ones I listed before.
 
City gods are easy. Because everything is easy for us. We have never really faced a tasks thata specifically hindered us much.

If we need resources for it, we just go to south america and bag a few dozen lord of the outer nights. We saw how supremely we dominated them how utterly outclassed they are.

Honestly we could go and kill the red king now and it wouldn't be hard if people were just a little less risk averse. We are like essence 4 we should be killing cain and that guy is a god compared to these fucks.

My genuine belif is that every turn we should be removing 1 enemy faction from the board. We have the capability and if we take pro active actions, like black bagging these traitor wizards, instead of letting them engage us on their term, we are almost guaranteed victory.

Like our next action should be to use one of these wizard to summon an outsider, kill it and then ask that for the location of every outsider in the world, then use the wizards corse for every outsider cultists location. Then we use all of pur favour to sick winter and summer on them in a global purger while we kill every hard target trivially like we have in every battle.
 
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City gods are easy. Because everything is easy for us. We have never really faced a tasks thata specifically hindered us much.

If we need resources for it, we just go to south america and bag a few dozen lord of the outer nights. We saw how supremely we dominated them how utterly outclassed they are.

Honestly we could go and kill the red king now and it wouldn't be hard if people were just a little less risk averse. We are like essence 4 we should be killing cain and that guy is a god compared to these fucks.

My genuine belif is that every turn we should be removing 1 enemy faction from the board. We have the capability and if we take pro active actions, like black bagging these traitor wizards, instead of letting them engage us on their term, we are almost guaranteed victory.

Like our next action should be to use one of these wizard to summon an outsider, kill it and then ask that for the location of every outsider in the world, then use the wizards corse for every outsider cultists location. Then we use all of pur favour to sick winter and summer on them in a global purger while we kill every hard target trivially like we have in every battle.
in fairness the location of every outsider in the world would probably change after we asked the question. Also you know some of said outsiders could kick our ass like the one that in universe inspired cthulhu the sleeper is probably above our weight class.
 
in fairness the location of every outsider in the world would probably change after we asked the question. Also you know some of said outsiders could kick our ass like the one that in universe inspired cthulhu the sleeper is probably above our weight class.
I mean we would have a winter attache there to cordinate. The moment we have the location the strikes launch, like a coordinated strike against cartel or something.

Lmao we eat outsiders for breakfast. Being big won't save them, we do an average 15 ag damage a turn. We could literally fist fight space battleships of the Technocracy.
 
I mean we would have a winter attache there to cordinate. The moment we have the location the strikes launch, like a coordinated strike against cartel or something.

Lmao we eat outsiders for breakfast. Being big won't save them, we do an average 15 ag damage a turn. We could literally fist fight space battleships of the Technocracy.
uhhh no there's no fucking way we'd beat the sleeper that thing is definitely above essence 5.
 
If we need resources for it, we just go to south america and bag a few dozen lord of the outer nights. We saw how supremely we dominated them how utterly outclassed they are.
Sure on sort of neutral ground. I would rather not fight them out numbered a few dozen to 1. But it should be too hard to find one out and about. If we can't then forcing them to hide in their holes is also a bit of a win.

Edit: Actually if we don't care about collateral we could just bomb their lairs with artillery.
 
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I wonder how long it'd take our people to reverse engineer nukes if we gave them some. I mean I know reverse engineering is hard but we have magic users that can look at the history of certain items and such and likely advanced scanners I'd think. Now I know that sounds like a horrible idea but there are missing nukes out there that we could just find. Given some of those were probably taken by supernaturals in this setting.

Actually thinking about it do we have lag free internet in our hell? It'd be neat to start a internet company with what our hell has.
 
uhhh no there's no fucking way we'd beat the sleeper that thing is definitely above essence 5.
Easily i bet. Its just a god, we have beaten those beforehand.

Seriously we are deadliest thing in straight combat on this planet. Rememberwe are supposed to be able to kill cain and that dude could solo everythingin this world pretty easily.
Sure on sort of neutral ground. I would rather not fight them out numbered a few dozen to 1. But it should be too hard to find one out and about. If we can't then forcing them to hide in their holes is also a bit of a win.

Edit: Actually if we don't care about collateral we could just bomb their lairs with artillery.
What netural ground. We went into their prepared killing ground and they sprang a god on us and we won.

We could go to machu pichu tomorrow with a full tank and walk out unscathed.
 
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Easily i bet. Its just a god, we have beaten those beforehand.

Seriously we are deadliest thing in straight combat on this planet. Rememberwe are supposed to be able to kill cain and that dude could solo everythingin this world pretty easily.

What netural ground. We went into their prepared killing ground and they sprang a god on us and we won.

We could go to machu pichu tomorrow with a full tank and walk out unscathed.
I'm fairly sure the sleeper probably has their own charms my dude. Also anything? I highly doubt we could beat the mothers. Maybe Mab but I doubt it as dp seems to have boosted a lot of supernaturals here. I mean a non white king non canon elder white court vampire had 7 dot powers and their known generally as the weakest vampires in a fight in canon.
 
Thinking about it angels are allowed to attack back if their attacked by humans right or does that only apply to those on michaels lawn?
 
I'm fairly sure the sleeper probably has their own charms my dude. Also anything? I highly doubt we could beat the mothers. Maybe Mab but I doubt it as dp seems to have boosted a lot of supernaturals here. I mean a non white king non canon elder white court vampire had 7 dot powers and their known generally as the weakest vampires in a fight in canon.
Nah i genuinely think this. All we would really need to beat the mothers would some item we make that stabilized reality around us, as a perfect effect. Should be easily done.

We punked that vamp too and the dragon, so thats irrelevant.
 
Your Exalted Supremacy underwear is showing again.
Someone will have you nuked while you try. Or simply foul the ritual up and keep on doing so till you get the goddamn picture. Or take the opportunity to do shit elsewhere that you have to respond to.

This is not free real estate, and other people have legitimate concerns about your doing magical megaprojects on the same world that they live upon and have interests in.
We would have much the same reaction if someone else started remodelling the Vegas seal, or tried to renovate around Demonreach.
The same way someone systematically nuked Kemmler's disciples attempting to do Darkhallow? The same way someone nuked Kemmler when he created a god-ghost of a pigeon species? The same way someone nuked us when we made Tiffany, who is definitely at least on the level of the city god in terms of impact?

Don't kid yourself. It is free real estate. And we are not as helpless as you are trying to portray.
Solars can also craft phantasms which are also modeled as gods, emanations are considerably more demon-coded but other than that just completely agree.
They are identical except for the fact that ephemera get demonic flavored spirits, while everyone else gets ghostly/spiritual flavored spirits.
I would argue that the difference is more scale and having a master for Emanation, but ok, the difference between spirit and god is a minor one. I will point out that for all we know, Egyptian pantheon is exalted-made. We don't know.

Nah i genuinely think this. All we would really need to beat the mothers would some item we make that stabilized reality around us, as a perfect effect. Should be easily done.

We punked that vamp too and the dragon, so thats irrelevant.
The mothers have been strongly implied to be three Maidens in a trench coat. We aren't beating celestial incarna on our own. Not easily at the very least.
 
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a literal dying god who might I add was on earth and had been used by red court for possibly thousands of years as a resource.
We have also gotten stronger.
The mothers have been strongly implied to be three Maidens in a trench coat. We aren't beating celestial incarna on our own. Not easily at the very least.
We are tho, we are essentially immune to anything they can do magic wise and once we make the reality stablizer we can just go there and kill them. Sure they can throw armies and stuff at us but we just regain essence from that.
 
a literal dying god who might I add was on earth and had been used by red court for possibly thousands of years as a resource.
If you are talking about Iku-Turso, it wasn't fed on by Red Court. Fomor used it to produce gossamer, but we don't know how damaging the process was for it. We certainly have no indications that it was dying. In Scandinavian mythology it was a god of war. And we fought it deep in NeverNever.
 
Like Fictionfan said,

If Merlin had a Cyberdevil phone we literally could just call his ass. Smh.


[X]Plan Divided Command
-[X]Sanctuary Reinforcements: 2x squads/20x troops + supplies
-[X]Tiffany: Lore of Flesh 5: Soak Agg Damage to Harry: 1 Faith
-[X] Split up again
--[X]Team Namshiel: Molly + Tiffany + Olivia + Carlos + Carlos Wardens + Sanctuary Team 1
--[X]Team Paris: Lydia + Sophia + McCoy + Dresden + Morgan + Team Morgan + Sanctuary Team 2
--[X]Team Mai/War Room: Ancient Mai + Wizards + Sanctuary Team 3
 
[X]Plan Divided Command relevant healer
-[X]Sanctuary Reinforcements: 2x squads/20x troops + supplies
-[X]Tiffany: Lore of Flesh 5: Soak Agg Damage to Harry: 1 Faith
-[X] Split up again
--[X]Team Namshiel: Molly + Olivia + Carlos + Carlos Wardens + Sanctuary Team 1
--[X]Team Paris: Lydia + Sophia + Tiffany + McCoy + Dresden + Morgan + Team Morgan + Sanctuary Team 2
--[X]Team Mai/War Room: Ancient Mai + Wizards + Sanctuary Team 3

Moved Tiffany to Dresden's Paris team. Because they are far more vulnerable, and we are far more sturdy and capable of healing. Plus, I don't want Tiffany to be in direct presence of denarians.
 
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