They have, it's just the largest practical circle is 625, five to the fifth power, and even that does not happen often.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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They have, it's just the largest practical circle is 625, five to the fifth power, and even that does not happen often.
No, you're right. I just misread that.
Which is odd, since I actually was the person who wrote it out.
As for being on the ground, Morgan doesnt get to act for a while yet.
And if they think Resplendent Jade is down, they shouldnt be shooting at her as opposed to the other people who are up and shooting back.
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I think you dropped a power?
5^1 = 5
5^2 = 25
5^3 = 125
5^4 = 625
5^5 = 3125
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Makes sense the only other mass stuff I think they could do with sheer numbers is like rearranging leylines on earth if they tried through sheer quantity and brute force. Given that less group mega project so much as industrialization of magic.
Right 3125 would be the largest remotely manageable sorcerer circle.
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[] STUNT: With steely determination gleaming in her dark eyes and a grimace turning her youthful visage into a snarling mask of contempt aimed at the undead abominations, Lydia steps forward, cupping her hands near her navel while channeling her inner nerd, just like her boyfriend had explained. Through gritted teeth, her loosely bound hair rustling in a non-existent breeze, she shouts, "Kaaa-meee-haaa-meee-haaa!!!" while forcing her Essence to shape and direct a Hunter's Bolt with the full intent to destroy the source of her ire.
Why are you drawing this distinction in the first place? If anything large scale magitech engineering sounds like a strictly superior approach to magical mega projects more than a separate thing entirely.
We're talking about a vampire monster made of death magic. I'm not sure it's wise to bet on it leaving someone alive if it can at all help it. Even if they can't benefit from murder, which would be a little surprising, they're still the type to enjoy doing it.
Honestly, leaving a sorcerer clearly wielding fortune magic alive is probably a tactical mistake regardless of who's fighting them.
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Large scale magitech sounds more like sheer quantity which is of course a quality of its own. But its just bigger numbers and more area in the end at least it usually is.
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kinda like comparing tens of thousands of mortars to one nuke.
We're talking about something like the difference between a bunch of sorcerers getting together to cast nuke on something and actually building a magitech nuclear bomb.
DP's post said they would typically use tech in place of relying on a person, that isn't the same as sacrificing quality for quantity.
And I reiterate, what would us being there have actually done in that situation, even if we went first, we were Ahead in initiative order, we didn't choose to target the warlocks. Despite that being a known quantity, dresden He's the only one who has broken 1 of the laws of magic before, so he would still be the target of that particular rote. So what would our presence have Done there other than made it so one and exactly one extra enemy would be dead. And who knows how many extra white council wizards would die from there their "Compatriots".
There is a give-and-take with these things. Our presence doesn't make this any easier. This is not Dungeons & Dragons. You have to be willing to try and focus on your strategic Objectives, not just completely relinquish a single front and hope for the best. Sometimes that means some fronts aren't immediate Overwhelming victories, but that doesn't mean they're lost the second something happens.
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man can you imagine if we'd had time to deploy like several hundred sorcerers for this?
There were 4x Revenants originally.
1 and 2 are dead, 3 is down to 2/7, and 4 is full health.
Ergo, Lydia hits Revenant 4 which has the highest HP, with an alpha strike that will probably OHKO it.
And leaves Revenant 3, which is on 2/7 Health to anybody else to shoot it.
Like the other 2 Weavers.
While Sophia should prioritize taking down Peabody, who is both the leader and appears to be the strongest/most skilled mage on the other side. Someone who can fuck with Dresden's head remotely is not to be underestimated.
Putting him down has the highest impact on this fight
Lower priority than Deputy Warden Commander Donald Morgan, who is currently at almost half health.
That 1 HP from Howl of Healing gives him an additional buffer against damage.
The context of the question was about what happens to those that choose final death. As to whether those who follow Molly as a religion die permanently when on Earth is a question. We don't know. We know that spirits return to Sanctuary. What happens to mortals in unknown. As you yourself mentioned, Sanctuary is an afterlife. Them returning there is plausible.
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It's a valid stunt.
In absence of irrefutable proof that they come back the only sane assumption is that they definitely won't absent our intervention. Not just in the general sense but in the actionable planning one.
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Well, I'll definitely vote for whoever uses it.
Molly will be upset she missed Lydia's first Kamehameha.
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In fairness we probably should be given the opportunity to buy a charm that lets us take the souls of those pledged to us. You know same way yama kings can.
What? Why? We don't know. That's the thing. We don't know what happens to them. Them returning to the wheel is as reasonable as anything else - Molly's worldsoul is an afterlife, we know that.
What I'd be more concerned about is all the mechanics and fluff about it being specifically for members of that tribe. Were I ST, my ruling would be along the lines of "It affects Molly, her clones, her family, her citizens, and probably Lydia and Tiffany but nobody else". Needing clear, deep bonds of long term affiliation, not just alliance like we have going on with the wizards
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We know the white god shut down all the other afterlives which is why we'd need to ask for special permission in the first place.
As to why; when dealing with safety critical system you can't just assume things will go well if you don't spend time and money making them do so. I don't think it's a reasonable assumption that they'll go back, but more than that I don't think it's reasonable to assume anything with lethal consequences will end well by default in any context.
We don't actually know that, and there's really nothing in Dresden Files to support that claim. The gods aren't actually completely disallowed on earth. They just aren't allowed to be there and be immortal. Odin himself is still gathering people to his afterlife. Hades might still be gathering people in to his afterlifes. We just don't know. We do know people are still passively ending up in the 1000 and regular hells though.
Not to mention the white God is essentially in charge of 2 of the largest afterlife destination. The celestial bureaucracy and the Silver City. While possibly operating the largest reincarnation engine as Brahma.
Never mind that it'd be really hypocritical. Given the near myopic Focus on free will they have to not let people choose their own afterlifes.
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