Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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You do yes, you can drain it as a free action.
Yes, the Lords of Outer Night tend to me made of Bad sadly.
Well Usum is suggesting incinerating this false lord in the flames of your wrath and thereby proving your puissance to the Council of the Wise. Take that as you will.
It's one of the deadliest things in and out of existence, but then so are we.
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We dont have the vampire versión, but we have shintai 2 instead.
Kemayo
A Certain Cheerful Tone Of Voice
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- Missouri
So... Arianna was the daughter of the Red King. Carlos gendered the voice as "he". Is this the Red King himself? Or "just" the king speaking through one of the Lords of Outer Night?
In terms of "looking good for one's allies", showing up and beating up an unexpected Lord of Outer Night to save a highly credible group of witnesses would probably count.
Well, if there is a good time to reveal our unbound eschaton shintai at, that would be it.
Who wants to duel a giant bat?
But a one on one duel gives us a good chance of alpha striking the thing, and we tend to melt everything that we alpha strike.
We also just got a new shintai in case it really goes bad.
Who wants to duel a giant bat?
But a one on one duel gives us a good chance of alpha striking the thing, and we tend to melt everything that we alpha strike.
We also just got a new shintai in case it really goes bad.
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That makes sense… I forgot about that
Please explain, I am not sure I understand the following things:
1) How is this different from a duel? Is the duel not to the death?
2) What does Death Curse mean in this context? Sorry, I don't understand. Is it a curse that will trigger when we kill it (ie death curse in the sense of Dresden Files)? What is stopping us from using Shadow Spite Curse to stop it?
Because it involves you, Carlos and Sophia finding and killing it. You are both on the dragon and the dragon has an inherent power to enter the Nevernever
This is just a curse that kills the people linked to this particular monster.
Or... vampires are not really obliged anymore than anyone else to only call daughter or son those whom they have welcomes into their new forms. Twisted as the Red Court are they are capable of emotions or maybe just adoptions of a political kind when a childe is displeased with their sire and the sire is... busy with the vampiric equivalent OD-ing
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Hmm. A bunch of wizards who need therapy, I see.
I have to wonder if it was Molly's gate that gave us away, or the wizards throwing a fuckhuge magical attack at the sky.
Gonna note that February 18 is one day after the new moon.
There's no moon in the sky unless it was produced magically.
Might be better to say that the stars went out.
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The Red King is on the field.
Either physically, or at least Dominating some mook as his local eyes and ears; Im assuming he took Morgan making him run away last year a little personally. Called it that in the Red Court's backyard, they can move troops a lot more freely
We have onscreen confirmation that the Reds are aware that Molly is the person who disappeared Arianna Ortega and her entire entourage. The wizards now have it from the Red King's mouth as well.
Which might well put them in mind of which other things she has done and kept quiet about.
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Talk instead of attack is an implicit admission of...if not weakness, disadvantage by the Red Court.
If they thought they could fight or catch Molly, the Red King wouldnt be giving away that he detected her.
Kukulcan is offering to feed one of his lieutenants to the murder blender that is Molly Carpenter.
I have to wonder why, especially since news of Avalon has gotten out; the poor sucker being volunteered certainly isnt going to be doing so willingly.
Options are killing a political opponent, trying to stall to gather force, trying to get tactical intelligence, or trying to tire Molly out before jumping her.
Or all of the above.
Issue here is that its the Red Court.
They routinely lie, cheat and ruleslawyer whenever they can get away with it; we just caught their King lying here to our face right now. We cant really trust a thing that their upper castes tell us without double checking.
Certainly with no external witnesses you can expect them to cheat shamelessly.
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But the fact that he's probably lying doesnt really change the calculus about whether we should take the duel.
If they put a Methuselah-equivalent within swords-length of Molly with no mobs, its going to die.
We may have no Essence left at the end of the fight, but it will die, and with the Amazon right there, Molly can leave at will.
OTOH, Im pretty sure that we cannot pin down Kukulcan; we can find him easily because Sophia has the appropriate Gifts, but this is his backyard, and Im pretty sure he can run faster than we can pursue.
Especially since he can throw meatshields in our path. And we dont have that much spare mojo.
Besides, this isnt our primary goal. And letting people distract us is probably a bad idea.
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Id be willing to risk Alex on a duel with a Lord of Outer Night; they're our specialized tracker and murderblender clone, and they can throw almost as many attack dice as Molly can. Im less willing to risk Sophia; she's no slouch, but its not really her specialization.
So any duel would have to be Molly.
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Note that if Kukulcan's risking one dude for a duel with the godkiller, it does mean that there's at least three Lords of Outer Night here in addition to the Red King himself. Because the untrustworthy expect treachery, and never show all their hand.
Safe bet is that there's four of them; one for each wizard on Morgan's team.
There are canonically 13x Lords of Outer Night.
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1) How many people can Sophia carry in dragon form? What prevents her simply picking up all the wizards and flying out of the ambush region? She easily has the strength to move a thousand pounds of people, but I dont know if she has the space to lift all the wizards here. And she has no TK.
2)Doesnt figuring out that Kukulcan can kill people whose blood he's tasted recently count as a supernatural secret?
Or the blood magic Warden's use of vampire blood as a magic modality?
Because it should proc Essence regen by +2 motes.
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- She could carry all of them with a feat of strength, needs 4 successes
- They would.... one moment
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I really doubt a Lord of Outer Night is more powerful per se than Iku-Turso was. More cunning, skilled and tactically minded? Sure, but not above that tier where we are still more likely to win.
There are witnesses around we are trying to impress with our power and honor (because that translates into trustworthiness in the supernatural world). Politically speaking, it's expedient to only cheat once the other side has gotten caught doing it first. Or if we start losing and actually need to, of course.
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I mean, Morgan canonically would've killed the Red King in open field, surrounded by his army, if he hadn't fled like a little bitch. And Morgan's already killed a Lord in quest with only temporary damage. And Morgan's here with backup, explicitly to hunt Lords.
So there has to be more than one Lord here, or at least a metric shitload of mooks to try and drown the Warden kill-squad in bodies. But while mooks can take on Wardens with numbers because humans are unfortunately fragile, the same can't be said for Molly. I just can't tell what's the trap for Molly here in accepting this duel, because it sounds too good to be true.
So there has to be more than one Lord here, or at least a metric shitload of mooks to try and drown the Warden kill-squad in bodies. But while mooks can take on Wardens with numbers because humans are unfortunately fragile, the same can't be said for Molly. I just can't tell what's the trap for Molly here in accepting this duel, because it sounds too good to be true.
Pretty good in a duel.
The issue isnt the one Lord of Outer Night being offered in a duel, its the other Lords of Outer Night that are also here, who will cheat in their favor, either during the fight, or after its over and they think you're tired.
And potentially the Outsiders.
Attrition is something the Reds have been known to use.
And if the Red King is here, even if by proxy, there's more than one Lord here.
Thats canon.
She was the Red King's bloodline, and sire of her husband Paolo Ortega(killed by McCoy in Death Masks) and of Bianca StClaire(killed by Dresden in Grave Peril).
Notably, Bianca is the person/sire who infected Susan.
*checks again* Thats not how its supposed to work. Your Strength rating shows what you can do by default.
You only roll if your Strength isnt sufficient for the task and you want to add Willpower to your default Strength, so you roll WP and add the sux to your Strength rating to determine its rating for the task.
Susan in warform is >Strength 11, which means she can lift 2000 pounds.
She can lift them no problem; the question is if she's long enough to fit five people on her back.
So she's got 12/18 Essence.
That makes me more inclined to take the free kill of a Lord and deal with the inevitable double cross.
Oh right, misread the table, sorry.
Yeah, she is large enough, though someone would have to set near the base of the til and hang on for dear life.
So we should definitely do the duel. While the wizards attempt to unravel that blood curse. We will need to be smart about how we spend our essence because we are probably going to need to use shintai, but there are things we can do leading up to the fight that can prepare us to not have to spend Essence in it to prepare ourselves.
By Rage Recast Essence Roll No cost gives us flight and agg lasts the whole scene
All Things Betray 1 Willpower adds our Perception to our Initiative Roll and lowers the difficulty of perception rolls by 3 so if it's not an actual duel we can spot the Trap way easier and if it is a duel we can almost certainly win the initiative roll even this vampire has Elder Celerity.
As a Lord of Outer Night and Elder Vampire/ Methuselah equivalent he probably has either one or two Doses of Bloated with the Blood of Nations ( 7 - 14 extra health levels) and possibly other goodies built in (Crimson King Hypnosis) but we have the defense for those in the form of Impervious Primacy Mantle and Ego-Infused Pattern Primacy.
Though the thought occurs that it might be better use Viridian Legend Exoskeleton (+4 Soak) and Wind-Born Stride (10X speed) now so we're one away from flaring in the fight so the second we use our Melee Excellency we can't be ambushed from behind while we're fighting The Vampire Lord.
By Rage Recast Essence Roll No cost gives us flight and agg lasts the whole scene
All Things Betray 1 Willpower adds our Perception to our Initiative Roll and lowers the difficulty of perception rolls by 3 so if it's not an actual duel we can spot the Trap way easier and if it is a duel we can almost certainly win the initiative roll even this vampire has Elder Celerity.
As a Lord of Outer Night and Elder Vampire/ Methuselah equivalent he probably has either one or two Doses of Bloated with the Blood of Nations ( 7 - 14 extra health levels) and possibly other goodies built in (Crimson King Hypnosis) but we have the defense for those in the form of Impervious Primacy Mantle and Ego-Infused Pattern Primacy.
Though the thought occurs that it might be better use Viridian Legend Exoskeleton (+4 Soak) and Wind-Born Stride (10X speed) now so we're one away from flaring in the fight so the second we use our Melee Excellency we can't be ambushed from behind while we're fighting The Vampire Lord.