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Pitch black. If this was a comic I would suspect that the artist was talking a break.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
It's a trip through the underworld. A lot of ways that could go. Not sure why how bright it is would matter.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Most likely result is we travel the Ebony path (no walking, but we could if we want to spend a mote and flex). In pitch blackness not seeing anything or anyone seeing us. No one goes down the Ebony path to sight see so even in the unlikely event that we bump into someone odds are that we just mutually ignore each other. No one wants to fight on the Ebony path. Also you can't exactly patrol the Ebony path.
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I'm changing my vote.
[X] Translate directly from urban sprawl into the Wicked City, the most magically direct, but it will require you getting on a plane, Chicago does not have any connections
[X] Translate directly from urban sprawl into the Wicked City, the most magically direct, but it will require you getting on a plane, Chicago does not have any connections
OK, looks like we are taking the Ebon Road. Nergui is... very familiar with it.
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- washington
so why the heck did we not use crown questions before going blind into mikaboshis realm? Like come on do we even know where the captive is or where we want to put the plague? Cause now we're going to spend crown questions while there and lose essence.
Arc 12 Post 67: That Souls Might Skate and Wings Might Lie
That Souls Might Skate and Wings Might Lie
28th of January 2007 A.D.
It Hell is a noun, the Absence of God, then the Ebon Road is a verb, the Act of Unclean Feasting. From malicious ghosts and dream eaters, to the Vampires of the Jade Court and the Black the world is filled with all manner of beings once living that now feed upon the dead. When Lydia clears her throat, likely to explain that the Black Court might be of Death they are not the souls of the Dead the old warrior shakes his head. It does not matter he insists, as Below so Above. "The Road is metal and bone and hunger..." a smile touches his bloodless lips. "The Road is a simple thing with no mind to guide it, easily circumvented."
Perfectly in time his 'equine' raises an elegant foot, allowing you to see the steel hoof sharp at the edge like a blade... like a skate. You don't even try to stop the surprised laugh at the sight.
"How does that work though?" Lydia frowns, "I mean horses aren't..."
In response the spirit practically blurs across the street outside the Chicago Synthetics warehouse, moving with speed and grace no equine of flesh and blood could match, while also slicing the concrete in the process, not that anyone beside the fourt of you were looking. Harry had told you of how most people don't want to believe in spirits and magic, but in the case of the spirit horse it is rather more direct meddling. People subconsciously expect souls to be inside bodies, so though long practice it had learned to encourage them to think that it is. The fact that over the last hundred years it had become even more uncommon to see horses on the streets of major cities had only haped.
"I can make the two of us wings," Tiffany cuts in eyeing up Lydia's shoulders as if considering of she's more bird, bat or buterfly. "Faster than learning how to skate and safer as well."
"It is as you say Lady Broken Mirror," the elder agrees with the precise formality of one who has met several Incarnate beings and survived to tell the tale. The name had sounded strange at first, but that is an artifact of being spoken in English you suspect. It feels balanced between truth and flattery in such a way that the speaker cannot be accused of a surfeit of either.
"My Hands will not have any trouble walking on the road," Lydia picks up the conversation, on much firmer ground now. "They have no mind, no self to feed upon and they can follow me by instinct as the needle knows North."
"Wings are going to be hard to hide once we make it to the City though," you muse aloud. "Can you make them look like something he would craft."
Lash makes a face, but nods, but Nergui isn't quite done. "Craft instead in the likeness of the demon shintai in which are woven those sworn to Kakuri-Wan. Let the False Star atop his tower of steel think that this is only the work of his rival even should we be spotted by the least of his servants."
"That is going to take Tiffany the rest of the day I think..." you glance at the Fallen Angel, not wanting to give away that her limitation is how much Faith she can gather and hold to herself. "How do we find the Road? Where does it start?"
"A place of hunger, consumption and death. The Way will be short..."
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29th of January 2007 A.D.
That is how you find yourselves standing outside the empty lakefront property that still you know hid ash under the snow, the place that had held the Velvet Room before Harry had burned it that fateful night, where history was made and before that who knows how many had sacrificed their blood their freedom and at last their lives for the ecstasy of a vampire's kiss. Lydia and Tiffany are both bundled up more than the weather alone would account for, the crumpled forms of false wings growing from their backs.
What do you take with you on the journey to the Wicked City?
[] Just Lydia's Hands
[] A bit of Sanctuary Tech would not hurt
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OOC: This is not something you are doing from one minute to the next here, more what you prepend in the last day. I placed the vote here to maintain momentum instead of having Molly putter around her palace. At the same time I wanted to give you guys a chance to use your resources since I know that was a concern. Hopefully the compromise works out.
You know because Nora told you also because you stole a bunch of his information so it's not like you do not know your way around his realm
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- Germany
That is a good point.
I'm just wary of giving anything unsoakable levels of damage, since default WoD characters have almost universally only 7 health levels.
With good rolls (helped by difficulty-reducers) you could reliably kill a Rank 6 Werewolf, a Generation 5 Vampire or an Arete 8 Mage, with very few tricks in their register having even a chance to prevent it.
That's not always bad, but it does limit what kind of creatures can be meaningful opponents for Molly.
Admittedly, things have probably already escalated to far on the powerscale for that to be a relevant worry. Still something to keep in mind, that we could then kill someone like Arthur Langtry or any other senior wizard without serious permanent self-alterations with a look.
I would expect us to ask at least the precise location of where the prisoner is held and the security arrangements? Maybe also the location which is the most interconnected in the realm (where to deploy the plague for maximum effect)
[X] Just Lydia's Hands
Not sure what else we could take with us that would be more beneficial that too damn dangerous to risk falling into MIkaboshi's hands.
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…do we know what those sworn to Kakuri would bring for raids? Might as well steal good ideas from the guys who keep raiding the place.
Their weapons to assassinate people with and bags to steal treasures in. I know that is vague but it really does depend on what they are doing. For a sabotage mission like you are doing, more or less, they would probably bring some Demon Jade to jam into delicate machinery and watch if blow, but otherwise they are not really heavy on equipment.
I don't want to bring too much of our stuff for him to potentially play with, but some alchemy stuff would be great if we can swing it.
Health potions and a dose or two of body building would be great. I don't think it'll take 6 hours unless something goes wrong, and +2 dots to all our physical stuff is pretty great.
Can we do that in time?
Prefect attacks are effectively that bad by default though. If an Abyssal hits Arthur with Gasp of Dead Gods then he better have a perfect or actually be present by doombot, because that's going to be a positively vile damage roll.
Hell even if he does Abyssals and Solars have the option to buy the ability to pierce them anyway.
In terms of how to fight the murder monster that is an infernal I'd say the tactics are regenerators, chaff, and multi-thrust offensives. That and puzzle boss stuff; technically you can block SBS by hiding behind a plywood wall or tower shield. We need to be able to see them to fire, and once people figure that out, which they inevitably will, there's some plays to be made.
Note that a lot of these tactics are already what you probably want to be doing anyway if you're not capable of playing perfect v perfect games in combat, so there's buffer for factions who haven't learned what's going on to reasonably pick decent tactics in.
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I mean it'd still have been useful.
Then put it in the vote, there is still time to do it and top off your essence.
It's not though as you mentioned other charms would supplement Sinner Boiling Stare I do have to mention Hungry Tiger Technique and Fire and Stone Strike and similar damage adders that work on successful hit. There is no way to avoid getting damaged by A Perfect attack if it hits you because a perfect attack if it hits you can deal three or four times as much damage depending on how much Essence an exalted is willing to sink.
The reason I call it a perfect damage effect and not a perfect attack is because it doesn't work with any on successful attack charms we can't green sun Nimbus flare someone on a successful usage of boiling sinner stare. It just systemically doesn't work like an attack. Never mind the fact that it can just miss and doesn't interact with Damage Adders.
To put it another way in any world where you can just miss with an attack on someone who isn't defending themselves it's not a perfect attack. The failure to deliver damage isn't the point. The fact you can just straight up not hit a Target that isn't defending themselves makes it not a perfect attack.
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What are you talking about?
When it says hit with minimum success it means you hit without bonus damage dice. Then you roll soak like a normal attack.
It's entirely possible, but very unlikely, that you could hit someone and do no damage. You'd have to roll 0 successes to attack and then botch the damage roll but it could theoretically happen.
Things like excellency boosting are part of the traditional use but not the definition. For balance purposes that matters, but a perfect attack is an attack that cannot be actively defended against without a perfect effect. That's it.
SBS cannot miss unless you have a perfect defense; there is not an attack roll to miss on. Botching a damage roll is not the same thing and equivocating them has system implications that aren't true.
Also worth mentioning that the difficulty cap applies here. We'd never roll against more that difficulty 9 here, inhuman stamina would just make it impossible for us to reduce the difficulty to something easy to stack successes against.
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Ok, so, we definitely should ask some questions. I'll assume we have at least three
[X] Plan Last Check Before the Road
-[X] Just Lydia's Hands
-[X] Crown Questions
--[X] Where is Nora's ancestor being kept?
--[X] What are the security measures in regards to Nora's ancestor?
--[X] What are the identities (for the purposes of BMI) of akuma or demons that are allowed within the vicinity of the facility Nora's ancestor is being kept at, who are not present at Wicked City right now?
I am tempted to add "what is Mikaboshi's most embarrassing (in his opinion) secret is that is known to at least one other person" to the list, so we could broadcast it, to add literal insult to literal injury, but that's petty. Might be a fun diversion for the diversion of the hope plague. More seriously, we could also check the location of something valuable within close proximity to Nora's ancestor.
I don't see a reason not to be petty. Maybe we could ask what his childhood nickname was and spread it around to the rebels on the way out the door. That or just give him an cutesy one ourselves and imbed it in insults.
Tagging walls with "Mik the Prik" or "Miki, what would Minnie say about this?" As we run around the city post bombing would be funny.
Can you imagine the credibility damage of being dread lord Miki? People would think Disney launched a gritty remake of the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
If I knew any Japanese at all I'd be tempted to check what sort of puns we could make based on the character composition of his name, but this is about as close as I can get.
So are you saying that you cannot spend both an Essence and a willpower and then fail to do anything to your Target because from what I can see that's exactly what can happen. Considering there's no targeting or attack mechanism usage that means it's not even a perfect damage effect you can just spaff a bunch of your resources to do fucking nothing.
No matter how little damage you deal with Accuracy Without Distance or Gasp of Dead Gods you definitely hit somebody with your sword with your gun with whatever the fuck you chose to hit that person with if you fuck up and roll of sinner boiling stare you know what you just did you wasted a bunch of your fucking valuable resources doing jack and or shit and your opponent didn't have to do anything to defend themselves.
Damage does not make something a perfect attack especially damage that can just not occur after you spend the resources.
Looking at the fluff for a moment, what happens when SBS fails? What does it mean to fail that willpower roll given that it is willpower and not any skill? I would argue it means the Exalt could not muster up enough spite for the charm. Mechanically I agree that you can make the point it's not a perfect attack but stylistically it certainly seems to be in the right ballpark.
Huh, I mean:
I am pretty sure that what Bronze Tongue is telling is that if you roll 0 damages with Accuracy without distance or Gasp of Dead gods, then the result is exactly the same as if you did with SBS, nothing.
*You hit with the sword but did no damage after paying to make the attack perfect* is the same as *you looked at them with SBS and did no damage*. Both cases uses the exact same ressources (the price of the charm), and have the same effect (an attack that cannot be defended against without a perfect defense).
I really don't see why you seem to think that SBS isn't a perfect attack given that.