Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Source Code Compliance Protocol is not Old Realm. Molly knows that without SCCP. SCCP is full-on primordial language, the one that Primordials talked to each other in. Old Realm is a neutered mortalized version of it.
On the bonuses, we have these two separate rulings:
And the baby discussion, where we discussed what an effect of babysitting little Amanda and teaching her Primordial would do:
So, yeah, we definitely should use SCCP for this. It would make things even grander.
OctarineShrike
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[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
It can be painful, but that's not the same as harmful. Setting a dislocated shoulder is painful, as is rebreaking a limb so it can heal straight, and chemo is a real bitch.
But compared to the alternative is it even a contest?
So that takes us into the 28 dice range then, given the difficulty floor ruling.
I can think of few things more harmful than false hope.
[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
I agree with both the sentiment that enough is enough and there is a point where we should stop (and it is somewhere behind us already), and the person who pointed out that trying to involve the swords in this is just begging for the Fallen to try and act about it.
I agree with both the sentiment that enough is enough and there is a point where we should stop (and it is somewhere behind us already), and the person who pointed out that trying to involve the swords in this is just begging for the Fallen to try and act about it.
I do understand what you're saying but it's not really false. What are they going to do torture the souls even more they're already doing as best they can so they can squeeze them out of existence for power. What are they going to do kill them and release them from their suffering, oh no. I dislike using the phrase because of the movements it's been attached to but all they have to lose is their chains. They can't lose their lives they can't be tortured any more than they already are so if the hope is introduced and it isn't true then all it does is make the torturers work for their prey rather than endlessly exploiting them. I feel and I suspect anyone who has any level of success in their fight will feel that even if the hope is false the benefits they reap from it is greater than any pain possibly spared.
The cynic in me says that Mikaboshi's Hell is already all about hope, because it's the hope for advancement/relief/escape that keeps his thralls fighting to clamber up the greasy poll. Ambition to better your position is the driving force that powers his hell. It's the foundation on which the Wicked City is built.
If he survives the initial shock it could easily become something that significantly empowers him, as it stops the inhabitants of his hell giving into despair and giving up, it keeps them spinning their inside their (metaphorical and literal) prayer wheels and generating power for him, so he can exploit them even harder.
Mikaboshi is a modern, efficient Yama King. He makes his subjects torture themselves in the hope that it will profit them, wardens of a prison largely of their own making, and their hope is the walls of that prison.
If he survives the initial shock it could easily become something that significantly empowers him, as it stops the inhabitants of his hell giving into despair and giving up, it keeps them spinning their inside their (metaphorical and literal) prayer wheels and generating power for him, so he can exploit them even harder.
Mikaboshi is a modern, efficient Yama King. He makes his subjects torture themselves in the hope that it will profit them, wardens of a prison largely of their own making, and their hope is the walls of that prison.
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End of a sentence, A should be capital.
Repeats without punctuation.
Should be either 1 or 3, not 2.
I guess that Sanya will be either extremely busy, or already on his way, depending on Heaven's mood.
Which could be taken as a message from them to us.
But we will go and do it anyways.
[X] Yog
BoredMan
Salutations thou who beds thy own mother
The hell gave you that impression?
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[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
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smh not trying to fucking game the system as much as possible. 
[X] Yog
[X] Yog
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BoredMan
Salutations thou who beds thy own mother
I'd like to have him involved as I don't think the Fallen interfering with the Sword of the Cross is very likely but if we are taking three days to make this thing and he'll probably need to take a plane over here I'm not sure there is even time to have him contribute. Better to just leave it I think.
[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
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eh technically we could go to him via our travel by water charm. We don't plan to kill anyone with the sword after all.
BoredMan
Salutations thou who beds thy own mother
The swords can't go into the Five Courts so that'd be pointless. We'd want him over here for the sword even if we wouldn't want to kill anyone with it.
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[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
Let's not get the Game involved in this so that Lucy and friends have the opportunity to make a countermove. We're already hitting the point of diminishing returns anyway, you can only wreck a hell so thoroughly.
Let's not get the Game involved in this so that Lucy and friends have the opportunity to make a countermove. We're already hitting the point of diminishing returns anyway, you can only wreck a hell so thoroughly.
[X] Spread the word only to his closest allies, those he is reasonably sure will not take it ill
Yeah, I don't want the Denarians in on this.
I don't really consider it false just because it's artificially induced.
I don't think an artifact tuned the way this would be is a trivial thing to subvert. We've also got enough people involved that I'd think someone would mention it if "surprise, Yama Kings are so amazing that purpose built FU artifacts will only make them stronger" was a serious concern in any serious timescale.
I expect Mikaboshi to try that and claim it's working, but in the same way Lanka is. Ravana has made something of his misfortune, but it took a long time and he very much hasn't recovered everything he's lost even now.
I don't want to leave him alone forever anyway. If it takes him a century to get stable again he'd be doing well by immortals cursed by major powers standards but still give us time to finish the job.
@DragonParadox could we get Molly and the gang's estimate of Mikaboshi's ability to profit from this?
This opens us to too much interference from third parties and potentially the white God's rules. Better to keep it to less constrained powers.
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I was more thinking of grabbing the sword then taking it with us physically.
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I'mma note I doubt many denarians would poke us without an insane plan. Just grabbing the sword seems unlikely. Also, you know they wouldn't touch us directly because they should probably know in a straight fight we dominate.
Yeah, our main advantage is that by the standards of the setting we are moving way too quickly. In the land of century-long plots, we measure time in months.
It is hard to tell since you would have to know what kind of social control mechanisms he has and how adaptable he is personally, but Molly thinks it would not be easy. This is not carefully measured hope when it is useful, this is unpredictable rampant and infectious hope.
BoredMan
Salutations thou who beds thy own mother
That's even worse. If the Denarians act it'll be when a sword user is without his sword and that's assuming he'd trust us with it.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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The Fallen feel like a lesser problem then the Yama kings. They are tough and using a very strong splat, but they are stuck in coins and there are only 30 of them.
But I doubt that they will be so accommodating as to attack us right now.
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Sword users are without their swords all the time.