Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 201 74.7%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 65 24.2%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 102 37.9%
  • Total voters
    269
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I still want to get a vibe check because the combination isn't very intuitive in the theme combination, and feels a lot more like "We've got three so let's mash them together it's got to be good"
 
Alectai said:
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That's still a Tremendous stretch.

@HeroCooky , could we get a vibe check on this by any chance? Because this really feels like a stretch to me.
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Toboe said:
Agreed on the request for vibe Check.
@HeroCooky
Can Protection make sense in a fighting song (with sun and fire) when the fighting is to protect the general population and the choirs are supporting other troops?
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I already know how to fit these three together, the only question is if you wish to create a Song from these three.
 
HeroCooky said:
I already know how to fit these three together, the only question is if you wish to create a Song from these three.
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Oh boy, I was hoping we'd get something more coherent.

At the end of the day, I think we need to start working at bringing these guys in, and we probably don't want to wait to push the Orks out to start outmaneuvering the arseholes, given how they seem to think us winning means they have more bargaining power, somehow. But knowing that it's actually had some thought put into it means that I won't be pushing against it any further.

I just think it's better to attack this way.

EDIT: I would note that Roks to Traitor doesn't need us to put a Space Marine Squad there, they've got their own transport now. It's kind of wasting a slot.
 
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HeroCooky said:
It's literally 40k magic, it's all based on ~vibes~. I ain't gotta explain shit.
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You're not wrong but also I hate unknown unknowns :( Especially since while I see obvious Sun/Fire synergy, I don't see how Protection helps that much.


But I could be wrong, and the ones advocating it right, we will let the court of public opinion sort it out.
 
[X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system!
-[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
-[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
-[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
--[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
--[X] Medium Engineering Unit
--[X] Medium Assault Unit
--[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
--[X] Celestial Choir
--[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared and transported to the battlespace, including our Expeditionary Force
--[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Doccer on Mar 8, 2024 at 1:50 PM, finished with 57 posts and 16 votes.
  • [X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system!
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
    --[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
    --[X] Medium Engineering Unit
    --[X] Medium Assault Unit
    --[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] Celestial Choir
    --[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared and transported to the battlespace, including our Expeditionary Force
    --[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.
    [X] Plan: Roks to traitors
    -[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists (Destroy the Mega Rok)
    --[X] Task Fleet Alpha (6x Aries-Class Corvettes, 1x Sagittarius-Class Artillery Frigate, 1x Taurus-Class Troopship (0/4 Capacity))
    --[X] (2/2) Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] (1/1) Lamenters Space Marine Squad
    --[X] (1/4) Celestial Choirs
    [X] Plan Rokks and Planning
    -[X] [Military] Enacting The Plan (0/2)
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists (Destroy the Mega Rok)
    --[X] Task Fleet Alpha (6x Aries-Class Corvettes, 1x Sagittarius-Class Artillery Frigate, 1x Taurus-Class Troopship (0/4 Capacity))
    --[X] (1/2) Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] (1/1) Lamenters Space Marine Squad
    --[X] (1/2 Lamenters Space Marine Scout Platoon
    --[X] (1/4) Celestial Choirs
    [X] Plan: Sing me a song of a Rokk that is gone
    -[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song (Choose at least Three below.)
    --[X]Protection I, Fire I, The Sun I.
    -[X] General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
    --[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
    --[X] Medium Engineering Unit
    --[X] Medium Assault Unit
    --[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] Celestial Choir
    --[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared, including our Expeditionary Force
    --[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.
    [X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system! Burn them!
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Profectus said:
Or we can finish stay on course, it gives medical infrastructure and it'd take the same AP.
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The problem is, once the Orks are defeated in the system all the pressure keeping a lid on the grievances and hatred on Corcrat will blow up. Either we have a controlled detonation or we have a very messy civil war that will ruin Corcrat. We can't really afford to delay Betray the Betrayers. Events will happen with or without our input.
 
aceraptor said:
The problem is, once the Orks are defeated in the system all the pressure keeping a lid on the grievances and hatred on Corcrat will blow up. Either we have a controlled detonation or we have a very messy civil war that will ruin Corcrat. We can't really afford to delay Betray the Betrayers. Events will happen with or without our input.
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1 AP betrayers
2 AP stay on course
vs
1 AP betrayers
1 AP stay on course
1 AP medical infrastructure
That's what I meant.
 
[X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system!
-[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
-[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
-[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
--[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
--[X] Medium Engineering Unit
--[X] Medium Assault Unit
--[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
--[X] Celestial Choir
--[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared and transported to the battlespace, including our Expeditionary Force
--[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.

I like this plan well enough. Hopefully Alectai is right and we'll get a bonus action for taking down the Mega Rokk. If not, then hopefully taking control of the system next turn will.
 
The ones that will be on point for taking the Rok down is the Lamenters with their three boarding frigates:

Risen Dirge-Class Boarding Ship
-Length - 1.700m
-Width - 400m
-Acceleration - 5.5g
-Armor - Single Hull
-Shields - Two Emitters
-Weapons - 2x Boarding Torpedoes
-Equipment - Light Teleportarium/Armored Prow/Tuned Shields/Gravimetric Engine Calculations

The role of the Candlekeepers will be to open the way for them to launch the boarding assault and follow up on the beachhead created by the space Marines and ensure that the defenses of the Mega rok is compromised and then the fleet can pound it into rubble after our forces withdraw from the boarding action.
 
Alectai said:
It was good to confirm they were Bad Actors, I'm just pointing out that I want to know what Betray the Betrayers actually entails, because there's been some misunderstandings earlier and I want to make sure everyone's on the same page before I put anything on the table.
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Point. And I missed the Betray The Betrayers option.
Adhoc vote count started by Doccer on Mar 9, 2024 at 1:40 AM, finished with 67 posts and 20 votes.
  • [X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system!
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
    --[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
    --[X] Medium Engineering Unit
    --[X] Medium Assault Unit
    --[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] Celestial Choir
    --[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared and transported to the battlespace, including our Expeditionary Force
    --[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.
    [X] Plan: Roks to traitors
    -[X] [General] Betray the Betrayers (0/2)
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists (Destroy the Mega Rok)
    --[X] Task Fleet Alpha (6x Aries-Class Corvettes, 1x Sagittarius-Class Artillery Frigate, 1x Taurus-Class Troopship (0/4 Capacity))
    --[X] (2/2) Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] (1/1) Lamenters Space Marine Squad
    --[X] (1/4) Celestial Choirs
    [X] Plan Rokks and Planning
    -[X] [Military] Enacting The Plan (0/2)
    -[X] [General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists (Destroy the Mega Rok)
    --[X] Task Fleet Alpha (6x Aries-Class Corvettes, 1x Sagittarius-Class Artillery Frigate, 1x Taurus-Class Troopship (0/4 Capacity))
    --[X] (1/2) Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] (1/1) Lamenters Space Marine Squad
    --[X] (1/2 Lamenters Space Marine Scout Platoon
    --[X] (1/4) Celestial Choirs
    [X] Plan: Sing me a song of a Rokk that is gone
    -[X] [Psykana] Sing a Song (Choose at least Three below.)
    --[X]Protection I, Fire I, The Sun I.
    -[X] General] Stay The Course (4/7)
    -[X] [Military] A Task For Specialists
    --[X] Bring Down the Mega Rokk
    --[X] Medium Engineering Unit
    --[X] Medium Assault Unit
    --[X] Droman Tideswarm Heavy Demolition Unit
    --[X] Celestial Choir
    --[X] All Other Local and Allied Assets that can be spared, including our Expeditionary Force
    --[X] Chapter Master Khyron has overall command, he's the expert in this sort of assault, our folks will back him up as much as they can.
    [X] Plan: I have had enough of these damned Orks in my damned system! Burn them!
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