Even if our various bakemono creation charms don't (and I think they can, but don't happen to have those rules handy at work), Companions of the Hunter explicitly does. Buying it for Lydia would also be useful in general and would maybe involve us not shortchanging her on xp for once (since it would be spending xp on a goal that's explicitly Molly's, not Lydia's)
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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[X] Just another day among the Jade Dogs. Some people would be watching TV, some would be reading or playing
I'll play devil's advocate here - lets demonstrate that we aren't just trying to build a regime or army, but a society which provides the comfort, understanding, support and security to encourage the best (and arguably more human) in its inhabitants/members.
Apologies if this has been answered before and I missed it, but have we explored or considered that Lydia could act as a Psychopomp to guide those mortals born within Sanctuary back into the Wheel of reincarnation should they die on Earth (and presumably want to live again)? As far as we know/understand, is this theoretically sound/feasible, or are their differences in the structure and/or functioning of Sanctuary mortal souls or differing processes in what happens to a soul after death compared to Earth-borne mortal souls which would complicate Lydia drawing upon her experience guiding Earth-borne souls (which presumably she both would need to do, or at least set up a system in order to guide souls from Earth to Sanctuary)?
I'll play devil's advocate here - lets demonstrate that we aren't just trying to build a regime or army, but a society which provides the comfort, understanding, support and security to encourage the best (and arguably more human) in its inhabitants/members.
Apologies if this has been answered before and I missed it, but have we explored or considered that Lydia could act as a Psychopomp to guide those mortals born within Sanctuary back into the Wheel of reincarnation should they die on Earth (and presumably want to live again)? As far as we know/understand, is this theoretically sound/feasible, or are their differences in the structure and/or functioning of Sanctuary mortal souls or differing processes in what happens to a soul after death compared to Earth-borne mortal souls which would complicate Lydia drawing upon her experience guiding Earth-borne souls (which presumably she both would need to do, or at least set up a system in order to guide souls from Earth to Sanctuary)?
Heck the spirit problem in creation proper not in Yu Shan is due to the dragon blooded and the sidereal's because nothing says open corruption is okay like murdering your boss and then murdering your boss's children and then murdering every created people made by your boss and then killing 90% of the population then letting a weird ghost kill 90% of that 10% and then having fairies erase a significant portion of the landmass obviously gods think they can get away with whatever they want in modern day creation and apparently they're right.
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- Germany
In Creation it took a lot of Dragonblooded to keep the mid-sized gods even relatively in line and the greater gods were worse.
We are just one Exalted, we can't personally threaten every spirit acting up.
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- Right Where I Am
[X] Just another day among the Jade Dogs. Some people would be watching TV, some would be reading or playing
I want them to see people just being people rather than our prepared subordinates acting officially. See firsthand that we aren't just building our power up, but are about our people.
I want them to see people just being people rather than our prepared subordinates acting officially. See firsthand that we aren't just building our power up, but are about our people.
We can't and shouldn't expect Lydia to tie one of her very few slots for the companions of the hunter (up to Essence level of animals) to protect our godson. That's for us to do, not her.
Not how emanations work. They are bound to their keystones, and normally exist in a spirit world. They manifest paying Willpower (which is why it's willpower 10 build). Bodyguarding a mortal child (I will only agree with "normal" when I see the child and confirm no magical gift, and only reluctantly even then, given who their godmother is) is exactly what a spirit could do.
If guardian deity of an Order of Cauldron is a viable possiblity, and it is by WoG, then guardian deity for a single child is too. More so, even.
We have different understanding of what a street level is. Check the build again. A spirit that has 12 dice for combat, flight, soaks agg (and has soak 7), and does all defensive combat as -3 DC (because of the merits), while resisting all mind altering magic with +3 DC for the enemy, should be able to handle teams of gunmen and most likely a vampire elder. Dogs can't, and, much more importantly - you can't take dogs to school or to many other places. The designed guardian, on the other hand, can stay with their charge at all times. Medicine dots should allow for first aid too. Perception + awareness/alertness cranked up to literal 11 gives it superhuman senses to detect threats both mundane and supernatural. Athletics 5 + Strength 7 allows it to open doors, clear off rubble, etc to rescue its charge from any cave-in or building collapse or some such. Human hands can do fine manipulation (dexterity 7). Telepathy allows it to call for help and to communicate with its charge. Flight gives it options to flee, again with its charge.
Dogs, even spirit-enchanted dogs, can't compare in utility. They can't be taken to many places. They can't do fine manipulation (so no first aid, or opening doors, or operating an ATM while on the run). They are always manifested. They can't fly or drag their charge away easily.
Normal ones don't. This is a 5 dot custom-designed god. That's a major working. Like, city god of Chicago major (even if such a city god is likely to go into custom build area, with 5 dot build being a nucleus). Everything I wrote is system-legal, and not even cheese, I think.
We also use nannies, and other human servants, and if you have an option to choose between human and an animal, you'll almost always will choose human.
Point is - the designed spirit should be able to provide far greater protection and utility (because it has human hands and great dexterity) right out of chargen, and it time, as they accumulate XP and learn, even more so. While being more stealthy than a dog.
Not how I wrote it, at least, to chime in. While the spirits certainly have a degree of preference, if their housing is destroyed, they'll reincarnate, either in another device, or directly into nooshpere, from where they can choose what to inhabit (choose being a misnomer for below-sapience spirits). At least this is how I wrote this.
To be clear I do not always roll things like the weather, mostly it is a way to make get the feel of time passing, but since certain types of weather give you significant mechanical advantage I am careful do to that when they might come into play. Also if you were fighting someone who would have advantages for certain weather, like a Black Court vampire on a foggy day, I would also roll those more carefully.
That is something which we brought up as a possibility yeah. Lydia is certainly willing to help. She does not know for sure what those souls would do in death though as she has never had any experience with people this divergent. To her sight it is as though earth-born souls are mist and those of Sanctuary are smoke, they should flow the same way, but she cannot be 100% on that
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I think the best way to do this would be for them to act informally when the delegation (or parts of it) go back to Earth. First meeting is formal, then everything is casual. Plus, it plays to WC's expectations.
No family lines of buildings?
We can. Just through diplomacy instead of fighting. And we aren't bad at fighting once we awaken the city god ofnour billion people cities, we can have out gods act as reinforcement if we need to fight a god.
Oh certainly but they are still distinct from one another as family members might be. 'Twins', buildings that are made precisely the same to serve some grander aesthetic or practical point exist as well, but it is difficult to pull off right. Welcome to (a) Hell, where architecture is psychology.
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- Norway
See also all the Westerners who are using climate change as an excuse to make a determination of other people's common good in the form of "stop using airplanes, stop owning a car, stop having your own house, stop heating your apartment, stop building with cement or steel, stop eating meat, you should only buy three pieces of clothing a year" et cetera instead of building nuclear power.
OK I think I might be missing something but are Prodigies terrible. I was reading the section with them again and on top of not having strong themes like Splendors they just seem kind of weak and require a lot of murder not killing in a fight but taking an empty battery to battle with you premeditated murder.
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It's nice that we have a competent and experienced minion now.
He can teach our other minions better minioning.
He can teach our other minions better minioning.
Yes, there was a discussion a couple turns ago when Molly got crafting charm. Besides some possible corner cases it's always better to upgrade existing tech or use Splendors/Arcana than Prodigies.
Solid vote for formal, here we go.
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- Germany
A City God will per definition not act outside its city much.
To make things work smoothly we'd need almost a full divine bureaucracy, which is an unacceptable investment in time and effort to create, even if we somehow manage to make it low-maintenance afterwards.
Remake Incarna (or at least create self-developing seeds that will grow into Incarna), and have them rebuild the celestial bureaucracy?
@DragonParadox could we use a random member of our court as a crown focus to ask what would happen to them if they die while on Earth? Perhaps one of the soldiers sent to Earth? Or does this run into "crown cannot see itself"? Or into "not looking into White God's mind"? If we can't find out via the crown, we might have to resort to asking a volunteer among those prepared for Parting to delay for a moment and die on Earth, to see if they get caught in the Wheel.
Unfortunately it runs into 'cannot see yourself' since you are trying to observe the Wheel among other things.
Would Molly actually want that? Especially considering what a shitshow celestial bureaucracy devolved into?
Also I'm pretty sure anyone above a certain level of power goes under White God rules for gods, spirits and the like - as in behave or accept a lot of limitations and be a semi mortal. And there are all indication that White God is, at minimum, a more competent Primordial.
No Games of Divinity = much better chances of celestial bureaucracy working right.
Essence * 2.
Also, on a meta level, if it gets us to actually spend xp on her, she still comes out ahead.