Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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[X]Plan Yuletide And School Tours: 6+2 AP Available
-[X][School] Attend school
you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class):1 AP
-[X][Investigations] A friend in need.
You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
-[X][Arcane Allies] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate:
Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it: 1AP
-[X][Crafting] NEW A Body Angelic:
Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
--[X] 3 AP(1 AP + 2 Extra AP)
-[X][Family Time] UPDATED Just relax:
It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest: 1AP
-[X] UPDATED So about those studies:
You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm: 1AP
--[X]
Bring Lydia and Olivia
-[X][IF CRAFTING AP LEFT OVER] In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: If you see something you can stick a demon in it. It occurs to you that satellites are definitely something you can see with the right tools, though you are going to have to figure out which ones you want and what orders to give them.
-[X]Free Actions: Monoc Extractions: Contact Monoc for extraction of the family members of Arianna's ex-servitors
-[X]Free Actions: Training: Introduce Olivia to some of the soldiers you are bringing in as initial trainers as per your promise



RATIONALE
School is a given.

3 AP on A Body Angelic.
Given clarification by the QM, we can use Tool Constructs on crafting but not design. So we will need 2AP to be sure that we finish the design portion, but only 1 AP to finish the actual crafting.

The 1AP that the new QM ruling frees up goes to sending Daniel, Lydia and Olivia on a school tour in So About Those Studies.

A Friend In Need because these are the last two months of Rosie's pregnancy, and we want to spend time with her during this difficult time.Dreaming True allows us to get her to improve her personal mental defences, in case someone tries to come at us through her like what happened to Dresden's associates in Grave Peril.

Thats also why I dont want to move her from her family home until after she's given birth.
Thresholds come with their own protections.

Family Time because its Christmas, and we havent spent time with family just chilling for months now.
We need to do this.

Introducing the Fivefold Courts allows us to spend time screening the White Council delegates for unwanted influences, and to act as an interface between the two sides to make sure everything goes smoothly.
 
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At least the cannibal isn't around here anymore. Progress?

All the ghouls working for us:

Totally. :ninja:

[] UPDATED Contact the Librarians: Given that you are the sovereign of an interdenominational magical nation it might be worth having a talk with a branch of the federal government that is aware of magic, the one that didn't introduce itself by trying to frame Harry right in front of you.

Personally, I would've loved to introduce our truth to Daedalus, but the library said they would work on them, so I don't think they would be as funny to mess with anymore.

[] NEW A Body Angelic: Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
-[] Write in number of AP assigned

Absolute priority, the sooner it's done, the less time Lash spends truly vulnerable, the more time we have to work with her and show her we were sincere.

[] NEW Prodigious Artefact: Whether it be for Daniel or some other 'mere' mortal caught up in the world of vampires, warlocks sorcerers and demons you've had a thought for a working... a ring perhaps to grant a power both flexibile and strong
-[] Write in number of AP assigned
[] UPDATED So about those studies: You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm

One of the two, no questions, we had problems already putting him for latter, let's not do that again.

[x] Yog
 
We want our only Dragon Nest in perfect working condition. And it's connected to Porter, who just swore fealty to us.
Nah. We'll tell Porter before we do it, but we're doing the animation at home.
I wouldnt want to risk trying this outside a friendly and defended Dragons Nest.
A five dot Arcana is a tempting target for a heist, let alone Lash herself.
 
VOTE
[X]Plan Yuletide And School Tours: 6+2 AP Available
-[X][School] Attend school
you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class):1 AP
-[X][Investigations] A friend in need.
You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
-[X][Arcane Allies] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate:
Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it: 1AP
-[X][Crafting] NEW A Body Angelic:
Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
--[X] 3 AP(1 AP + 2 Extra AP)
-[X][Family Time] UPDATED Just relax:
It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest: 1AP
-[X] UPDATED So about those studies:
You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm: 1AP
--[X]Bring Lydia and Olivia
-[X]Free Actions: Monoc Extractions: Contact Monoc for extraction of the family members of Arianna's ex-servitors
-[X]Free Actions: Training: Introduce Olivia to some of the soldiers you are bringing in as initial trainers as per your promise



RATIONALE
School is a given.

3 AP on A Body Angelic.
Given clarification by the QM, we can use Tool Constructs on crafting but not design. So we will need 2AP to be sure that we finish the design portion, but only 1 AP to finish the actual crafting.

The 1AP that the new QM ruling frees up goes to sending Daniel, Lydia and Olivia on a school tour in So About Those Studies.

A Friend In Need because these are the last two months of Rosie's pregnancy, and we want to spend time with her during this difficult time.Dreaming True allows us to get her to improve her personal mental defences, in case someone tries to come at us through her like what happened to Dresden's associates in Grave Peril.

Thats also why I dont want to move her from her family home until after she's given birth.
Thresholds come with their own protections.

Family Time because its Christmas, and we havent spent time with family just chilling for months now.
We need to do this.

Introducing the Fivefold Courts allows us to spend time screening the White Council delegates for unwanted influences, and to act as an interface between the two sides to make sure everything goes smoothly.
Can you include another action in your plan to cover the extra AP we'll have if crafting Lash's new body only needs 2?

[X] uju32
 
oh, so its powering Porter?
I dont think so. Porter, and spirits like him, has an independent existence
My understanding is that what we're exhausting is the potential to empower a new Arcana
Can you include another action in your plan to cover the extra AP we'll have if crafting Lash's new body only needs 2?

[X] uju32
My understanding is that it needs 3AP.
Still, sure why not.

I'll include the []Satellites action, in case we have extra AP to spend. Thats narratively and mechanically fairly straightforward.
 
It seems reasonable ,and the only real way to keep all our promises (need more AP!)
What we should've done was not bother bringing Daniel into the fray at all. Exposing him to more danger and getting rid of his Angelic protection when we have better people to spend time upgrading for combat purposes. Then we would have more AP.
[X] uju32
 
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Nah. We'll tell Porter before we do it, but we're doing the animation at home.
I wouldnt want to risk trying this outside a friendly and defended Dragons Nest.
A five dot Arcana is a tempting target for a heist, let alone Lash herself.
Using our Dragon Nest is still not viable - the Last Station is actually powered by magically generated electricity. Exhausted Dragon Nest = no power. Far better to use some other Dragon Nest.
What we should've done was not bother bringing Daniel into the fray at all. Exposing him to more danger and getting rid of his Angelic protection when we have better people to spend time upgrading for combat purposes. Then we would have more AP.
Wasn't actually the choice. It was "he goes off on his own" or "we give him so

One of the two, no questions, we had problems already putting him for latter, let's not do that again.
I would like to make the power ring very much, but we don't actually have a soul to power it. And I'm not willing to destroy dragon nests.

Still, that's an option for later.

EDIT: I added Lydia back into my vote. So, I think mine and Uju's votes are essentially the same, but I am not introducing Olivia to soldiers we bring in, rather focusing on bringing her into the courts.
 
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Wasn't actually the choice. It was "he goes off on his own" or "we give him so
We had a chance to convince him otherwise but the majority decided not to. As DP said going out into the NeverNever on a journey for power was Lydia's last resort they likely would've tried other things before then at the very least and like I said we had the option to explain how bad that could go to sway them.

It wasn't as black and white as you make it seem at all.
 
[X]Plan Yuletide And School Tours: 6+2 AP Available
-[X][School] Attend school
you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class):1 AP
-[X][Investigations] A friend in need.
You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
-[X][Arcane Allies] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate:
Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it: 1AP
-[X][Crafting] NEW A Body Angelic:
Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
--[X] 3 AP(1 AP + 2 Extra AP)
-[X][Family Time] UPDATED Just relax:
It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest: 1AP
-[X] UPDATED So about those studies:
You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm: 1AP
--[X]
Bring Lydia and Olivia
-[X][IF CRAFTING AP LEFT OVER] In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: If you see something you can stick a demon in it. It occurs to you that satellites are definitely something you can see with the right tools, though you are going to have to figure out which ones you want and what orders to give them.
-[X]Free Actions: Monoc Extractions: Contact Monoc for extraction of the family members of Arianna's ex-servitors
-[X]Free Actions: Training: Introduce Olivia to some of the soldiers you are bringing in as initial trainers as per your promise
 
[X] uju32

We gotta keep our promise and extract those family members from Mexico. There's the added bonus of that probably freaking the Red Court out even more, as they'll have literally no idea what the hell happened to Arianna. Considering the plane's gone too I doubt they could pull off any postcognition to see what just happened, and their only hope is going to Winter (lol) who probably saw a chunk of what happened through the veil.

I kinda wanna know 1) the White Council's reaction to the Red King's daughter taking the L, and 2) the Red Court's reaction to one of their head honchos being disappeared like they disappear mortals on the regular.

On the sliding scale of fist-fight in a Denny's parking lot to White Court Party Catastrophe 2: Electric Boogaloo, I'm hoping that they crit-fail their reaction/composure roll :drevil:
 
@Yog Please add the free action for Monoc Extraction to your vote like Uju did if you don't mind. I get that you don't want to do the other free action but getting those people out sooner rather than later just incase for only a monetary fee seems reasonable.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Oct 9, 2023 at 11:05 PM, finished with 53 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X]Plan Yuletide And School Tours: 6+2 AP Available
    -[X][School] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class):1 AP
    -[X][Investigations] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
    -[X][Arcane Allies] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate: Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it: 1AP
    -[X] NEW A Body Angelic: Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
    --[X] 3 AP(1 AP + 2 Extra AP)
    -[X][Family Time] UPDATED Just relax: It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest: 1AP
    -[X] UPDATED So about those studies: You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm: 1AP
    --[X]Bring Lydia and Olivia
    -[X][IF CRAFTING AP LEFT OVER] In the Sky a Thousand Eyes: If you see something you can stick a demon in it. It occurs to you that satellites are definitely something you can see with the right tools, though you are going to have to figure out which ones you want and what orders to give them.
    -[X]Free Actions: Monoc Extractions: Contact Monoc for extraction of the family members of Arianna's ex-servitors
    -[X]Free Actions: Training: Introduce Olivia to some of the soldiers you are bringing in as initial trainers as per your promise
    [X] Plan All Obligations Fulfilled in Time for Christmas
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] NEW A Body Angelic: Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
    --[X] 3 AP: 1 base + 2 malcoffee
    -[X] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate: Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it
    -[X] UPDATED So about those studies: You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm
    --[X] Take Olivia with you too, to keep your promise. Residents of the Courts should be more familiar with training spirit-blooded.
    --[X] Bring Lydia too
    -[X][Investigations] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
    -[X] UPDATED Just relax: It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest
    [X] Plan It is a season of gifts
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] NEW A Body Angelic: Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
    --[X] 4 AP: 2 base + 2 malcoffee
    -[X] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate: Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it
    -[X] UPDATED So about those studies: You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm
    --[X] Take Olivia with you too, to keep your promise. Residents of the Courts should be more familiar with training spirit-blooded.
    -[X] UPDATED Just relax: It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest
 
Using our Dragon Nest is still not viable - the Last Station is actually powered by magically generated electricity. Exhausted Dragon Nest = no power. Far better to use some other Dragon Nest.
1)No, you are mistaken.
The Last Station is powered by magically generated electricity from the ley lines . Its an interaction between Porter and the leylines themselves: I quote:
As for the work on the station itself most of the work you do this month is on the electrical grid so people without uncanny senses can walk around unhindered. It costs a good fifteen thousand dollars to fix the wiring, though in exchange you realize what has been powering the sickly lights you had found when you first stumbled over this place... Porter himself. An elemental moving around near a crossing of the Dragon Lines is a bit like a moving a magnet though an electrical field, not that it causes a current exactly, more like it's a proto-spell, a kind of shaped magic that is sensitive to will, in this case to the will of Adam and his gang as well as others who lingered around the station. Since they did not neat more than the poor and flickering lighting that is all they got.

Lost 115,000 Dollars (Jade Dog payment+rewiring the station)

That now raises the question of how you want to power the place, you could let it work off of the ley line as it had, there is more than enough power in here, but you worry about how safe it is to have the inhabitants define the lighting parameters when one of those inhabitants is a baby. On the other hand a generator would provide reliable power without any wibbly wobbly magic, but you would lose the chance to study the pattern which had converted the power to the ley lines to electricity. You could also get Harry in here to see if you can preserve the arcane lighting in some rooms while using a generator in others, but while you have no doubt he'd do it something tells you he would balk at being paid for his time and he already has so much to worry about.
Thats why Molly speculated about powering Dresden's home with an artificial ley-line shunt.


2) Dragons Nests in WoD =/= Dragons Nests in the Dresden Files .
To use an analogy? A WoD caern/Dragons Nest/node is a well, or a wellspring, or a pool.
A Dresdenverse Dragons Nest/Node/Nexus is generally a confluence of two or more rivers.

As I understand it, you can temporarily exhaust whatever potential charges a Wonder in a Dresdenverse node.
You cant exhaust the Dragons Nest itself.


3) Carrying shit as valuable as a Fallen's Shadow in a mobile construct and a 5 dot Arcana into an unsecured Dragons Nest is spectacularly ill-advised. The Arcana alone is the mystical equivalent of an eight-figure sum of cash even before its charged.
Lash is worth far more.

That just sounds like walking through the middle of downtown St Louis at night with a transparent duffelbag of $100 bills.
A lot of entities would try for a smash and grab if they could.
I wouldnt risk it.
 
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@Yog Please add the free action for Monoc Extraction to your vote like Uju did if you don't mind. I get that you don't want to do the other free action but getting those people out sooner rather than later just incase for only a monetary fee seems reasonable.
Wait, what? I thought I had that. One minute. Goddamn it. Done. Sorry about that.
2) Dragons Nests in WoD =/= Dragons Nests in the Dresden Files .
To use an analogy? A WoD caern/Dragons Nest/node is a well, or a wellspring, or a pool.
A Dresdenverse Dragons Nest/Node/Nexus is generally a confluence of two or more rivers.

As I understand it, you can temporarily exhaust whatever potential charges a Wonder in a Dresdenverse node.
You cant exhaust the Dragons Nest itself.
We have to ask, because, to use an analogy, if a Dragon's Nest is like a lake, we would be temporarily draining it, and then waiting for it to refill from the rivers that flow into it.

@DragonParadox what exhausting a Dragon Nest at Last Station would do to Porter and how it would affect the power generation of Last Station?
3) Carrying shit as valuable as a Fallen's Shadow in a mobile construct and a 5 dot Arcana into an unsecured Dragons Nest is spectacularly ill-advised. The Arcana alone is the mystical equivalent of an eight-figure sum of cash even before its charged.
Lash is worth far more.

That just sounds like walking through the middle of downtown St Louis at night with a transparent duffelbag of $100 bills.
A lot of entities would try for a smash and grab if they could.
I wouldnt risk it.
The alternative is to use one inside our soul.
 
Wait, what? I thought I had that. One minute. Goddamn it. Done. Sorry about that.

We have to ask, because, to use an analogy, if a Dragon's Nest is like a lake, we would be temporarily draining it, and then waiting for it to refill from the rivers that flow into it.

@DragonParadox what exhausting a Dragon Nest at Last Station would do to Porter and how it would affect the power generation of Last Station?

The alternative is to use one inside our soul.

Porter would become sleepy since it is the high magic environment that allows him to be as active as he is, how sleepy Molly is not sure, but she is confident it will not hurt him in the long run.
 
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