Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Which is why we'll be spending time on her in January, not december.
Need more than that for a pregnant teenager whose boyfriend is dead.
And especially if they have a magic talent that makes them mentally vulnerable.

Cauldron predates Molly, yes, but Molly basically claimed them as hers. Molly being a member of the organization changes the whole paradigm and what they need to respond to and prepare for and be protected from.
You are focusing entirely too much on home defense for people who dont spend all their time at home.
The spectrum of threat is not materially affected by our improving their wards; they have to go out, to work, to shop, to visit people.
Thats where you invest in relocation funds, warning items, safehouses and fast response forces.

You dont proliferate minor gods around the place. Especially at places that are often rented.

Again the first time a Gate was opened an entire world was brought into existence on the spot. It was probably a shitload noisier the first time than it will be every other time "merely" opening a Gate.
The White Council didnt say they heard a Hell being born though, just a gate being opened.
It may be that subsequent openings will be quieter.
But we dont know that, or whether other bad guys can hear even better than the White Council

I'd still like to go after Sandra, if we could fit it in.
Someone who's probably a Nemesis-plant and worked directly against Molly and Dresden should not be allowed to run free indefinitely.
January, I think.
I dont think Molly can spare the AP right now, not with everything else she has going on.

Yeah you could roll that in there. And if you want to keep our promise yes, this turn would be the last in which you can do it since it is December.
Arent we bringing people here this month?
I thought thats why we had Thomas arrange for those 10x IDs.

@uju32 does A friend in need not cost AP? Because by my count you have 9 in your plan.
A Friend in Need is the supercategory for Dreaming True. Like this
[]A Friend In Need
-[]Dreaming True
 
People are forgetting about the promise they made to extract the families of the vampire victims.
That should also be a part of this vote.
Probably send some of our empire after them?

Iris should've enough information to brief operatives.
 
People are forgetting about the promise they made to extract the families of the vampire victims.
That should also be a part of this vote.
Probably send some of our empire after them?

Iris should've enough information to brief operatives.
We been told that we can just hire mercs to get em out for 0 ap. Would cost a resource dot for the month tho.
 
Also, we should probably address Helen Beckett problems. It can lead to some terrible consequences...
Also, I urge you not to forget that establishing ties with the White Council will invite Black Council's spies and sleeper agents to Molly's world.
 
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People are forgetting about the promise they made to extract the families of the vampire victims.
That should also be a part of this vote.
Probably send some of our empire after them?

Iris should've enough information to brief operatives.
It is a part of my vote. I am outsourcing to Monoc Securities. They should be able to handle extraction fo a couple of mortals from hostile unstable territory.

You are focusing entirely too much on home defense for people who dont spend all their time at home.
The spectrum of threat is not materially affected by our improving their wards; they have to go out, to work, to shop, to visit people.
Thats where you invest in relocation funds, warning items, safehouses and fast response forces.

You dont proliferate minor gods around the place. Especially at places that are often rented.
DragonParadox proposed an alternative - an Order of Cauldron guardian deity, probably bound to said Cauldron. An emanation arcana, probably a 4 dot one (maybe 5 if we can do it). With Hedge Magic merit, if I have anything to say about it, so it can combine all the powers of all the Order members.

Need more than that for a pregnant teenager whose boyfriend is dead.
And especially if they have a magic talent that makes them mentally vulnerable.
She's in a stable-ish situation right now. Next turn, when we can afford it, spend time with her. Synergy it with Oxford and preparing to move out (which I will be pushing to be a start of "design our above-ground base", not "rent a flat").

Anyway, I added Olivia to Daniel's action. It seems reasonable ,and the only real way to keep all our promises (need more AP!)
 
To be honest, I think Rosie is much better off moving to the Courts and receiving an arcane education there with staff to help with her child.
 
Isn't it 2 ap for lash's body with ttc?
@DragonParadox, this is a good point. Could you tell us how much, if any, TTC helps with either designing or making the artificial body? The charm text says
The Infernal can work five times faster than normal when creating, modifying, or repairing something, or ten times faster than normal if it's something complicated and mechanical like a car or computer. Generally this Charm enhances Crafts or Technology actions, but might also apply to coding a program with Computer, creating explosives with Science, or preparing a meal.
There's an argument to be made that the body we are making is complicated and mechanical, but even barring that, it should be 5X speed boost. The range of applications includes coding, which is a primarily mental exercise (programmers aren't limited by keystrokes per second, they are limited by how quickly they can think and design something), so it should be applying to the design phase as well.

We would still be limited by resources (namely, Dragon Nest recharge rate and monster souls) in most cases, so I don't think it's too unbalanced for the charm to work as written.
 
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You are, but those are not going to be trainers, they are going to be primarily soldiers. They would not be the best at training Olivia.
Thats good enough.
They dont have to be the best, they just have to provide a headstart on everything.
Next month, we can start taking her to the Courts with Daniel.

Besides, Olivia is apparently both a college student and dancer.
Its not like she can just leave Chicago for a several month bootcamp.
DragonParadox proposed an alternative - an Order of Cauldron guardian deity, probably bound to said Cauldron. An emanation arcana, probably a 4 dot one (maybe 5 if we can do it). With Hedge Magic merit, if I have anything to say about it, so it can combine all the powers of all the Order members.
That would require, at a minimum, significant social work beforehand with Cauldron.
I suspect Anna Ash's reaction to Bane is going to be common.
Remains to be seen how that works out.

She's in a stable-ish situation right now. Next turn, when we can afford it, spend time with her. Synergy it with Oxford and preparing to move out (which I will be pushing to be a start of "design our above-ground base", not "rent a flat").

Anyway, I added Olivia to Daniel's action. It seems reasonable ,and the only real way to keep all our promises (need more AP!)
1)She's in a physically stable position. Mentally and magically, could use significant work.
And Molly is her only living friend that we know of.

2) I dont have any interest in moving out unless we're going to Boston

3) I should add the Monoc thing as a free action to my plan.
Its probably a good idea not to have Olivia in the Brass Courts at the same time as the White Council delegation, though.
 
@DragonParadox, this is a good point. Could you tell us how much, if any, TTC helps with either designing or making the artificial body? The charm text says

There's an argument to be made that the body we are making is complicated and mechanical, but even barring that, it should be 5X speed boost. The range of applications includes coding, which is a primarily mental exercise (programmers aren't limited by keystrokes per second, they are limited by how quickly they can think and design something), so it should be applying to the design phase as well.

We would still be limited by resources (namely, Dragon Nest recharge rate and monster souls) in most cases, so I don't think it's too unbalanced for the charm to work as written.

You know I did not think of that, it does work on coding... OK yeah you get the x5 on any craft roll. Maybe Holden planned to nerf tool charms but I have no way of knowing that unless and until he gets the whole book up.
 
You know I did not think of that, it does work on coding... OK yeah you get the x5 on any craft roll. Maybe Holden planned to nerf tool charms but I have no way of knowing that unless and until he gets the whole book up.
I'd only apply tool-charms to mundane crafting unless it was explicitly mentioned that it worked on enhancing Craft-charms somewhere.

But then I'm pretty much against generous interpretations in general.;)
 
3) I should add the Monoc thing as a free action to my plan.
Its probably a good idea not to have Olivia in the Brass Courts at the same time as the White Council delegation, though.
Brass courts are five billion large, and are very magically active. No way WC will notice her.
You know I did not think of that, it does work on coding... OK yeah you get the x5 on any craft roll. Maybe Holden planned to nerf tool charms but I have no way of knowing that unless and until he gets the whole book up.
The nerf / limitation is in resources. TTC doesn't affect the rate of Dragon Nest recovery, and it doesn't generate elder vampire souls (well, it does, but those require us to use Dragon Nests to make, and are limited by their recharge rates).

So, this is both design and making, correct? Ie we are making five rolls per week. So, Lash should be doable with 1 AP for design / creation, and 1 more AP for animation (because we'd need to look for and liberate a Dragon's Nest, and that's an adventrure), correct?
 
Huh.
That ruling probably saves us 50% of the AP.
So 1 normal AP + 1 extra AP.

Need to go look at my plan again.
Split the difference and add Rosie to the vote? Add one extra AP to Daniel's turn, and take Lydia too, so she can visit city of Endings. This way we basically handle every obligation.

[X] Plan All Obligations Fulfilled in Time for Christmas
-[X] Attend school
you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
-[X] NEW A Body Angelic: Having vowed to make the best body you can for Lash you you will not shirk the challenge, body and soul forged in geomantic alignment to bear a shard, a face of angelic lore twice taken. May it come to a better end than the last time
--[X] 3 AP: 1 base + 2 malcoffee
-[X] NEW Introducing the Fivefold Courts of Fate: Even though you do not strictly speaking have to be present to shepherd around the White Council fact finding and diplomatic mission it would make a good impression to do so and you are sure Harry would appreciate it
-[X] UPDATED So about those studies: You promised your brother a chance to look around the Five Cities, perhaps to study from some of the warriors or magicians of that realm
--[X] Take Olivia with you too, to keep your promise. Residents of the Courts should be more familiar with training spirit-blooded.
--[X] Bring Lydia too
-[X][Investigations] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
--[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (2/10 progress ): 1AP
-[X] UPDATED Just relax:
It's Christmas time, a time of gifts and laughter, joy and peace on Earth. While you have not yet managed the last bit you can at least do the rest
-[X] Free Actions: Monoc Extractions: Contact Monoc for extraction of the family members of Arianna's ex-servitors
 
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So, this is both design and making, correct? Ie we are making five rolls per week. So, Lash should be doable with 1 AP for design / creation, and 1 more AP for animation (because we'd need to look for and liberate a Dragon's Nest, and that's an adventrure), correct?
Why can't we use the dragon nest we already have?
 
Brass courts are five billion large, and are very magically active. No way WC will notice her.

The nerf / limitation is in resources. TTC doesn't affect the rate of Dragon Nest recovery, and it doesn't generate elder vampire souls (well, it does, but those require us to use Dragon Nests to make, and are limited by their recharge rates).

So, this is both design and making, correct? Ie we are making five rolls per week. So, Lash should be doable with 1 AP for design / creation, and 1 more AP for animation (because we'd need to look for and liberate a Dragon's Nest, and that's an adventrure), correct?

Just the crafting itself, the design is spiritual as much as mental and involves as much talking to Lash to see what she needs as it does Molly putting on her thinking cap.
 
Brass courts are five billion large, and are very magically active. No way WC will notice her.
If she is a unique magical signature in a sea of others?
She might very well stand out.
Same with Lash. Which is one reason I want the Lash project done well before they show up.

Split the difference and add Rosie to the vote? Add one extra AP to Daniel's turn, and take Lydia too, so she can visit city of Endings. This way we basically handle every obligation.
I have this niggling feeling that Christmas is not any sort of time to be starting training anything.
But other than that, I dont really have a strong objection there.
 
Just the crafting itself, the design is spiritual as much as mental and involves as much talking to Lash to see what she needs as it does Molly putting on her thinking cap.
Hmm, ok. I'll drop Lydia then, and this should be enough, I think. 1 AP + 2 bonus AP. Or would Lydia also be a free addition to Daniel's vote? On one hand, she'd probably want to go too, both to accompany Daniel, and to look for educational prospects of her own (she was interested). On another I feel that I might be overstretching your generosity here.
If she is a unique magical signature in a sea of others?
She might very well stand out.
Same with Lash. Which is one reason I want the Lash project done well before they show up.
Why would she? Her magic is that she's hard to notice. She's not a creature of darkness, yes, but detecting a minor talent (with said talent being entirely focused inwardly and producing "notice me not" effect) thousand kilometers away, in a middle of a magically active megapolis? A talent that they have no idea exists? No, that's ridiculous. And even if they notice her, so what? They don't know who she is, and we are free to have anyone we want over. This is not a problem. At all.
Why can't we use the dragon nest we already have?
Animation:
Animation: To bring her creation to life, the Exalt enacts a ritual or technical procedure lasting
(Arcana's rating) hours, during which she imbues it with (Arcana's rating x 5) points of her own
Essence. Finally, she connects the Arcana directly to the power of the Dragon Nest it was created
in, making an Intelligence + Occult roll against difficulty (4 + Arcana's rating) to properly
channel and protect the connection. The Dragon Nest is then exhausted of its power. If the roll
succeeded, the Nest will recover after (Arcana's rating) weeks. If the roll failed, the Nest will
recover its power after (Arcana's rating) months. If the roll botched, the Nest's power is

permanently consumed.
We want our only Dragon Nest in perfect working condition. And it's connected to Porter, who just swore fealty to us.
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Need to redo the math.
1 base AP + 2 bonus AP should be more than enough. Crafting is more demanding, requiring 20 successes. Design is only 15 successes, and it's an Occult roll.

So, something like half an AP for crafting, 1.5 AP for design (to be safe) and 1 AP for animation.
 
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