Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I care because Molly the 18 year old American Catholic daughter of a Paladin of (the White) God would care IC about flensing some dead person's head for ritual components. Because her family and (some of)her friends and allies would care. I care because it makes her life a lot more difficult when we swandive straight into Mengele-adjacent shit with the slightest encouragement.

I care because it makes it difficult to object to others doing the same thing.
Keeping real skulls around is what most counter-culture teens like Molly would find cool even if it didn't have very real benefits.

I mean, the basis of our crafting system is using the remains of powerful beings, so we won't get around the essence of using corpses anyway, might as well go the whole way and own the aesthetics too.

[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[X] Leave the head, would you? I might need a new mantlepiece
 
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[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[X] Leave the head, would you? I might need a new mantlepiece
 
Actually, let's do exactly that. Please cite deals made inder the same level of duress as "I kill your friends of you don't agree" that Dresden, or, hell, anyone else in the series both agreed to, and didn't backstab / avenge themselves on the perpetrator later. We have fulfilled our obligation to a tee. It's perfectly within Dresdenverse polite professional decorum to backstab BS now, or reveal how we screwed hom over completely.
 
So she wasn't lying about that bit after all after all/More worthy to die by your sword that I assumed Magnificent Sun Who Knows no rival, you and Usum think at the same time as the vampire matches impossible mind bending swiftness against all of your skill and comes out the better, vaulting backwards, half jump half glide.
@DragonParadox : Does learning that she had in fact drank godblood count as a supernatural secret?
 
Keeping real skulls around is what most counter-culture teens like Molly would find cool even if it didn't have very real benefits.

I mean, the basis of our crafting system is using the remains of powerful beings, so we won't get around the essence of using corpses anyway, might as well go the whole way and own the aesthetics too.
I think I can safely disagree with that.
Ive actually been at autopsies and dissections(not the same thing, btw, at least not for the medical students I knew).

Teens finding skulls on shirts and belts as cool, is very much not the same thing as actually having to process the real deal yourself.
Or keep it around.Besides, she isnt a blank slate. We actually know what Molly is like in canon; she doesnt have a fondness for any of that. Do recall that she was (was) a sensitive.
Actually, let's do exactly that. Please cite deals made inder the same level of duress as "I kill your friends of you don't agree" that Dresden, or, hell, anyone else in the series both agreed to, and didn't backstab / avenge themselves on the perpetrator later. We have fulfilled our obligation to a tee. It's perfectly within Dresdenverse polite professional decorum to backstab BS now, or reveal how we screwed hom over completely.
Provided at least three instances on the previous page.

Quintus Cassius was threatened into dropping his Coin in Death Masks. Susan Rodriguez traded a year of her memory for Dresden's health when he was poisoned in Grave Peril. Dresden was paralyzed and going to die when he made the deal to be Winter Knight with Mab.

Backstab?
Dresden's deal with Lea against the Nightmare in the graveyard in Grave Peril, which he immediately tried to renege on, cost him Amoracchius, and ended up as why he had to go to Bianca's party.

And he's done his best to avoid breaking his word since, even when Nicodemus was offering him a Coin at the point of a blade.

Whatever it is that governs the Rules in-universe dont appear to care.
 
Actually, let's do exactly that. Please cite deals made inder the same level of duress as "I kill your friends of you don't agree" that Dresden, or, hell, anyone else in the series both agreed to, and didn't backstab / avenge themselves on the perpetrator later. We have fulfilled our obligation to a tee. It's perfectly within Dresdenverse polite professional decorum to backstab BS now, or reveal how we screwed hom over completely.
Avenging yourself and immediately taking a stab are different things.

In any case the moral details of the situation change nothing about the fact that Broken Seeker would have to be stupid in a way he's definitely shown himself not to be to come up here without a plan. He's been looking for the knife since we showed up, our surprise attack would be about as obvious as throwing a gauntlet at his face and challenging him to broadswords at dawn.

Suppose this thread was playing out BS' side of this arc. Given what he knows, the resources he has, and the things he's shown himself willing to do what sort of prep would we perform before going on a trip with an infernal exalt who wanted us dead?

Fighting him now and expecting his only opposition to be brawl rolls is basically assuming he won't defend himself.

If we want to actually kill him without subjecting ourselves and whoever he's also targeting to whatever bullshit he's cooked up we need to take a dedicated hunting action and hit him while he isn't prepared to manage us.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Sep 20, 2023 at 4:22 PM, finished with 145 posts and 29 votes.
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[X] Leave the head, would you? I might need a new mantlepiece

We are Exalted, it is only a matter of time before he becomes our pet monster.
 
Edits done, Molly is at 10/15 Essence
Okay, in order:


VOTE
[X]Plan Blackbeard
-[X] Go in first in order to draw fire and make sure your ally does not get too enthusiastic
--[X] Tell cyberdevils to implement blackout of plane from airport radar, plane communications and flight transponder
--[X] Command Wings of Spite to climb and depressurize plane to incapacipate/incommode mortal passengers and crew rapidly and drop internal temperatures to ambient external temperature
--[X]In turn over 2 turns: Steelskin(1m) + VLE(1m) + ATB(1m) + HC(1wp) + Occult Excellency(1m) + MHM(1m): 5m, 1wp
--[X] Mind-Hand Manipulation to rip open rear door for entry
--[X] Activate Melee Excellency inside the plane when combat begins
-[X] STUNT: "Taking point. All points, black out the plane on a count of ten" you say curtly as you begin a steep descent, passing through a moist cloud that warms your brazen skin as the light of your soul blooms into incandescent life, casting green illumination around you even as you stoop upon your target. An effort of will, and you rip the rear entry door bodily out of its frame, sending it spinning into the night in the planes wake as you alight at the opening. A quick pause to breathe a brief prayer as Dark Sun unfolds on your arm, then you are inside the plane, the brass sun glowing on your brow and eyes staring out of your anima banner.



RESOURCES SPENT
14-5m = 9wp
8-1wp = 7wp

ACTIVE EFFECTS:
Anima Power: Surprise negator
Speed potion: x2 speed for the scene
Antivenom potion: Immunity to Red Court venom

Impervious Primacy Mantle: Immunity to mind and emotion-affecting magic for the scene

Without Honor (Above 10,000 feet, temp is subzero): +2 dice to all rolls while in cold-based environmental hazards
Transcendent Anathema: Agg damage
Windborn Stride: x3 base movement speed

Scar-Writ Saga Shield: -1DC to soak rolls.

Boiling Sea Mastery(Diving through cloud): -1DC to all rolls
Demonic Primacy: -2DC to all social rolls
All Things Betray: -3DC to all Perception rolls

Mind-Hand Manipulation: Lift and move people and objects within line of sight + ranged attack.

Hellscry Chakra: Awareness of CoDs. See auras of CoDs.
Steelskin: Roll Willpower + Without Honor 2 at DC 7(8 - BSM 1)
VLE: Highest of Strength, Charisma or Stamina to soak. Minimum 4


STATUS
Combat speed: x6 base speed or x20 if we spend 1m for 4 combat turns
Initiative: (Roll d10 + Dexterity 4 + Wits 3 + Perception 3(ATB) + Demonic Guide 2) x Windborn Stride 2
Soak: Base stamina 3 + Ebon Scales 1 + Steelskin + VLE

Health: 11/11
Willpower 7/9 wp
Essence 9/15m
All buffs up except Melee Excellency.
9/15m Essence
7/9 WP
Red Sky at Midnight​
21th of November 2006 A.D.
Lost 5 Essence and 1 WP -> Now at 9/15 Essence and 7/9 Willpower
+4 Stamina Gained from Steel Skin
Correctly noted here.


Melee Excellency activation isnt noted.
Or maybe isnt used????
Not sure


[X] Go into Shintai
-[X] "Pretender? Godling?" Your laugh is dark and throaty. And as you laugh, your voice transforms, becoming something altogether inhuman, the sound of brass twisted upon itself into a shrieking melody of tortured metal, underpinned by the howling of a distant, merciless arctic wind that somehow easily drowns out the rushing air swirling around the ruptured jet cabin that has become your latest battlefield. The laughter ceases abruptly, your surroundings tremble as if reality strains to contain your presence, and then you are more.
Shintai activation.
-2m of Essence, -2WP

Current total 7/15m, 5/9WP
Lose 1 Essence -> Now at 8/15 (Melee Excelency)
-1m Essence

6/15m Essence, 5/9WP
Molly Parry spends 1WP for an autosux

6/15m Essence, 4/9WP


If we now regen 2m, our total will be:
8/15 Essence
4/9WP
 
All leaving him alive does is declare open season on Molly's friends and family. All the minor players will see an easy exploit against us they can use without consequences. The real enemies Demons and outsiders don't care a bit about using them against Molly, no matter the consequences.

But the low and mid levels players like BS will take this as what it is, an easy exploitable weakness, they can use to manipulate a big player, without suffering certain death like all the other big players would do to them.

I'm gonna say I don't specifically see this as a problem. A lot of Molly's enemies are the type of people who'd want to target her loved ones anyways. Ie I don't see Nicomedus wanting to target the Carpenters more. And BS definitely likes killing for the sake of it. All this adds is a potential reason to actually keep hostages alive vs just killing them like you normally would. Might it incentivize people to target her friends who otherwise wouldn't have? Maybe, but I think most of the major threats were going to do it already. See Eiko and the Jade Dogs.
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[X] Leave the head, would you? I might need a new mantlepiece
 
[X] Murder is Meat the duchess, and let Broken Seeker try to betray US, instead of the other way around.

I know it's too late to have a chance, but still.
 
Something interesting here. Arianna has apparently fed on a god, but she's much younger than the Red Court, which suggests the Red King kept the pantheon he defeated around afterwards for his favoured to sip from.
Eh not really I'm fairly sure the pantheon existed while they were first around for a while. I also assume they ate them through trickery and when they weee vulnerable possibly when the white god made their power in the mortal world lesser.
 
Just had a scary thought; what if the Reds don't have an imprisoned god they use for special snacking purposes, but instead have a god addicted to their narcotic saliva who 'willingly' provides them with its blood in exchange for their next fix?

If that's the case, a would-be rescue attempt could end up going FUBAR because of an uncooperative or even actively hostile subject.
 
Just had a scary thought; what if the Reds don't have an imprisoned god they use for special snacking purposes, but instead have a god addicted to their narcotic saliva who 'willingly' provides them with its blood in exchange for their next fix?

If that's the case, a would-be rescue attempt could end up going FUBAR because of an uncooperative or even actively hostile subject.
What I'm hearing is "What if the Reds want to give us a god who likes Mercy In Servitude?"
 
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