Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Is defending the mortals a good idea?

Right now they're probably the furthest thing from the reds' minds, but if we draw attention to them and highlight that we care about their safety then they might become targets themselves. I don't think we can feasibly defend them if it the reds start to think they need control of at least one to survive.

Ortega has demonstrated herself to be fairly perceptive so far, so it's worth considering it as a serious possibility.

The best way to save them is probably to kill the vamps as quickly as possible.

[X] Yog
 
Right now they're probably the furthest thing from the reds' minds, but if we draw attention to them and highlight that we care about their safety then they might become targets themselves. I don't think we can feasibly defend them if it the reds start to think they need control of at least one to survive.
Even if we didn't care about their safety, denying the Reds easy access to more blood points would probably be worth doing.
 
Looking at this fight makes me really doubt Broken Seeker would have been able to manage this on his own. No wonder he was so eager to hunt Arianna she seems to be a much better meal than Dresden.
 
Too bad he won't be having either if Molly has anything to say about it.
Currently it is looking like Broken Seeker is going to finish killing the rest of the vamps before we finish wearing her down unless she has less blood points then I expect. Never thought that we might actually have to invest in getting a charm for more killing power. I figured ~10 aggravated damage would be enough for the entire quest.
 
Currently it is looking like Broken Seeker is going to finish killing the rest of the vamps before we finish wearing her down unless she has less blood points then I expect. Never thought that we might actually have to invest in getting a charm for more killing power. I figured ~10 aggravated damage would be enough for the entire quest.
Once she runs low on blood she'll go down fast and hard though.

Spending it on multi-action, defence and bloodmagic at once is draining even as a Methuselah, nevermind a mere Elder.
 
Once she runs low on blood she'll go down fast and hard though.

Spending it on multi-action, defence and bloodmagic at once is draining even as a Methuselah, nevermind a mere Elder.
The question is whether or not that happens before we don't have enough essence to afford to keep excellencies up. Not so much for killing her, but for not showing Broken Seeker that we can be mote-tapped.
 
Looking at this fight makes me really doubt Broken Seeker would have been able to manage this on his own. No wonder he was so eager to hunt Arianna she seems to be a much better meal than Dresden.
Nah. Unless Arianna has access to his banes, or someone with them? He could have done it just fine. Especially since he doesnt really care about the mortal minions of supernaturals, or civilians in general, as evidenced by Shagnasty killing like half of the Raith Manor's security forces in a couple minutes.

It just wouldnt have been an easy kill, and naagloshii behave like the supernatural version of African savannah predators; they like easy kills against injured or unaware prey, not standup fights against aware ones.
And they rather not risk injury, because they dont have anyone looking out for them besides themselves.

I mean, consider: He could have techbaned this plane in mid-flight, crashed it, and jumped Arianna as she made it out of the wreckage. He could have brought along some holy water in supersoakers. Or a couple sunlight potions.
He could have just infiltrated her home in daylight.

Lots of ways to pull it off. He just wouldnt have bust in the door openly like Molly did if she wasnt there.
The question is whether or not that happens before we don't have enough essence to afford to keep excellencies up. Not so much for killing her, but for not showing Broken Seeker that we can be mote-tapped.
Molly has spent 2m on Melee Excellencies; that's the equivalent of 8x combat rounds, or 24 seconds.
She has 8m in reserve, which would be another one minute thirty six seconds.
This fight isnt going to last another thirty seconds.

Besides, Seeker is going to assume we can be exhausted.
Everyone can.
 
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The question is whether or not that happens before we don't have enough essence to afford to keep excellencies up. Not so much for killing her, but for not showing Broken Seeker that we can be mote-tapped.
We need one Essence every 4 rounds.

She needs multiple bloodpoints every round.

We will last, unless she has near-antedeluvian reserves.
 
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  • [X] The Cities
    -[X] (Stunt) Crystal and metal seems to grow from the walls and bottom of the cabin, walls and artworks from the City of Fountains. At first glance it only seems made to restrict the movement of the vampires, but on closer look barriers are also forming over the mortals and half-mortals that are passed out from the pressure-changes or catatonic from Seeker's presence. There won't be any more free drinks tonight.
    [X] Wastes
    -[X] Stunt- The clouds around the plane change and super conducting posion fog fills the plane. It forms protective cocons around the mortals according to Molly's will. A storm of Lightning bolts strikes the plane and pases through the coulds.
    [X] The Cities
    -[X] Like a fast-growing vine, sensor circuitry spreads across the walls of the plane, forming the meditativ fractal patterns. The windows are replaced by advanced screens that double as cameras, and now the eyes of the machine spirit guiding the plane. Grav plates fade into existence under the floors, even as chairs warp and morph into advanced combat training mannequins. The scent of saffron and the rhythmic war prayers fill the air. All around you an environment that wouldn't be out of place in a mastery proving halls of a long-storied City of Swords monastery comes into existence.
    [x]A Proper Airplane
    -[X] [Stunt] All over the airplane subtlety shifts. More cushions. The Aluminium shifts to some other metal. The hole torn in the side is replaced with an airlock. Wings of Aetheryc Spite's voice suddenly comes over the new loudspeakers "Thank you for granting this ones unworthy wish Empress allow me to show you proper flying". And everything jerks at as once commercial plane start picks up speed. There is a loud boom. "We should reach sunlight in just a few minutes Empress"
    [x]A Proper Airplane
    -[X] [Stunt] All over the airplane subtlety shifts. More cushions. The Aluminium shifts to some other metal. The hole torn in the side is replaced with an airlock. Wings of Aetheryc Spite's voice suddenly comes over the new loudspeakers "Thank you for granting this ones unworthy wish Empress allow me to show you proper flying". And everything jerks at as once commercial plane start picks up speed. There is a loud boom. "We should reach sunlight in just a few minutes Empress"
    -[x][stunt] As the green sun emblems form on the walls you realize. This is Green Sun 1 the private jet that was designed exclusively for the Empress to comes explicit use. No expense was spare for a single cubic cm resulting in an air ship capable of fly in storms of iron right into the teeth of the wind without a scratch. In these calm sky it might as well be a hummingbird for how nimble it is every movement feels like an extension of your own body every sway of the deck playing into your over movement and against the movement of your enemies. "I have come up on the earth in so doing claimed dominion."
 
Even if we didn't care about their safety, denying the Reds easy access to more blood points would probably be worth doing.
That's true, but Ortega knows enough about Molly to make it likely she'll jump to the right conclusion. Even if they don't the reds could still decide now is the time to juice up because we're trying to cut them off.

The best defense for them right now is keeping the reds, focus and killing the vampires before they get put together to the point where they're looking for more blood.
 
That's true, but Ortega knows enough about Molly to make it likely she'll jump to the right conclusion. Even if they don't the reds could still decide now is the time to juice up because we're trying to cut them off.

The best defense for them right now is keeping the reds, focus and killing the vampires before they get put together to the point where they're looking for more blood.
Keep in mind all the lesser Reds are literally insane right now and only the Elders can think and strategize.
And they are busy being savaged by an ancient god-monster and a teenage god-monster.
 
Arc 9 Post 28: Substituting Reality
Substituting Reality

21th of November 2006 A.D.

Gleaming crystal, shinning brass seem to grow from the walls and bottom of the cabin, shapes artful and alien, dragons and leviathans, strange pentagonal life of the Wastes interposed with scenes of life and leisure, At first glance, if any would spare such a thing in the midst of pitch battle, only seems made to restrict the movement of the vampires, but on closer look barriers are also forming over the mortals and half-mortals that are passed out from the pressure-changes or catatonic from Seeker's presence. There won't be any more free drinks tonight.

No sooner had the thought crossed your mind that the vampire before you becomes a blur in her unnatural haste. Hunger moves her as sure as the moon moves the tides, she is burning up and the woman she has been planning to consume is now behind reinforced metal meant to hold against even augmented gurvel strength. How long they would last against one as old and mighty as Arianna you do not know, but you see the moment of distraction and you take it...

Gold meets brass in a shower of green flame, once, twice and where the brass slips past the guard the flesh below heals as fast as it is burned. But then as a chair comes flying at your chest from one of her frenzied servants you see your chance. Arianna isn't paying attention to it, why would she after all, flying furniture is as little a threat to her as it is to you? So she does not expect you to grab hold and use the momentum to swing around with your whole body, turning Usum's edge under her arm and carving into her wing membrane

Arianna Takes 2 Damage Now at 8/10

That did not seem to have hurt nearly as much as it should have. Some of the stolen blood sprays in your face your lips you feel it, you taste it without meaning to. It tastes of rich feasts, maize and honey, pulque, chili souse over tamales, it tastes like thunderstorms over black waters and owls screaming ill omen.

Regained 2 Essence -> Now at 6/15

So she wasn't lying about that bit after all after all/More worthy to die by your sword that I assumed Magnificent Sun Who Knows no rival, you and Usum think at the same time as the vampire matches impossible mind bending swiftness against all of your skill and comes out the better, vaulting backwards, half jump half glide.

Yet you too are swift if only in flight, you cut a straight path under the arc of her leap, batting asides one of the lesser vampires charging forth with a piece of table. The thin air of the depressurized cabin explodes into the roar of a sonic boom, from you or from her you cannot say, metal earthly and not rattling with the violence of it.

And then you are bracing against the protective wall, all several hundred pounds of flesh and brass and stone.

"Naughty, naughty." Alas with a shield in one hand and a sword in the other you cannot wag your finger, but from the sheer rage that contorts those hideous features it worked just the same.

Her attack breaks your guard about a third of the way though and you are pretty sure the remainder of it would have chewed though concrete easily and probably even the cell material behind you almost as well. Good thing you are made of all together tougher stuff. Your eyes meet... and both of you realize the same thing at the same time. You cannot be in more than one place at one time and there are a dozen humans here, assistants, accessories, snacks...

That is when Broken Seeker strikes, madness to think that he is doing it to save anyone, but he's seen his chance. Already a monstrous the naagloshii churns and grows, a mass of flesh and malice, the jaws that bite, the claws that catch, each limb he grasps and pries at a perfect guard, but still even for him she is just too fast.

Arianna takes 1 Wound -> Arianna Ortega is at 7/10

The mass of claws, teeth and death that is no longer even attempting to ape any natural form lurches towards the vampire with imposibile grace born of hunts uncounted, he catches her in a whirlwind of claw and fang though which only the gold of the bracers shines like the embers of a dying flame. No mortal eye could follow the contentions of monsters, pride against hate, vicious schemes decades, centuries in the making reduced to a contest of twisting flesh

Arianna takes 3 Wound -> Arianna Ortega is at 4/10 (Wounded -2 Dice)

As the vampire tumbles out of the melee she rips open one of the protective enclosures claws reaching for the man's throat, the sweet blood pumping though it.... she finds you. Swing off a chain that isn't there until you need it press the button for the mag fence, the shock is barely a distraction.

That's you need. One cut, diagonal 53.33 degree angle, shoulder to pelvis and the vampire is in two pieces

Arianna takes 5 Damage

Duchess Arianna Ortega Defeated


Yet one who has feasted upon the blood of gods is not so easily sent from this earth, there is still a spark of life, an ember of hate in those too-human-eyes, enough for the other monster in the room to flow in all his grotesque majesty towards her ready to claim that he has been hungering for.

What do you do?

[] A deal's a deal, even with a monster, let him eat

[] You are still pretty fresh, screw deals, you could kill more than one old monster today

[] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)

[] Write in


OOC: Good thing you guys raised those walls and won initiative though that was always an easy roll or else she would have entirely ran you out of actions before going to feed.
 
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I assume it would have come up by now, but just to check, @DragonParadox does the FCF not have anything equivalent to true sunlight?

If Molly summoned her throne/palace and sat on it would her area of control get lit up like the courts do when she does it there?

Tangentially, is lord of the land/our signature limited to physical things?

I ask because the signature just refers to features and LotL specifies natural phenomena. Endless suffering isn't treated any differently than the other features in the creation mechanics, and it's arguably a natural feature.

If that's the case could we use them in combination to do something like reincarnate anyone who dies in our Shintai range as we please, or perhaps have the wheel carry them "under" into our hell?

The last seems pretty on brand with the thousand hells theme, since they steal souls that die on territory they have influence on in the mortal world. I could see an incarnate Yama King standing on such a spot being able to damn almost anyone they kill with similar ease at least.
 
I assume it would have come up by now, but just to check, @DragonParadox does the FCF not have anything equivalent to true sunlight?

If Molly summoned her throne/palace and sat on it would her area of control get lit up like the courts do when she does it there?

Tangentially, is lord of the land/our signature limited to physical things?

I ask because the signature just refers to features and LotL specifies natural phenomena. Endless suffering isn't treated any differently than the other features in the creation mechanics, and it's arguably a natural feature.

If that's the case could we use them in combination to do something like reincarnate anyone who dies in our Shintai range as we please, or perhaps have the wheel carry them "under" into our hell?

The last seems pretty on brand with the thousand hells theme, since they steal souls that die on territory they have influence on in the mortal world. I could see an incarnate Yama King standing on such a spot being able to damn almost anyone they kill with similar ease at least.
  1. The only place true Sunlight can exist in your hell is directly above Molly's throne, make of that what you will
  2. Unfortunately not, your throne is a bit too metaphysically weighty to pull though, too much of Molly would be out
  3. It is limited to physical things yes, that seems to be the intent given that all the examples given for it are physical
 
I'm not one for reneging on a deal, but I do have some concern about what happens when Broken Seeker feasts on a Rampire whose power has been augmented by drinking the blood of a god.
 
Something interesting here. Arianna has apparently fed on a god, but she's much younger than the Red Court, which suggests the Red King kept the pantheon he defeated around afterwards for his favoured to sip from.
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)

@DragonParadox is the DC 6 before or the Signature discount?
 
I mean, is it really screwing the deal? We agreed to kill the target together. The target is now dead and furthermore he has stolen her metaphysical identity to avoid her death curse. Ether she is dead and the deal and it's protections are over or he is now the target and the deal says to kill him.

I am pretty sure there is a hole at LEAST big enough for a fairy to twist through. That's the gold standard for technically correct.
 
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] A deal's a deal, even with a monster, let him eat

[] You are still pretty fresh, screw deals, you could kill more than one old monster today

[] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
I know people want to kill BS, hell I want to kill him too, but there are a number of reasons we've gone over already about why that's a bad plan.

If nothing else "pretty fresh" and surrounded by hostile elders isn't a particularly good starting point for us either.

I'm not terribly concerned about him eating Ortega, though I'd like to steal whatever she stole from those gods, because he's been around for long enough to do this a lot. One more sorceress is unlikely to make a difference.

If we let him eat I think we can leverage it to "claim" the mortals, half reds, and remaining elder vamp bodies as our loot. They are less valuable than what's he's getting after all.

Once we have the crafting charm those elders are a minimum of high end prodigy tokens and may work for mid-tier splendors if DP is willing loosen some of the restrictions on reagent acquisition mechanism. That's plenty of profit.

We can come back to get him with a backpack full of items built out of spite for his entire existence. Sacred Protection from natural weapons and poison for a few people would really ruin his day even if one of them wasn't an exalt.
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
-[X] Leave the head, would you? I might need a new mantlepiece


At the very least we want the head as a focus. And I am not sure we want BS to get Arianna's powers, including whatever divinity she had.
 
[X] Shout at him that you are supposed to split the loot, he'll probably get a kick out of that (Charisma+Empathy Base DC 6)
 
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