Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Just saying that we can get a backpack of enriched uranium from our kingdom and it was an extreme example on purpose to show how black market connections are unable to compete.

[X]Yog
My point was that we don't actually have an established ruling equating the kingdom to infinite convenient physical resources. We'll probably get something from it, but right now you're asserting arbitrary functionality and then complaining about how it interacts with our actual resources.


She did already chose a patron those, and it's not us.

I'd have been willing to supply Murphy as an individual with the good stuff, but not Murphy the agent of the Library of Congress.
Let them equip her.
Murphy is still our ally, but point taken. In any case there are also complications that could make her unwilling anyway so we shouldn't just assume she'd take our offer.

That said, in a broader sense becoming the supplier for a highly classified government project to deploy magical cyborgs as secret agents sounds hilarious and profitable. We'd be our own insane internet conspiracy theory. :V

We certainly shouldn't do it for free, or without some legal understanding about our people's IP*, but we could accomplish multiple goals at once with some export grade civilian law enforcement cybernetics.


* with some outright fiendish enforcement clauses.
 
The power Molly bears is not in its utmost extreme evil, it does not want her to be selfish, or hateful, it does not specifically require sadism or malice. It is simply power, the power of lordship of domination, of the all seeing eye of the sage who can peer into the infinite darkness and laugh at what they find there. Moreover it seeks to fill the empty throne, it seeks the likeness of something unspeakably ancient and unspeakably powerful. It is the crown of the Demon Emperor, but it does not decide how that One is to rule, for how can a crown have opinions save those of the head it is placed on.

But the rest of the world is sadly lacking in that vision, the sort of spirits that will come when called by you to invest into a mortal are the desperate, the mad, the ambitions and the malcontent. Any Fomori you make will have have flaw, some physical, mental or even spiritual, flaws and derangement basically as the combination of alien essence, dark spirit and mortal host does not precisely lead to sunshine and roses. Now does that mean everyone has to have head tentacles unless you use Baptismal Agony Blessing and specifically say 'no physical changes'? No.

While the process is a chaotic and dangerous it is not malicious unless you choose to make it so you can converse with the demons and tell them that this is meant to be a rite of empowerment, or in the case of making your Hell Realm define how spirit and mortal flesh will merge inside your world soul.
Wanted to ask on this. Given Molly has her own world/hell with its own spirits and demons, how does this change? Say we get that Fomori charm from Kakuri. How would the quoted rule change?
 
Arc 8 Post 62: Dancing Along the Strands
Dancing Along the Strands

18th of November 2006 A.D.

The joke you made to Alec gave Izzy an idea what to call her phone once you explained what you intended to do, Tri, short for Tricorder, which the spirit had taken as a mark of honour. On the one hand he spoke the Queen's English, on the other he spoke Seeker Speech with an accept befitting of a Stack-dweller, that most prestigious, and stuffy ward of the City of Scrolls.

Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 6/15

Arranging a guided tour for your friends had been surprisingly easy, the Order of the Open Hearth would provide. They were the organizers of pilgrimages from the Five Cities so it had been a simple matter of summoning one of them for the task. Granted Keeper of Unparalleled Current Records, Kucr in nospeak took some getting used to. By far the most radically enhanced person you met he had replaced his ribs with an armoured drum that contained all his important internal organs, including the brain, his head having been instead given over to a a biomechanical sensor suit, from the trio of cybernetic eyes, to the gently swaying filaments on either side of his head which provided both hearing and mechano-reception though solid objects to the seta-inspired olfactory bulb at the top of his head.

When Izzy, still a little loopy from the tea, had started to ask 'what are you' before cutting off the rude question Tri had efficiently finished it for her. Instead of being upset though the guide had set off explaining how he had been a novelist, an artist, a father, a drill operator on the Wyrm-lines opening new tunnels. That was what had necessitated the enhancements. Most would have gone though renewal before taking a much safer job in the palace, but all his parts were rated for sixty years and more so he reasoned 'better safe than sorry'.

"Can't argue with caution, there are days I wished I slept in my armour," your father offers with a smile. You can tell he would have liked to greet him with a handshake, but he settled for a wave goodbye.

Kingdom or no kingdom, security guards or no security guards your dad was going to stick with you like glue.

After that it was high time you spoke to the Exarchs to get to know the people who are your representatives within Sanctuary in direct secular line. Does it still count as secular if I am in charge?

After putting that question in a box for later you turn to Harry and and ask cheerily: "So do you want to talk to some of the local thaumaturges and sorcerers. I bet they know some of the secrets of the universe you don't know and they're willing to trade you."

"The White Council frowns on trading that stuff," he replies, frowning, not like he is talking to someone unheard, more like he is arguing with himself.

"Since when did you care so much what they thought?" you ask doing your best not to sound like Usum when he's trying to sell you on some questionable idea. "Come on I doubt anything this strange is in the rules."

"Discovery of a new Nevernever Domain? That happens about once a century. The last one recorded was Shangri-La back in the 20s, nice place to live supposedly, but they closed all the Ways leading to Earth after World World Two. Can't say I blame them..." Harry shakes his head sadly. "Anyway there are rules for establishing diplomatic relations with the leadership if they seem friendly, but I'm not the guy for that."

Oh but I could be persuaded to grant many things, the thought comes to mind flirtatious smile and all. Alas dad is here so you will have to settle on. "As it happens you are already well on your way to securing an alliance for the White Council. I hear the Empress rather likes you.."

Instead of laughing, or even smiling at the joke his frown only deepens. "Careful Molly I know it's tempting to go with the flow when it seems to be going in your favour, but just because your Crown came from here and wearing it makes them think they want you for a leader does not mean you're going to like it. Did you ask how they feel about you going back?"

You open your mouth to retort, a little annoyed, but Usum beats you to it. He had been speaking to Ameli, but not so deeply as not to pay attention: "A serpent may bite her own tail, but she may not feast on shed skin alone lest she starve. She may linger here five days as the, one fifth of a moon-turn and then she must return to the outer world at least that long."

"When you say must...?"

"He means it the way one has to surface for air to keep from drowning," you answer, still feeling a little testy, not least because it was a big jump from the Jade Dogs to fve billion people. "Look Harry can you just trust me? Just go and look at the magic, it's going to be really useful in the long run."

"I trust you, I trust you to do the right thing, to do your best, but that stuff you were saying back there..."

"Don't translate," you hiss to Usum knowing what is coming.

"That can't be right. Think about it, this place has been around for longer than you've been alive, nevermind since you found that thing in Arctis Tor." He throws a guilty look at your dad before continuing. "Lasciel, the shadow in my head wanted me to believe that it was all real. God only knows why."

Instead of contradicting him, which you suspect Harry takes about the same way a mountain takes to being headbutted you tilt your head to thr side and ask: "So what if she was saying that because you know you would not trust her and wanted you to disbelieve? I mean she could have made a solid guess what your conclusion would have been otherwise right? What if the shadow was trying her hand at a bit of reverse psychology?"

"She's not as good at lying as she thinks she is," he mutters under his breath. "Michael back me up."

"I have been to the Nevernever before Harry, Amoracchius has never bid me set it down even for an instant, much less did he speak to me. I don't know what this place is," he knocks on the black glass table with a soft ting. "But I do know it is remarkable enough to merit that," comes the measured and for Harry doubtless disappointing reply.

"Alright, do your worst..."

Damn it why do all the good flirting lines show up now?

Who do you introduce Harry to in order to persuade him of the extraordinary nature of your-world soul?

[] Set Ameli talk to him about thaumaturgy and technology

[] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace

[] Hunts the Raging Beast, Hunt for short, Seta explorer, alchemist and natural philosopher who despide the name has spent most of the last hundred moon-turns in the Wastes not the Jungles

OOC: You have to pick one since they have wildly different disciplines, Harry would not get much trying to talk to all of them at once.
 
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Wanted to ask on this. Given Molly has her own world/hell with its own spirits and demons, how does this change? Say we get that Fomori charm from Kakuri. How would the quoted rule change?

That one would not since you are summoning inner darkness and making of it a demon, the Po awakened. The others would draw... more obedient spirits. Not necessarily nice, they are made of infernal essence, but less chaotic

Rolls
HPM
Molly to persuade
vs
Harry opposed... he is open to having his mind changed at least
 
If time can run at different rates in different parts of the Nevernever, one explanation is that this Hell did come into existence when Molly Exalted, or even in the moment she took the charm, but that time was massively accelerated compared to its passage on Earth until we entered it for the first time, at which point the clocks synced.

You don't actually need acausality as this world wasn't in contact with any other.
 
[JK] Things never come at the right time. They must be embraced regardless. Flirt with Harry.
- [JK] This is the most important roll of the quest. Use social excellencies.
 
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Can we just raise our hand and call down a storm, or shift the earth?

Lord of the Land should be a good proof that this is our realm in more than the legal sense.
 
[x] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace

By the lore the people did have mathematical proof that they where in a state of temporal none existence. Now those reading will show they actually do exist.
 
So, like I guessed, denial. Like, denial, denial, denial. Also, I don't think Lash wanted Harry to disbelief. I think (know) Lash botched badly. I believe she is trying to defect / curry favor
 
[X] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace
-[x] As as final thinkpiece for Harry, show of Lord of the Land
-[x] Without a further word you raise your left and the endless storm descents in a funnel above you, until a bolt of lightning strikes your outstreched hand and meanders slowly over your armor, making the runes glow blue for a moment before they fade again. "Still sure this isn't my realm?"
 
[X] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace
 
Why are we wasting time convincing harry. He is a fucking idiot and stupid beisdes. Lets focus on more important things.
 
[X] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace

I suspect this guy is well accustomed to stubborn youngsters and existential questions.
 
[X] Hunts the Raging Beast, Hunt for short, Seta explorer, alchemist and natural philosopher who despide the name has spent most of the last hundred moon-turns in the Wastes not the Jungles
 
[X] Hunts the Raging Beast, Hunt for short, Seta explorer, alchemist and natural philosopher who despide the name has spent most of the last hundred moon-turns in the Wastes not the Jungles
 
[X] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace
-[X] "Thou shalt not swim against thr currents of time", Harry. If acausal magic wasn't possible, there would be no reason to prohibit it.

The knowledge of the Covenant of the Empress-to-Be are going to blow Harry's mind. And remind him that "thou shalt not swim against the currents of time" is a Law for a reason. If acausal events weren't possible, there would be no need to make a law about that.
 
I think we should drop it for now and use the fact that our magi tech doesn't melt at first dawn as proof instead of trying to convince him from within.
 
[X] Ascendant Eye of Silver Peace, Aesp, the eldest sorcerer and spirit binder in the palace
-[X] "Thou shalt not swim against thr currents of time", Harry. If acausal magic wasn't possible, there would be no reason to prohibit it.
 
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