Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1)CAN veils hide Molly's magic signature?
I mean, I recall they could not hide the naagloshii's magic signature in Turn Coat; they did obscure his precise location well enough that he couldnt be targeted, but you could feel his presence in the area.

And I suspect E3 Molly probably has a bigger magical presence than Broken Seeker does.

Probably not well, but she only needs to be out of water for the single turn it takes her to proc HMP.
 
I wonder if Harry could bribe one of the Wild Fae to deliver Molly into the van via a thimble of water? Could Harry veil it, too?
Thats a naagloshii and his coven of skinwalkers. They were explicitly eating spirits to bulk up.
I seriously doubt you can pay one of the Little Folk enough to insert itself into that sort of company.
Toot-toot only did it out of personal loyalty in Turn Coat, no orders.

But yeah, Molly needs to buy herself some realspace spies to support her cyberspace spies.
Probably not well, but she only needs to be out of water for the single turn it takes her to proc HMP.
Fair enough.
Intel first though; Molly's second deadliest weapon is her tongue after all.

Do we really care about the masquerade??? Also we could make the devil to throw the car against a fallen building or some place without people and cameras and use the alchemy smoke to make people think that all Magic they saw was an ilusión due to some drugs in it
Given the amount of effort we've seen our enemies, and the enemies of Humanity go to in order to break it?
Yes, we really do.
 
VOTE
[X] Answer the phone the next time it calls, get some answers as to what Broken Seeker wants before engaging, maybe you can shake him up
-[X]Give Harry some of your hair to track you, just in case
-[X]Have Clippy pull up a map of the local electrical substations for Chicago, find the one for the local district, fly over and HMP a key transformer: 1m


Intel never hurts.
 
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Even a bit of blackmail could tip the scales a bit, give us an angle to work.
They've been isolated in this little murder cult for years. I doubt they're connected enough to society as a whole for blackmail to really work. Like so what if they had gambling debts or a drug problem beforehand?

four of the others are in wolf form
Four wolves? holy shit how it anyone breathing. The wolves would likely have to lie on top of each other in a typical van's backspace even without accounting for the unconscious humans. The birds better be chickadees if they want to be able to fly around this space. Legit I think we could have the van drive off a bridge with Izzy n Co being cushioned from how stuffed the back of the van is.

Like here's a wolf (potentially dog/wolf crossbred so actual wolf could be even bigger) comparison for scale.
 
They've been isolated in this little murder cult for years. I doubt they're connected enough to society as a whole for blackmail to really work. Like so what if they had gambling debts or a drug problem beforehand?


Four wolves? holy shit how it anyone breathing. The wolves would likely have to lie on top of each other in a typical van's backspace even without accounting for the unconscious humans. The birds better be chickadees if they want to be able to fly around this space. Legit I think we could have the van drive off a bridge with Izzy n Co being cushioned from how stuffed the back of the van is.

Like here's a wolf (potentially dog/wolf crossbred so actual wolf could be even bigger) comparison for scale.

The shape is more dog than wolf so considerably smaller than that (they have some control over their stolen shapes) and Broken Seeker does not care about comfort at the moment, he cares about having his servants with him to serve as a guard/distraction.
 
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They've been isolated in this little murder cult for years. I doubt they're connected enough to society as a whole for blackmail to really work. Like so what if they had gambling debts or a drug problem beforehand?


Four wolves? holy shit how it anyone breathing. The wolves would likely have to lie on top of each other in a typical van's backspace even without accounting for the unconscious humans. The birds better be chickadees if they want to be able to fly around this space. Legit I think we could have the van drive off a bridge with Izzy n Co being cushioned from how stuffed the back of the van is.

Like here's a wolf (potentially dog/wolf crossbred so actual wolf could be even bigger) comparison for scale.
That husky is looking like it is seriously reconsidering it's life choices.
 
They've been isolated in this little murder cult for years. I doubt they're connected enough to society as a whole for blackmail to really work. Like so what if they had gambling debts or a drug problem beforehand?


Four wolves? holy shit how it anyone breathing. The wolves would likely have to lie on top of each other in a typical van's backspace even without accounting for the unconscious humans. The birds better be chickadees if they want to be able to fly around this space. Legit I think we could have the van drive off a bridge with Izzy n Co being cushioned from how stuffed the back of the van is.

Like here's a wolf (potentially dog/wolf crossbred so actual wolf could be even bigger) comparison for scale.
Wolves exist in various sizes.
The biggest with about 80 Kilogramm (still not that much compared to a human), to less than 20 kilogramm.
 
[X] Usum's plan, get line of sight on the van, put a spirit in it and make it stop working to get them off their loop
-[X] Use Harry's veil as a crown focus for a question "How can this be improved to hide magical emanations from the senses of a naagloshii known as Broken Seeker"
--[X] Use Occult Excellency to better explain the results to Harry
 
Usum's suggestion relies on Molly being great at sneaking against supernatural opposition.
But Molly has Stealth 0, and its not a Key Ability either, so she'd be rolling Dex 4 + Stealth 0 + Without Honor 2.
Not good enough.
Unless she resorted to Malfean stealth..

How about combining both things, like for instance putting Cyberdevils in a couple other parked cars in order to stage a car crash ahead of the van, if it can cause an explosion and fire even better, and use that as a distraction while shutting down the van and moving on them from behind?
 
Yeah, but you can easily get 6 people around that weight in the back of a big van.
Plus a bunch of birds and whatever the Naagloshii is wearing.
Pity we don't have on hand some flashbangs and tear gas that we can MHM into the van and in their faces. Murphy might have been able to get some but we don't have time for that.
On the other hand, criminals might respond faster. Do we have enough of a relationship with Marcone and his bodyguard to ask for a favor, some equipment and men that can be used for a distracion or crowd control?
 
Thats a naagloshii and his coven of skinwalkers. They were explicitly eating spirits to bulk up.
I seriously doubt you can pay one of the Little Folk enough to insert itself into that sort of company.
Toot-toot only did it out of personal loyalty in Turn Coat, no orders.

But yeah, Molly needs to buy herself some realspace spies to support her cyberspace spies.
Alternatively, Harry sets up a veil and circle in the van's path with the only purpose of hiding our aura and his presence, then when it gets close he telekinetically launches us through the windshield while we chill out in a heavy glass bottle, maybe with a hastily fashioned steel penetrator on the front to aid in piercing the glass. We rematerialize as the flash-bang goes off, then rescue our friends.
Pity we don't have on hand some flashbangs and tear gas that we can MHM into the van and in their faces. Murphy might have been able to get some but we don't have time for that.
On the other hand, criminals might respond faster. Do we have enough of a relationship with Marcone and his bodyguard to ask for a favor, some equipment and men that can be used for a distracion or crowd control?
There's a good chance we have a couple of those leftover from the last time we used them. @DragonParadox?
 
They've been isolated in this little murder cult for years. I doubt they're connected enough to society as a whole for blackmail to really work. Like so what if they had gambling debts or a drug problem beforehand?
The goal was to target the Naagloshi without burning it as a focus.

It's connections are the only ones that really matter for our purposes.
 
I think the plan should be - we stop the car via a cyberdevil. As soon as the doors are open, we yank Izzy and Alec out using MHM. Then either Harry or Black Rider or some other car gets away with them. Meanwhile Molly (in Shintai) and Michael take on the opposition.
 
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